MacBook Pros With OLED Displays Won't Have a Notch, Roadmap Shows

[tobybrut]

I don’t care much for the notch myself because I use one of those utilities that eats up a significant portion of the screen with diagnostic gauges like CPU/GPU used, fan speeds, temperature, etc. I have to limit what I put up there to not get covered up by the notch. I compensated by just adding the stuff I found most important and shortening the date/time. After that, I forget the notch is there.

 

[The Game 161]

certainly my next upgrade then for sure.

 

[iSayuSay]

Looks like iPad Pro will hold the crown for largest Apple device with OLED display for a short while.

 

[fabric17]

THANK GOD!!!

the question is : are they serious or kidding us?

 

[smoking monkey]

Now that's good news.
I'm often not very critical of apple, but I found the notch on the macbooks to be, frankly, ridiculous (especially since it lacked face id).

You can either have the extra screen realestate either side of the notch or black bezel. The face ID module is too deep to fit in the thin lids of the computers unfortunately.
I understand that if you use the entire menu bar it's not perfect though.

 

[Rokkus76]

I don’t care much for the notch myself because I use one of those utilities that eats up a significant portion of the screen with diagnostic gauges like CPU/GPU used, fan speeds, temperature, etc. I have to limit what I put up there to not get covered up by the notch. I compensated by just adding the stuff I found most important and shortening the date/time. After that, I forget the notch is there.

In my case it's not the notch itself that I find annoying. It is the increased thickness of the menu bar, compared to the old Mackbooks. I find it too big and IMO it's really ungainly...

 

[Saturn1217]

While this is good news the notch was never as big a deal on macOS as it was on iOS. With the exception of menu options having less space (which is an issue) I’ve never had any content be messed up by the notch and in general app and web developers don’t need to think about it (which is absolutely NOT the case with iOS). So it didn’t really bother me.

Now let’s keep working on removing the notch/Dynamic Island on the iPhone and we’ll be good.

 

[macfacts]

but, but, but the Notch is supposed to be Apples design to let everyone know its an Apple product, surely they cant remove it! 😜

They can bring back the glowing apple, other laptops have something similar. Asus zephyrus g16,OLED screen with windows hello login (similar to faceid) and lights on the back of the screen.

 

[Piplodocus]

Wow. Didn't know people still thought about it so passionately still until reading this thread. I never notice the notch on my Macbook, I guess because it's in the menu bar so I only notice when running a lot of menu bar items. Not so true for my iPhone where there'a big black island in the middle of stuff (or the rounded corners smetimes chopping corners off)

 

[Sinfonist]

Face ID would be pretty handy on a MacBook. When just using the MacBook undocked the fingerprint key is fine, but when I'm docked I either need to type in my password or reach over to the MacBook (I'm using a standalone keyboard when docked). With Face ID I could simply turn my head towards the MacBook and be set.

Two possible solutions - use a keyboard with TouchID (I have one for my M2 Mini) or use an Apple Watch to unlock (doesn't always unlock, but nice when it does). To be honest, I find faceID on my iPhone to be quite flaky (touchID is much more reliable in my experience)

 

[Piplodocus]

2k6

Wouldn't that be 2006 not 2026?

Nope, that'd be 2600. So I think whoever it was is saying they're gonna use their macbook for only another 576 years...

 

[FineWoven]

2k6

Nope, that'd be 2600. So I think whoever it was is saying they're gonna use their macbook for only another 576 years...

Apple will only support it with software updates for another 575 years though, forcing you to upgrade when your machine would be perfectly fine for at least another year. The greed of this company is getting out of hand!

 

[groove-agent]

I'd take the notch over a massive bezel, although I run my screen at lower resolutions and subsequently run out of menu bar space which sometimes conceals some icons on the right side.

I wish Apple could prefect the under the screen cameras or just somehow get rid of the notch/ pill / pinhole. I t would be great if it was just 100% display.

 

[PotentPeas]

find more ways to complain about the notch yall 🍿

okay fine tho I’ll give. finally invested in CrossOver the other day after learning how absurdly easy it is to play games off Steam with a good Wine bottler + GPTK. yes, there’s something incredibly irritating about playing GTAV fullscreen with that damn notch just there in the middle on top. fine! I get it!

OLED will be here soon enough, M6(?) is shaping up to be the biggest MBP upgrade yet post-Apple Silicon

Set your screen resolution to a 16:10 resolution and the notch disappears! (I regularly do this for Windows games.)

 

[Tagbert]

Have to see whether Apple will implement some kind of dynamic island feature for the Macs.

Not so sure whether the roadmap is correct. It shows MacBook Air in 2022 with just a rectangular screen when it is having a notch cut out and also the 15" model did not launch until 2023. Also as per the roadmap, the MacBook Air is getting the notch in 2028. Think by then the Air should also get the hole punch cut out.

The Dynamic Island is a way to bring some degree of multitasking to the phone. The Mac doesn’t need that so I doubt they would go there.

 

[fastasleep]

Compared to current MacBook Pro models with mini-LED screens

They’re LCD screens, with mini-LED backlighting. There are no “mini-LED screens”.

 

[Tagbert]

They’re LCD screens, with mini-LED backlighting. There are no “mini-LED screens”.

yet, the term for those has become "mini-LED". It is confusing in the context of "micro-LED" which does have LED emitters. Display terminology is almost as bad as USB versions.

 

[prinzseptim]

Excellent, I just swapped my base M1 Pro 16 for upgraded M4 Pro 16. Be able to use it for the next 'few years' until the new MBP 16s settle in with their redesign, work out any issues. don't buy gen 1s 😉!

 

[semka]

The monobrow (aka the notch) was a pure branding decision as there was no FaceID and many other manufacturers had a thin bezel implementing a high quality camera. As such, this indeed was one of the poorest design choices Apple ever made.

 

[Tagbert]

The monobrow (aka the notch) was a pure branding decision as there was no FaceID and many other manufacturers had a thin bezel implementing a high quality camera. As such, this indeed was one of the poorest design choices Apple ever made.

It allowed the screen to be larger without making the case parter. Big benefit. It used a part of the screen that was minimally used. Most people are not bothered by it and just get on with using these devices.

It is the size that it is because there is a camera, a light sensor, a true tone sensor, and two mounting tabs. The thinness of the lid prevents current faceID from being used as the components are much thicker than the lid. Those other, unnamed, manufacturers that put “high quality” cameras into the bezel have limited optics and sensors.

If the notch bugs you so much there are several methods you can use that essentially give you a big bezel at the top like you want.

 

[AssassuN]

It allowed the screen to be larger without making the case parter. Big benefit. It used a part of the screen that was minimally used. Most people are not bothered by it and just get on with using these devices.

It is the size that it is because there is a camera, a light sensor, a true tone sensor, and two mounting tabs. The thinness of the lid prevents current faceID from being used as the components are much thicker than the lid. Those other, unnamed, manufacturers that put “high quality” cameras into the bezel have limited optics and sensors.

If the notch bugs you so much there are several methods you can use that essentially give you a big bezel at the top like you want.

Yeah we still got 16:10 usable space, they extended the aspect ratio vertically to account for the notch. I do hope once the notch is removed, they continue with this aspect ratio.

 

[green_diyos]

I have a 2019 Macbook Pro 16" Core i7 14nm. I will likely replace it with a MBP with OLED when it becomes available.

 

[Kitber]

But as Apple said in the launch, the notch allows the screen to be pushed beautifully into the corners. How will they do that beautifully if they remove the notch.