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solution: default menu bar view when you’re using your Mac regularly, and then when you move your mouse up to the menu bar, it expands.
Already an option for the dock, the new notch menu bar will be no different
Is this a reasonable expectation from the same company that hasn’t let you configure to see the battery percentage of your phone at all times for the past 4 years now?
 
By including a notch on top, the rounded corners of screen do not interfere with Menubar,
there will be a black background there with some info (not Menubar), so you won't even notice it.

The actual usable area below it will be 16:10, without any round corners (bottom corners won't be round either)
 
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By including a notch on top, the rounded corners of screen do not interfere with Menubar,
there will be a black background there with some info (not Menubar), so you won't even notice it.

The actual usable area below it will be 16:10, without any round corners (bottom corners won't be round either)
Since when are MBP users concerned about slightly more pixels? My retina MBP allows 5 different resolutions.

Also is there any product outside Apple iPhones that use a notch? The reason I ask is that usually is associated with very compact displays, not something way larger like a laptop.
 
Is this a reasonable expectation from the same company that hasn’t let you configure to see the battery percentage of your phone at all times for the past 4 years now?
The obvious difference is that seeing the battery percentage in the status bar would make some users happy but isn't critical - cutting off menu bar items would definitely inhibit a lot of people's daily workflow.
 
Since when are MBP users concerned about slightly more pixels?

Currently on my 13" I'm missing some of my Menubar icons on many apps, because there is just not enough space to show them all,

For example the LittleSnitch menubar icon (network monitor), or VPN connection time, etc.

If the date and time are moved to the higher area, I'll see them all the time.

Edit: Bartender was great when it was v3, the new v4 is awful so I just don't use it.
 
Currently on my 13" I'm missing some of my Menubar icons on many apps, because there is just not enough space to show them all,

For example the LittleSnitch menubar icon (network monitor), or VPN connection time, etc.

If the date and time are moved to the higher area, I'll see them all the time.
So if they come out with a 14" that supports x2 retina resolutions would that help more than a notch? Thats the rumors. :)

 
To those weirdly against the idea of a notch, if it is a full edge to edge display with no bezel, where would you want the webcam to be placed?
In a pop-up module hidden under one of the function keys?

Yay nostril-cam! Combined with the FaceTime silent eyeball realignment feature, it’ll look like Apple users really are looking down their noses at everyone else.
 
Is this a reasonable expectation from the same company that hasn’t let you configure to see the battery percentage of your phone at all times for the past 4 years now?
Of course it is. The battery percentage isn’t necessary, meanwhile having all of your final cut, logic, or Photoshop options available is.
I could easily see them doing this, there are already several menus I could see not being shown when your mouse is nowhere near the menu bar.
For example, do we really always need the “help” menu visible in every single application every time we’re using it? Of course not, only show that when the mouse is up in the menu bar.
Likewise in the other side, do I really always need the control center, spotlight and notification center icons visible? No, they can disappear until I move my mouse up there, and then expand to show more menus.
 
This isn't done by me, but I believe this is exactly what it will be like.

Credit to actual post.


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The notch will blend in with the menubar. Except there is not menubar displayed all the time on fullscreen apps. The design flaw has the potential to overshadow all that is good from the Apple event.
 
A possible notch is the only thing I’m concerned about (and upgrade prices). But if Apple works it out perfectly, maybe it won’t be an issue.

I’m already really happy with all the ports and expansion coming back (wondering if they’ll retain the headphone jack though).
 
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Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t get what confirms this to be a notch. Couldn’t this just be a module hidden in the bezel?
Did you miss this entire paragraph that's been mentioned is several articles

"Last month, in the macOS Monterey beta, MacRumors discovered potential display resolutions of 3024x1964 and 3456x2234 for the rumored 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro, respectively. When subtracting 74 pixels from the height of both, the resulting 3024x1890 and 3456x2160 resolutions work out to an aspect ratio of 16:10. All of Apple's current MacBooks feature a 16:10 aspect ratio, leading to speculation that the extra 74 pixels could be for a notch."

The webacam & sensors are going to be a "notch" in the menu bar which will be extra screen on top of the regular 16:10.
 
The notch will blend in with the menubar. Except there is not menubar displayed all the time on fullscreen apps. The design flaw has the potential to overshadow all that is good from the Apple event.
In Monterey, there’s an option to keep the menu bar in fullscreen mode, and when you do this it turns dark
 
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I'd think a notch would be more probable on a macbook - there's probably a bit more emphasis on making a macbook only as wide as necessary for a full-size keyboard. Maybe Macbook Pro could have borders like an iPad Pro?
 
Before people freak out again, I want to make sure to post this.
The notch is *not* A subtraction from the current screen.
The idea is, the menu bar would be pushed upward, up where the border currently is, and you will have more room beneath the notch for your current content.
Monterey allows for a black menu-bar to always be visible, even in fullscreen.
So that’s how it will be.
The notch *WILL NOT* Cut into your content, because the only thing that will be in the notch sides is the menu bar.
The regular 16/10 Display will be beneath the notch, and that is where all of your content will be.
For full screen video, there are already black bars on the current MacBook Pro. These will not be going anywhere, so again, the Notch will not cut into your 16/9content.
For photo editors, the menu bar will be shown in full screen apps, and your photo editing area will only be in the 16/10 Area beneath the notch, so when you zoom in your photos, it will not cut into your content.
And, if it bothers you that bad, I guarantee that within the first hour of this thing being available, a terminal command will be found to revert it back to the old MacBook Pro style, and the notch area will just turn black.
I think it's going to be distracting for many people to see a black object on the screen all day, like a piece of lint that can't be removed. It will interfere with the positioning of menu items, like the old centered Apple logo did in OS X betas. It won't even have Face ID. It's a disappointing design choice for a product that was shaping up to be a return to form after the Touch Bar fiasco.
 
Before people freak out again, I want to make sure to post this.
The notch is *not* A subtraction from the current screen.
The idea is, the menu bar would be pushed upward, up where the border currently is, and you will have more room beneath the notch for your current content.
Monterey allows for a black menu-bar to always be visible, even in fullscreen.
So that’s how it will be.
The notch *WILL NOT* Cut into your content, because the only thing that will be in the notch sides is the menu bar.
The regular 16/10 Display will be beneath the notch, and that is where all of your content will be.
For full screen video, there are already black bars on the current MacBook Pro. These will not be going anywhere, so again, the Notch will not cut into your 16/9content.
For photo editors, the menu bar will be shown in full screen apps, and your photo editing area will only be in the 16/10 Area beneath the notch, so when you zoom in your photos, it will not cut into your content.
And, if it bothers you that bad, I guarantee that within the first hour of this thing being available, a terminal command will be found to revert it back to the old MacBook Pro style, and the notch area will just turn black.

I don't know how/if they changed the OS to natively support this, but does mean a requisite update to all existing macOS software that displays notifications in the menu bar?

More importantly though, what problem(s) does this new design solve? I feel like Apple of late is just "solving" problems that don't even exist, first the touch bar and now this.
 
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To those weirdly against the idea of a notch, if it is a full edge to edge display with no bezel, where would you want the webcam to be placed?
I want the webcam to be above the screen, with no notch. And I don't see what's weird about that.
 
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