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Before people freak out again, I want to make sure to post this.
The notch is *not* A subtraction from the current screen.
The idea is, the menu bar would be pushed upward, up where the border currently is, and you will have more room beneath the notch for your current content.
Monterey allows for a black menu-bar to always be visible, even in fullscreen.
So that’s how it will be.
The notch *WILL NOT* Cut into your content, because the only thing that will be in the notch sides is the menu bar.
The regular 16/10 Display will be beneath the notch, and that is where all of your content will be.
For full screen video, there are already black bars on the current MacBook Pro. These will not be going anywhere, so again, the Notch will not cut into your 16/9content.
For photo editors, the menu bar will be shown in full screen apps, and your photo editing area will only be in the 16/10 Area beneath the notch, so when you zoom in your photos, it will not cut into your content.
And, if it bothers you that bad, I guarantee that within the first hour of this thing being available, a terminal command will be found to revert it back to the old MacBook Pro style, and the notch area will just turn black.
How about full-screen apps that have UI elements there where it makes the most sense?
 
I don't know how/if they changed the OS to natively support this, but does mean a requisite update to all existing macOS software that displays notifications in the menu bar?
of course not, just like how when the iPhone X came out it didn’t change how your iPhone 7 worked
 
Potentially leaked is a hilarious way of admitting that you didn’t notice it.
Or a hilariously damning way of saying this *really* doesn't matter to anyone until it is convenient or necessary.

If it actually mattered, why wasn't it an issue in April? It’s only an issue *now* when some “-gate” is necessary for a new Apple product.
 
If anyone else but apple came up with this design none of the defenders would feel the same way
And critics would likewise come up with some excuse to not take action or responsibility.

I mean, Apple consumers are supposed to oppose the prohibition on Adobe Flash on the iPhone and the exclusion of the Blu-ray drive in Macs, glued in batteries, pentalobe screws, removal of the headphone jack, then DEMAND USB charge blocks, among a few things.

But when any of this falls upon PC or android devices - all of a sudden it’s not the PC or Android consumers responsibility to boycott or otherwise harm the vendor or it’s all Apple’s fault because it would be to inconvenient to put bite behind their bark and not upgrade, or demand schematics for repairability, or buy a phone that does still include the headphone jack, or that *does* include a USB power block in the box or whatever.

Samsung and Google don't operate on the same margins that Apple does. Hard kill them critical issues. They are moveable.
 
Wouldn’t be surprised if Apple decided against Face ID because it’s inherently less secure in a laptop computer scenario.

eg. when implemented on a device that’s not always on your person, and instead may be, at times, situated on a desk when you’re elsewhere in the room temporarily - but still able to glimpse your face from across a distance.
In that scenario your Mac could get unlocked by your face from a little distance away, you turn and someone sitting alongside it could surreptitiously reach over and access it quickly.

Touch ID on the keyboard solves this, as you need to be in physical proximity to the Mac to unlock it.
 
eg. when implemented on a device that’s not always on your person, and instead may be, at times, situated on a desk when you’re elsewhere in the room temporarily - but still able to glimpse your face from across a distance..
Just checked with my phone and my face needs to be around a foot away from its screen before FaceID works. So its not going to authenticate from across the room even if you are looking at the screen.
 
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Just checked with my phone and my face needs to be around a foot away from its screen before FaceID works. So its not going to authenticate from across the room even if you are looking at the screen.
My concern would be while actively using the device -- e.g. something tries to make a payment with Apple Pay or uses `sudo` - if it automatically authenticates with Face ID, RIP. Ideally it'd still require a secondary confirmation (like the double button on iOS to confirm) to avoid situations like that. Current touch ID gets the requirement for it to be actively authenticated for free.

Would still love to see Face ID though. But then again, I'd love touch ID too so either works -- coming from a late 2013 MBP I sold a few months ago... 🤣
 
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My concern would be while actively using the device -- e.g. something tries to make a payment with Apple Pay or uses `sudo` - if it automatically authenticates with Face ID, RIP. Ideally it'd still require a secondary confirmation (like the double button on iOS to confirm) to avoid situations like that. Current touch ID gets the requirement for it to be actively authenticated for free.

Would still love to see Face ID though. But then again, I'd love touch ID too so either works -- coming from a late 2013 MBP I sold a few months ago... 🤣

You would have to be standing within reach of your Mac, and also looking at your Mac’s camera for FaceID to authenticate so how is someone going to sneak a purchase in?
 
Although the idea of a notch on a macbook is hilarious, I think I would be OK with it if:

- the screen has more vertical space than 16:10
- top menu bar removed, the remaining screen is 16:10
- the notch if 100% inside the area of the menu bar
- the camera in the notch is significantly better than a standard laptop camera
- unlike big sur, the top menu bar must remain black at all times
- mini led screen that gets pitch black around the notch

because in this case it's not the notch that cuts into the screen area, but it's the screen area that expands on what used to be the bezels. let's not forget that other manufacturers either put a ****** camera, a chin camera, or no camera, in order to reduce the bezels.
 
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It’s really, genuinely not a big deal. The menu bar items will wrap around it and we’ll otherwise get 74 more vertical pixels on the screen than we would without a notch.

Just wait until you guys figure out there’s a camera bump on the lid!
Or instead, we could have a MBP which is the equivalent of 74 pixels taller in total dimensions, and 74 pixels taller top bezel, and not have this weird as hell design, that annoys us and nags at us just for it's mere existence, constantly reminding us of the growing incompetence of the Apple executives sans-Steve. And no, don't try and give me this "but the M1 is under Tim's watch". No it is not, it is merely the A-series chip, which was under Steve's watch, modified slightly for the Mac. And similarly, the plan to move from Intel chips was also hatched way back when Steve was still there, but they didn't feel a need to move on it at the time, and only decided to execute it now due to the declining competence of the Intel executives (who have also now been completely wiped clean with a new CEO, who has replaced the rest too). Gah, I pull my hair out in frustration. This M1X 16" was looking like finally, finally, Apple had made a MBP worthy of replacing my 2015 15" rMBP, but maybe ***** not quite yet. Jaysus ***** Christ.
 
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This tidbit was originally missed because tech news sites primarily just use each other as sources for their stories. Round and round we go.
This titbit was missed because the idea is incomprehensibly stupid, and no one could possibly have picked it up, and even if they did, they would have been laughed out of existence. Just make the damn thing slightly taller, and with slightly wider top bezel, FFS. It won't make Jack difference to portability if it is.
 
Or instead, we could have a MBP which is the equivalent of 74 pixels taller in total dimensions, and 74 pixels taller top bezel, and not have this weird as hell design, that annoys us and nags at us just for it's mere existence, constantly reminding us of the growing incompetence of the Apple executives sans-Steve. And no, don't try and give me this "but the M1 is under Tim's watch". No it is not, it is merely the A-series chip, which was under Steve's watch, modified slightly for the Mac. And similarly, the plan to move from Intel chips was also hatched way back when Steve was still there, but they didn't feel a need to move on it at the time, and only decided to execute it now due to the declining competence of the Intel executives (who have also now been completely wiped clean with a new CEO, who has replaced the rest too). Gah, I pull my hair out in frustration. This M1X 16" was looking like finally, finally, Apple had made a MBP worthy of replacing my 2015 15" rMBP, but maybe ***** not quite yet. Jaysus ***** Christ.
Over-dramatic. It’s a small cutout with no detrimental impact to standard use. It will be okay.
 
I did not read all the comments but has anyone had the idea that the extra 74 pixels are the touch bar moving on to the screen which is a touch panel? One step towards combining iPads and MacBooks.
 
I did not read all the comments but has anyone had the idea that the extra 74 pixels are the touch bar moving on to the screen which is a touch panel? One step towards combining iPads and MacBooks.
That’s not going to happen. Zero indication of touch coming to the Mac, and Apple has continually stated that they don’t think it makes sense.
 
That’s not going to happen. Zero indication of touch coming to the Mac, and Apple has continually stated that they don’t think it makes sense.
I would say the design changes of Big Sur and the new tabs in the latest Safari are quite an indication.
I could imagine a touch bar just like on the iPad via sidecar.

But I might just try to find a way out of this whole idea of notchbook... It sounds awful.
 
Before people freak out again, I want to make sure to post this.
The notch is *not* A subtraction from the current screen.
The idea is, the menu bar would be pushed upward, up where the border currently is, and you will have more room beneath the notch for your current content.
Monterey allows for a black menu-bar to always be visible, even in fullscreen.
So that’s how it will be.
The notch *WILL NOT* Cut into your content, because the only thing that will be in the notch sides is the menu bar.
The regular 16/10 Display will be beneath the notch, and that is where all of your content will be.
For full screen video, there are already black bars on the current MacBook Pro. These will not be going anywhere, so again, the Notch will not cut into your 16/9content.
For photo editors, the menu bar will be shown in full screen apps, and your photo editing area will only be in the 16/10 Area beneath the notch, so when you zoom in your photos, it will not cut into your content.
And, if it bothers you that bad, I guarantee that within the first hour of this thing being available, a terminal command will be found to revert it back to the old MacBook Pro style, and the notch area will just turn black.
Yep that was my thoughts too. It actually means I get a menu bar and a full 16x10 screen. The best of both worlds.
 
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