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MacBook Pro Won't Wake from Sleep
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I am very pissed over this. I am using Tiger and I am STILL having the problem on a Merom core MBP 15". It will come back up sometimes, but rarely. If I shut it when the screen is black, it'll just stay on. I have no idea what is wrong with it and I've uninstalled the iStat widget, and I have done the sleep thing, but nothing works. I just installed the new efi firmware last night, and it seemed to make the problem worse.
If this isn't fixed, I'm installing windows on it and leaving it like that. I am slowly starting to hate OSX AND APPLE after coming from an iBook G4 that was PERFECT.
EDIT: Fix for me
sudo pmset -a lidwake 0
computer will only wake when you press space bar
I also set it so it has to ask for a password when it wakes.
It works great now. It's a little more annoying than just opening it, but if it's a fix, i'll do it.
If this isn't fixed, I'm installing windows on it and leaving it like that. I am slowly starting to hate OSX AND APPLE after coming from an iBook G4 that was PERFECT.
EDIT: Fix for me
sudo pmset -a lidwake 0
computer will only wake when you press space bar
I also set it so it has to ask for a password when it wakes.
It works great now. It's a little more annoying than just opening it, but if it's a fix, i'll do it.
I was contacted by an Apple level 2 tech that asked if I was still having the wake from sleep problem a few weeks ago. I have not had it recently so I have not been able to send the logs, but he emailed me a problem that you run after a wake from sleep problem and it emails them the logs. I guess they are working on it but I don't have the problem as much now so I can't send the logs to help.
I have the email still, I don't know if anyone that is currently having the lockup would want it.
- James
I have the email still, I don't know if anyone that is currently having the lockup would want it.
- James
me too--what to do?
I have a new MacBook Pro and am having this problem often. Is there a way to get to level 2 support? What do they call the problem so that I can refer to it?
Actually I note 2 separate problems....are they related and are they common (I am a new apple user).
1. The screen goes dark (no backlight) although i can see with intense reflected light that the computer is still running. The only way i can get out of this mode is reboot with power button... ALso, i note that it goes into this mode more when I am moving the computer and it is going to sleep...at least i think so. WHat do i do??
2. I put the computer into SLEEP mode every night by closing the cover. SOMETIMES in the morning when I open it I note that the computer has shut down and thus it re-starts rather than just waking from sleep. The power cord is plugged in.
What should i do?
thanks
Larry
I have a new MacBook Pro and am having this problem often. Is there a way to get to level 2 support? What do they call the problem so that I can refer to it?
Actually I note 2 separate problems....are they related and are they common (I am a new apple user).
1. The screen goes dark (no backlight) although i can see with intense reflected light that the computer is still running. The only way i can get out of this mode is reboot with power button... ALso, i note that it goes into this mode more when I am moving the computer and it is going to sleep...at least i think so. WHat do i do??
2. I put the computer into SLEEP mode every night by closing the cover. SOMETIMES in the morning when I open it I note that the computer has shut down and thus it re-starts rather than just waking from sleep. The power cord is plugged in.
What should i do?
thanks
Larry
Apple just replaced mine with a brand new penryn after 5 days trying to get a superdrive working. I'm sooo happy.
Continuing the topic...
I do not use a password so how would this apply to me??
I also have this problem in 10.5.3
Is Apple working to solve it? I have not noticed if it is related to screensaver but i will take notice from now on.
What about the 2nd problem i mentioned..... Has anyone seen that?
I do not use a password so how would this apply to me??
I also have this problem in 10.5.3
Is Apple working to solve it? I have not noticed if it is related to screensaver but i will take notice from now on.
What about the 2nd problem i mentioned..... Has anyone seen that?
Blink before moving
IF YOU PUT THE MACHINE TO SLEEP - EITHER THROUGH THE APPLE MENU OR BY CLOSING THE SCREEN - WAIT FOR THE FRONT LIGHT TO START BLINKING / PULSING BEFORE MOVING YOUR MACHINE.
Like most of you - I've been having this problem and came to the Forum looking for guidance. I couldn't find any that seemed to fit my problem. So I contacted a friend at Apple and got what I think is some very good information.
When you put the system to sleep - it goes through a process of saving the memory to disk. This was an intentional safe-guard in case you try to wake up your machine later only to have no more battery remaining. This process happens whether you manually put it to sleep or whether you just close the screen. It goes through that process either way.
So that's one variable.
Here's the other: the Mac has a shock detection. If you move the machine and trip the shock detection while it is dumping the memory to disk - the machine will not wake up.
If you're like me - you like to close the screen, pack up, and take off. So, if you're like me - you need to have a little patience.
IF YOU PUT THE MACHINE TO SLEEP - EITHER THROUGH THE APPLE MENU OR BY CLOSING THE SCREEN - WAIT FOR THE FRONT LIGHT TO START BLINKING / PULSING BEFORE MOVING YOUR MACHINE.
So be careful. Putting the system to sleep takes longer than you would expect (based on amount of memory). Mine takes up to 30 seconds. I can easily see how I would have tripped the shock detection in that timeframe.
Hope that helps.
IF YOU PUT THE MACHINE TO SLEEP - EITHER THROUGH THE APPLE MENU OR BY CLOSING THE SCREEN - WAIT FOR THE FRONT LIGHT TO START BLINKING / PULSING BEFORE MOVING YOUR MACHINE.Like most of you - I've been having this problem and came to the Forum looking for guidance. I couldn't find any that seemed to fit my problem. So I contacted a friend at Apple and got what I think is some very good information.
When you put the system to sleep - it goes through a process of saving the memory to disk. This was an intentional safe-guard in case you try to wake up your machine later only to have no more battery remaining. This process happens whether you manually put it to sleep or whether you just close the screen. It goes through that process either way.
So that's one variable.
Here's the other: the Mac has a shock detection. If you move the machine and trip the shock detection while it is dumping the memory to disk - the machine will not wake up.
If you're like me - you like to close the screen, pack up, and take off. So, if you're like me - you need to have a little patience.
IF YOU PUT THE MACHINE TO SLEEP - EITHER THROUGH THE APPLE MENU OR BY CLOSING THE SCREEN - WAIT FOR THE FRONT LIGHT TO START BLINKING / PULSING BEFORE MOVING YOUR MACHINE.So be careful. Putting the system to sleep takes longer than you would expect (based on amount of memory). Mine takes up to 30 seconds. I can easily see how I would have tripped the shock detection in that timeframe.
Hope that helps.
dark screen?
Thank you very much for this informative reply. I think it is absolutely correct (based upon my observations as well), HOWEVER, it only solves part-2 of my 2 part post (pasted below).
Do you have any ideas what is going on in part 1??
THanks
Larry
[see below]
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I have a new MacBook Pro and am having this problem often. Is there a way to get to level 2 support? What do they call the problem so that I can refer to it?
Actually I note 2 separate problems....are they related and are they common (I am a new apple user).
1. The screen goes dark (no backlight) although i can see with intense reflected light that the computer is still running. The only way i can get out of this mode is reboot with power button... ALso, i note that it goes into this mode more when I am moving the computer and it is going to sleep...at least i think so. WHat do i do??
2. I put the computer into SLEEP mode every night by closing the cover. SOMETIMES in the morning when I open it I note that the computer has shut down and thus it re-starts rather than just waking from sleep. The power cord is plugged in.
What should i do?
thanks
Larry
Like most of you - I've been having this problem and came to the Forum looking for guidance. I couldn't find any that seemed to fit my problem. So I contacted a friend at Apple and got what I think is some very good information.
When you put the system to sleep - it goes through a process of saving the memory to disk. This was an intentional safe-guard in case you try to wake up your machine later only to have no more battery remaining. This process happens whether you manually put it to sleep or whether you just close the screen. It goes through that process either way.
So that's one variable.
Here's the other: the Mac has a shock detection. If you move the machine and trip the shock detection while it is dumping the memory to disk - the machine will not wake up.
If you're like me - you like to close the screen, pack up, and take off. So, if you're like me - you need to have a little patience.
So be careful. Putting the system to sleep takes longer than you would expect (based on amount of memory). Mine takes up to 30 seconds. I can easily see how I would have tripped the shock detection in that timeframe.
Hope that helps.
Thank you very much for this informative reply. I think it is absolutely correct (based upon my observations as well), HOWEVER, it only solves part-2 of my 2 part post (pasted below).
Do you have any ideas what is going on in part 1??
THanks
Larry
[see below]
************************
I have a new MacBook Pro and am having this problem often. Is there a way to get to level 2 support? What do they call the problem so that I can refer to it?
Actually I note 2 separate problems....are they related and are they common (I am a new apple user).
1. The screen goes dark (no backlight) although i can see with intense reflected light that the computer is still running. The only way i can get out of this mode is reboot with power button... ALso, i note that it goes into this mode more when I am moving the computer and it is going to sleep...at least i think so. WHat do i do??
2. I put the computer into SLEEP mode every night by closing the cover. SOMETIMES in the morning when I open it I note that the computer has shut down and thus it re-starts rather than just waking from sleep. The power cord is plugged in.
What should i do?
thanks
Larry
Are you working in the dark?
Larry,
I hadn't been having the first problem you described - but I followed a hunch and was able to replicate your problem ... I had to get a halogen flashlight in order to find my pointer again to correct things. I understand your frustration. What a hassle.
Anyway - In the System Preferences - under the Display section - you'll see an option to "Automatically adjust brightness as ambient light changes." I think this is buggy. If you drag the Brightness bar left and right - you'll probably notice that as you take the bar all the way to the left - the screen will go from about 50% brightness - immediately to the dark screen.
I'd recommend that you de-select the automatically adjust brightness to see if that helps.
I tend to keep my office lights on while I work. But I used to love working in the dark - and that's exactly the ambient lighting where the automatic system would take the screen to its least bright position - and in this case the least bright setting must be a bug.
Hope that helps.
-Matt
Larry,
I hadn't been having the first problem you described - but I followed a hunch and was able to replicate your problem ... I had to get a halogen flashlight in order to find my pointer again to correct things. I understand your frustration. What a hassle.
Anyway - In the System Preferences - under the Display section - you'll see an option to "Automatically adjust brightness as ambient light changes." I think this is buggy. If you drag the Brightness bar left and right - you'll probably notice that as you take the bar all the way to the left - the screen will go from about 50% brightness - immediately to the dark screen.
I'd recommend that you de-select the automatically adjust brightness to see if that helps.
I tend to keep my office lights on while I work. But I used to love working in the dark - and that's exactly the ambient lighting where the automatic system would take the screen to its least bright position - and in this case the least bright setting must be a bug.
Hope that helps.
-Matt
Try this... I just found it randomly. So far it is wicked cool. Sleeps my computer in like a millisecond. I dont know if this will fix your problem. But it also does hibernate modes, and sleep/hibernate hybrids. It just adds a preference pane into your preferences.
I love it.
This WILL fix the problem though of having to wait forever for it to start sleeping. Instantaneously.
http://www.jinx.de/SmartSleep.html
I love it.
This WILL fix the problem though of having to wait forever for it to start sleeping. Instantaneously.
http://www.jinx.de/SmartSleep.html
My girlfried has this problem with hers but I never have it with mine. Good advice not to move your notebook while it is in the process of going to sleep. This is when your ram is being written to disc and you have the potential of loosing anything that is unsaved.
Battery power the culprit?
I've experienced the same issue of not waking from sleep. In retrospect, I do believe it may have something to do with the battery power getting too low while in sleep mode. There is a sleep mode where the contents of RAM are written to the hard drive prior to sleeping.
If you don't have it in this sleep mode and the battery dies while in sleep mode, aren't the contents of RAM lost? Therefore, the machine doesn't have a state to wake to?
Just some thoughts. I think that's what happened to my machine this evening.
I've experienced the same issue of not waking from sleep. In retrospect, I do believe it may have something to do with the battery power getting too low while in sleep mode. There is a sleep mode where the contents of RAM are written to the hard drive prior to sleeping.
If you don't have it in this sleep mode and the battery dies while in sleep mode, aren't the contents of RAM lost? Therefore, the machine doesn't have a state to wake to?
Just some thoughts. I think that's what happened to my machine this evening.
not my problem though. I've left it sleeping overnight connected to power and still won't wake up in the morning.
the answer
After about a year the logic board on my MacBook Pro 17" just burned out. Apple replaced it with 'version 2' of this board and since then waking up from sleep has been seemless as it always should have been.
I doubt they'd just replace it, but just FYI after trying literally everything before I now think it was a hardware problem to do with the logic board itself.
After about a year the logic board on my MacBook Pro 17" just burned out. Apple replaced it with 'version 2' of this board and since then waking up from sleep has been seemless as it always should have been.
I doubt they'd just replace it, but just FYI after trying literally everything before I now think it was a hardware problem to do with the logic board itself.
I'm had this problem today, Ieft the computer on w/ a screensaver and naturally the system eventually went to sleep w/ the lid open. Nothing would wake it so I had to do the power button reboot. Up until now its gone to sleep fine and everytime I open the lid it wakes up.
I had nothing plugged in except the magsafe & ethernet...am running iStat Pro. Also installed that ambrosia defcom globe screensaver which is really cool and that was on before the sleep issue so perhaps I need to get rid of that.
UPDATE: Now I notice the globe screensaver has some blue arifacts in it plus a dotted red line that rises from bottom to top in the center. I switched over to the better graphics GPU and it wasn't there...when I went back it was there. It also showed up once in the energy saver window while in system preferences. I wonder if I should just tank the screen saver or if this is indicative of a problem w/ the 9400.
I had nothing plugged in except the magsafe & ethernet...am running iStat Pro. Also installed that ambrosia defcom globe screensaver which is really cool and that was on before the sleep issue so perhaps I need to get rid of that.
UPDATE: Now I notice the globe screensaver has some blue arifacts in it plus a dotted red line that rises from bottom to top in the center. I switched over to the better graphics GPU and it wasn't there...when I went back it was there. It also showed up once in the energy saver window while in system preferences. I wonder if I should just tank the screen saver or if this is indicative of a problem w/ the 9400.
I really got tired of this problem and decided to take it to the apple store. After three trips to the store, they decided to send it out for service. They replaced the logic board, and haven't had this problem anymore.
Believe it or not, but I'm recently having a problem with my powerbook g4, thank god for new MBP on friday! I know they are totally unrelated issues but sometimes when I wake my PB itll go to a blank white screen and I have to restart. On the other hand, sometimes when I go to sleep it, mid sleep process it stops doing anything and I get stuck on my desktop and I need to restart