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MacBook Pro With OLED Display Might Launch a Bit Later Than Expected
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The latest gen OLEDs have made some serious jumps though. Next LG 4th gen 4 stack oled are hitting 3000 nits. Our latest oled samsung panels are also close to that. While oled had trouble competing with LED Panels for a while and especially on full white could maye reach half the brightness, with the next gen they might get close to parity on full white but will smoke older LED generations in more mixed or darker content.
Micro LED has the same issues as OLED when displaying full white at those brigthness levels namely power efficiency. Not sure where they stand now but since development has been much fast on the oled side compared to LEDs, I am not sure LEDs lead is still big there, in "normal" picture content, I am certain they already lost.
hopefully there will never be an OLED macbook - ever
Why would you say "hopefully there will never be an OLED macbook - ever" ? Do you know how display tech will evolve? If you do, please let us know [seriously].
There’s nothing wrong with the current displays. This will be a spec-sheet-feature for FOMO.
The current display of the MBP mini led is fantastic, with minimal blooming. I have a 14" M3 Pro and I have an OLED M4 iPad Pro. PQ quality is marginally better on the oled ipad if I notice anything at all. Apple's implementation of mini led is truly almost OLED caliber on this size of a screen. For long term owners, I'm guessing the Mini LED might be more durable with less chance of burn in. That being said, I love OLED too. Although I did experience burn in when my LG OLED TV turned 4 years old a couple years back. Caused by the static images of Apple TV home screen. Thankfully, Costco extended warranty covered the repair. I'm sure latest gen OLEDS are less susceptible to the same burn in. I welcome the change, if Apple can keep pricing the same or less. But am also fine with the mini led's as well.
On the other hand, a MacBook Air with 120hz Mini LED or OLED, would be an instant buy for me.
On the other hand, a MacBook Air with 120hz Mini LED or OLED, would be an instant buy for me.
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In 2027 prepare for a new wave of professionals having brain fog issues, headache, eye strain and depression. And no, not because of politics, wars or something, but because they are about to find out about the hidden “power” of OLED displays in new MacBooks, aka constant flicker. Maybe it actually influences only 10%, but I don’t believe it and I think there are many more people who can’t look at those displays for too long
My M1 Max 16" with 64GB ram hasn't aged a day, with the exception of moderately shortened battery life. My "developer machine" M3 Pro 14" will be the one that gets upgraded in 2026 or 2027 if an OLED MBP arrives. That's the machine I use most and would love to have OLED picture quality for those times I'm watching movies on it. I hope for a slightly slimmer form factor that preserves the airflow and heat dissipation of current generations. Looking forward to this, Apple-- maybe the company can just skip the M5 entirely and wait for the M6 OLED models to be ready! 😄
Because it is a poor tech, that’s why.
PWM flicker, burnout, ghosting effects. Especially flicker. How come OLED displays are less comfortable to use than ancient CRT monitors? I don’t really get that, since you can see CRT flicker with naked eye, while OLED flickers too fast to see that but brain still notices this and signals “something is not right”
This pattern of delays from Apple is becoming a disturbing trend.
It will be interesting to see if maybe they come out with one with and one without OLED to give the buyer the option and maybe a price difference.
"Expected?"... based on a mere rumor? Expected by who? Did Apple make a commitment?
Disturbing? Why? Did Apple commit to a release date? Or was it merely someone's pure conjecture and therefore rumor? Why be disturbed over a mere rumor?
Your 2019 can make it! I am cheering for you and your 2019!
I am rocking a 2013 MBP that is still doing really, really nicely.
- I said on this very site years ago that I would replace it with an M3 Max when it launched. I never did.
- I said on this very site years ago that I would replace it with an M4 Max when it launched. I never did.
For what I need, my maxed out 2013 Intel MBP is still chugging along. It is no longer "magical" or fast. Likewise, it does not compare to the MX models. But it is solidly, consistently, and even still efficiently doing what it was created to do. And most important, it has that cool illuminated apple in the lid - I can't mothball that little piece of awesome.
However, I will replace the 2013 MBP with an M5 Max or or M6 Max. Depends on the specs. I care not for screens, just power, efficiency, and quality. I want my machines maxed out so they last 10 years. We'll see. 13 or 14 years on one MBP without any problems will be enough to deserve that it be retired with honors.
Yeah, well you know how difficult it is to put an OLED display in a laptop! I mean, by 2027, maybe Apple will be the first to do so!
That's the problem anymore...Apple doesn't commit to anything. Everything "is coming". Maybe this year, maybe next year maybe never. Meanwhile, the rest of the industry is shipping products with technology Apple is still rumoring it might use...some year. I think Apple customers want more than just a new chip every year.
This seems shocking advice: Skip a laptop series that hasn't even been announced yet?
Perhaps it isn't so much that Apple's products are delayed as much as people have been given unrealistic expectations.
Other than the iPhone and kinda the Apple Watch, none of Apple's products are on a definitive yearly cadence. All planning should assume that Mac and iPad's have around a 16 month cadence, and if it is shorter than that, then we're lucky the stars aligned.
Could we get two MBPs released in 2026, sure; but planning based on that seems foolish.
The M5 MBPs, and their miniLED screens will likely be perfectly fine laptops for most "pro" users.
It is entirely plausible that the M5 MBP will be out in Spring 2026, and the M6 MBP will be out in Summer 2027.
Maybe it will be sooner, but I wouldn't plan on it.
I understand waiting for the M6 machines is the optimal approach, however, keep in mind that M5 machines will be the last ones that will ship with an operating system that supports Rosetta 2, which is an awesome compatibility layer. I’m still not sure if I’m be okay with the loss of Rosetta 2 on macOS 27 so that’s why I’m contemplating getting the M5 Mac instead.
Do you think crossover and Heroic launchers will be affected by the loss of Rosetta 2? They said they were going to leave some features of Rosetta for games but it was a vague claim…
Yeah, others have done so already. BUT, some of those others have had complaints about burn-in and flicker. I have no idea, but maybe Apple was waiting for some better way to eliminate or significantly reduce those before releasing their own. Time will tell.... I will be eager to see some reviews when it comes out.Yeah, well you know how difficult it is to put an OLED display in a laptop! I mean, by 2027, maybe Apple will be the first to do so!