Do tell. What MBP do you have that has 9 ports so you can connect all that without connectors or a hub.
One hub is all you need. Then you can stop whining. Assuming that not whining is what you want to do...which is doubtful.
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Do tell. What MBP do you have that has 9 ports so you can connect all that without connectors or a hub.
One hub is all you need. Then you can stop whining. Assuming that not whining is what you want to do...which is doubtful.
Picked up a 15" with the 2.9, Radeon 460, 1TB hd around lunchtime today in Atlanta. Verified over the phone that at least a couple of the local stores close to my office had a few in stock, but wouldn't tell me what type or how many they had, so I took a short drive over there. Just so happened they had one that fit the bill. 
Created an unboxing video here in case anyone is interested...
Created an unboxing video here in case anyone is interested...
Yep. In a thread about availability you are wasting your time whining about having to buy a hub for your 9 required connections. Like any Apple laptop every had 9 ports. LOL.
Ever since news broke out that the iPhone 7 might drop the headphone jack, that seems to be about the only piece of news that has dominated the headlines, even though the iPhone 7 has so many new features worth acknowledging. Same with the Apple Pencil's charging method, and now the MacBook. It's tiresome and extremely detrimental as it all but kills any attempt at constructive debate, which is a real shame.
I don't think Apple is perfect, and Apple certainly doesn't need the likes of me to speak up for them. However, I feel that the overwhelming backlash Apple seems to be getting these days is way disproportionate. It's like a kid getting 95% for a test, and his parents keep harping on the 5 points he didn't get correct, instead of celebrating the 95 marks he did score.
I left Cnet and Engadget precisely to get away from this sort of crap. I like Macrumours. This place has taught me so much when I was a fledgling Mac user, and it's a shame to see it degenerate to such a sorry state.
I subscribe to AboveAvalon and following other Apple websites like Daringfireball and Stratechery, and the writers have been invaluable in letting me see Apple in a different light. I feel that more than anything else, what the critics here lack is perspective. They lack an understanding of how Apple works, and an appreciation for their design-led process. I am no expert in this field either, nor will I pretend to be, but I do feel the criticism here is extremely shallow and superficial and really does no justice to Apple or the good folks at Apple who make this all possible. Where's the critical thinking and deep analysis?
They waited 4 years to release this crap?
It looks like innovation is really gone since Jobs passed.
Schiller needs to go and buy a basketball team as well.
The great features:
1- YOu cannot connect you own iPhone-iPad. How lame is that?
2- you need 2 sets of Earphones. One for the Mac, on for the iPhone... really?
3- No expandability. RAM and SSD cannot be updated.
4- NO SD Card, No HDMI, no USB
5- THey removed the Mag-Safe
6- It is so called PRO, but limited to 16GB ram.
7- Way overpriced.
8- Reduced Battery life. IT is actually less than the previous model.
The largest Apple growing product category is adaptors.
How LAME is that??
It looks like innovation is really gone since Jobs passed.
Schiller needs to go and buy a basketball team as well.
The great features:
1- YOu cannot connect you own iPhone-iPad. How lame is that?
2- you need 2 sets of Earphones. One for the Mac, on for the iPhone... really?
3- No expandability. RAM and SSD cannot be updated.
4- NO SD Card, No HDMI, no USB
5- THey removed the Mag-Safe
6- It is so called PRO, but limited to 16GB ram.
7- Way overpriced.
8- Reduced Battery life. IT is actually less than the previous model.
The largest Apple growing product category is adaptors.
How LAME is that??
Last time I checked, there is a USB C to lightning cable available for sale.
Are you could use wireless headphones.
I am sure this feature will be missed-for a small group of people who actually bothered to physically upgrade their laptops . I know I won't.
In exchange, I get for USB C ports, which can be transformed into any port I want. That sounds way more versatile to me.
And in return, I gain a USB C port which can either be used for charging when I need to, or used as any other port I want when I am not charging my laptop.
Where you see the removal of features, I see the potential for a more seamless and streamlined way of working.
USB C is the future, and you can either continue to moan and groan and live in the past, or start thinking about how you can start making full use of them to your own benefit.
Which do you think will be a more productive use of your time?
Which is probably be more than enough for like 95% of customers out there.
Relative to what?
Battery life test have proven to be extremely inconsistent, and a MacBook Pro has actually managed to clock more than 13 hours on wireless web tests.
I would say that battery life is more or less comparable.
Less lame than people whining non-stop on these forums?
Picked up a baseline 15inch a few days ago, REALLY loving it so far! Running Ableton, GTA San Andreas, and a plethora of other apps without a hitch. My only concern is, how much faster would I be gliding along had I snagged the 2.9ghz i7 instead of the 2.6ghz?? Thanks for any replies. Cheers to another great release by Apple.
For your analogy to be accurate, we would have had to get 95% of what we wanted from the new hardware. Let's look at some of the things people have been asking for:
iPhone:
- wireless charging
- OLED display
- smaller bezel
- longer battery life
- fast charging
- more storage
- expandable storage
- waterproof
MBP
- touchscreen
- up to date processor (kaby lake)
- keep magsafe
- don't use MacBook keyboard
- 32GB RAM option
What we got:
iPhone:
+ water resistance (give em half a point)
+ bumping minimum storage to 32GB FINALLY
- no aux jack (gotta sell those beats headphones one way or another)
~ speakers are louder, I guess? Couldn't really tell when I used one next to my 6S
MBP
- NOTHING
- You now need to pay for/use adapters for everything while you wait a few years for USB-C devices
--- Price increase?!
~ weird touch bar developers have no reason to support
So, if we're being objective here and not using the word to mask brand loyalty, then it's more like the average Apple user got about 15% of what they wanted from the iPhone, and a big fat 0% of what they wanted from the new MBP, both of which actually lose features that are useful.
I'm not the average schmoe who buys the cheapest MacBook on sale at Best Buy. I'm an iOS developer with a half decade of professional experience as a senior level developer who likes to stay on the cutting edge. I own a top of the line 15" MPB 2015 and a 128GB iPhone 6S. I was chomping at the bit to upgrade, but even I am totally disgusted with this latest set of hardware releases. For my workflow, it is effectively a downgrade. These devices were engineered with profitability as a prioritizing user experience, and that's why I reject it.
Not disagreeing with your points, but my top asks for the new MBP was lighter/thinner.
People ask for all sorts of things all the time. We have people asking for macOS in iPads even. Doesn't mean Apple has to listen to all of them, nor is Apple obligated to meet all these demands simultaneously. The features will come when they are ready on Apple's terms, no sooner, no later.
Take for example the part about more storage in smartphones. There was nothing stopping people from buying the 64gb or 128gb models.
You can't see it this way.
Compare the iPhone 7 to the 6S+, not to an imaginary list of what people feel the iPhone ought to have. We get a plethora of new features, but people can only fixate on the absence of the headphone jack and nothing else.
Same with the Macbook Pro. Everything has been improved across the board, but people can only gripe about having to purchase a few dongles and the lack of a 32gb option which most people will never miss.
So what has changed? How is the current MBP any worse than the previous generation for the work you do? It's not as though previous models had a 32gb model available.
I guess for me, it helps that I have been slowly but surely migrating towards an ipad-centric workflow since 2012. Apple hasn't let me down in this regard. iOS 8 brought peer-to-peer airplay to the Apple TV, while the iPad Pro brings split-screen and the Apple Pencil support. As a teacher, these tools have helped me immensely in my daily lesson delivery. I don't feel pressured to upgrade my Macs (2012 MBA, 2011 iMac) anytime soon as I actually been using them less and less. My next Mac might actually be another iPad Pro, if this trend continues.
Who is asking for OS X on iPad? What, you really want to make the argument that we're just so in love with OS X, that we want it to replace the OS the propelled Apple to the top of the industry? Playing devil's advocate is overrated.
As for features people actually wanted, like wireless charging, why are Apple's terms so much later than everyone else's. The Palm Pre had this. The Palm freakin' Pre. Sorry, people aren't stupid enough to buy Apple's "we removed the headphone jack because we're moving into a wireless world" BS when they leave out the main wireless feature that's been around for half a decade.
Except cost? Maybe people don't like paying an extra $100-$200 for something that is already there in competing devices? Maybe not everyone has $300-$400 to slap down on top of a contract?
Why not? Because it bothers you? Too bad, it's not just how I see it - that's how it is.
Let's do that. What did we get in the new iPhone 7?
Base 32GB, which is the bare minimum of what is even remotely acceptable for a modern device.
Water resistance? Water proofing would be better, but it's a good step in the right direction.
What else? What is a noticeable, quality-of-life feature the iPhone 7 adds? What can a consumer tell by using the two devices side-by-side? Am I going to notice the wider gamut of reds or my apps starting up a tenth of a second faster? No, I won't. That adds nothing for me or anyone else. And again, horsepower shouldn't even be mentioned when they are so far behind the competition.
Yes, the headphone jack being removed is stupid, and no, it's not being exaggerated. It was a decision motivated purely by the desire to sell EarPods, which they've screwed up releasing anyway. I hate phrases like anti-consumer because people abuse them without understanding what they mean, but this is one time where it actually applies. You'd better own Apple stock if you're defending that nonsense.
Do you understand that this is a $3000 computer? Have you ever actually spent that much on a computer? Do you know how much power you can get for $3000 elsewhere, even in the laptop space? Have you ever run a iPhone 7+ simulator on your computer? Do you know how well it runs? Do you run Photoshop, Xcode, and a few dozen Safari tabs concurrently while profiling memory on a device? Do you frequently travel with a MacBook and plug it into monitors and USB devices?
Never mind that the new MBP actually performed worse on some graphic test metrics because it renders at a higher resolution then down samples to the actual screen. What definitive performance increases it does bring do not solve any of my problems. I don't give a **** about the stupid ****ing touch bar. That is trash. The entire screen should be touch sensitive. At the very least OS X and iOS should work together to allow you to use your iPhone/iPad for touchbar functionality. That would be a real feature that would have extensive value.
No, instead we got a last-gen processor, no extra RAM, not even the option, ancient screen technology, lost all ability to connect anything at all to the computer without an adapter including the iPhone, and got what? The stupid touchbar that very very few developers will even support, and we got all that with a price increase. You want us to thank Apple for that? You go buy it.
Okay, well there it is. You do only the most basic computer work, so why would you care or even understand everyone else's gripe? The answer is of course that you don't. I'm happy for you being able to get away with transferring a few files and sketching whatever on the screen, but guess what? I'm the guy who writes the software that lets you work on an iPad. To do my job efficiently, I need certain things. I'd like an Xcode that isn't constantly ****ing crashing. I'd like to carry as few peripherals with me as possible, because I need to connect things to do my job. I'd like more memory. I'd like expandable storage because unbelievably, some professionals use more than 512GB of disk space. I'd like for the keyboard not to suck, and I'd like to be able to accurately simulate the devices I'm writing for so that I don't need to have four different iPads and five different iPhones on hand. I haven't dealt with a product line this disconnected and rife with ******** since I was a Blackberry programmer. You and Apple had better start listening to people like me, or things are going to start getting a lot less "magical".
You develop for Apple for a living, and I am pretty sure you would have benefited from this arrangement (else you wouldn't still be in this line of work), so no need to go round acting like Apple owes you the world. Likewise, I buy apps that I like, and the developer profits from this. It's a mutually beneficial transaction, and neither of us owe each other any more beyond this point.
Yes, I use a many good iOS apps in my work, and I am grateful to the developers for making all this possible, but given a choice between forgoing an app and having to put up with an insufferable, entitled attitude, I will gladly kiss that app goodbye. There are plenty of other alternatives to go around.
If you don't want to develop for Apple because their Macs cost too much or you lack 32 gb of ram or have to cart around a few extra dongles, or whatever other reason you may have, then don't.
Go ahead. Make things less "magical" for me. I would like to see you do your worst.
It looks like you are Phil Schiller assistant or an Apple troll.
You are trying to excuse every bad design and flaw of the Macbook with pathetic excuses...
If you just got an iPhone 7 you need to get an adaptor to connect it to your own Macbook...
That tells you that the guy who designed this Macbook is a Moron....
You are trying to excuse every bad design and flaw of the Macbook with pathetic excuses...
If you just got an iPhone 7 you need to get an adaptor to connect it to your own Macbook...
That tells you that the guy who designed this Macbook is a Moron....
How is this different from any other product with new ports? It's not as though this is a new problem that didn't exist with the MacBook last year. Why are people complaining only now?
Then kiss your apps goodbye, fanboy. Apple does owe me. I'm the only reason they have about ten thousand devices in the US court system. My apps have made Apple almost a half million dollars in the App Store. All I ask for is a great development environment. It's why I originally chose them, but if I had to make that choice today, I don't think I could make the case for iOS over Android to clients. If I have to deal with a bunch of different screen sizes, and a half baked toolkit, I'd like to at least do it on a top of the line computer and a phone that isn't purposely gimped. The ONLY reason I'm even here today is because Android is such ******* spyware, I refuse to use it personally.
I used to see your ****** delusional attitude all the time. It was back when I was a Blackberry developer. Believe me when I say that from the lowest fanboy like yourself, all the way up to Tim Cook, Apple is reminding of those final years A LOT lately.
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People DID complain about the MacBook last year. They hated the lack of ports and the keyboard. Where were you?
I am pretty sure that amongst the complaints leveled at the MacBook, the inability to plug in your iPhone with the existing Lightning cable wasn't one of them. I guess now that the MacBook Pro has more ports and that criticism is no longer valid, I guess it was only a matter of time before they found something new to complain about.
And if Apple has made over half a million dollars, you have earned more than double that. Don't make yourself sound all holier than thou. You did it for the money, plain and simple. You have prospered, Apple has sold more hardware, your clients have gotten useful software, everyone has benefited in this partnership, and nobody owes anyone else anything more beyond what they have already paid.
If you feel Android offers a better development environment and can be more lucrative, leave by all means. Don't feel compelled to stay for my sake or anyone else's. I wish you all the best.
And if you want me to kiss those apps goodbye, I am prepared to. List the apps you make. Here and now. If I use those apps, I will delete them right away. If not, I promise to never download them ever. Because there is little which irritates me more than an arrogant app developer who thinks he is owed the world just because he has had a little success with some app out there.
You should better inform yourself.....
THis is the very first time that you cannot directly connect an iPhone-ipad to your own macbook.
Pathetic....!