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This one is turning out to be a big concern for people. To be quite frank, the MacBook's keyboard just doesnt do it for me. The PB's keyboard hit the exact sweet spot and I could not give it away for this. Boy am I glad I got the *last* *ever* (be it PPC or intel) rev of the 12"...Gatezone said:
Where's the simplicity
So when are they going to return to it?
All we need are
Small, medium, and large.
Configure above sizes with options your choice:
Save money in manufacturing with one form factor at each size level. Save money with either a scratchable metal case or a suffable indestructable carbon case.
Have a cheap preconfigured 'consumer' version with shared graphics and minimum everything, but it can all be optioned like you want. None of this two product lines that are eccentrically different. You want a cheap laptop for the elementary school you just order the cheap options.
fatsoforgotso said:Fair play milo, i anticipate your posts.
To GATEZONE:
"Simplicity is Apple's trademark..."
You said it bro.
Rich.
So when are they going to return to it?
All we need are
Small, medium, and large.
Configure above sizes with options your choice:
- Memory
- Express Card slot
- Drive size
- Graphics - shared or other options
- Color (except beige...)
- Camera ?
Save money in manufacturing with one form factor at each size level. Save money with either a scratchable metal case or a suffable indestructable carbon case.
Have a cheap preconfigured 'consumer' version with shared graphics and minimum everything, but it can all be optioned like you want. None of this two product lines that are eccentrically different. You want a cheap laptop for the elementary school you just order the cheap options.
andrewm said:
This DOES do right click, you just tap with two fingers instead of one.
Val-kyrie said:
Source?
slooksterPSV said:
Well, considering people already have the machines home and running them, what's so hard about installing a game?
briansolomon said:
Wrong. People have already loaded up FCS on these and confirmed that it works fine. Same with Aperture.
nxent said:
Considering how fast these are flying out of stores (just like the minis did), there's not much you can do to force them beyond standing in front of the store and keeping people out.
Final Cut Studio Will NOT Run Because It Doesn't Support Integrated Graphics?
Is there anyone here that has both that can confirm this or refute it?
So Final Cut Studio won't run at all on the MacBooks?briansolomon said:
Is there anyone here that has both that can confirm this or refute it?Gatezone said:
Apple would NOT save any money. Each SKU costs money. More ways to configure machines, more SKU's == more expenses.
that and quake3 is all i want to 'play' on the macbook.ripfrankwhite said:
so, does it run those two?
Mac book and Games
So you mac experts out there, I need your help!!
I've been thinking about upgrading my Ibook for ages and am looking into buying the Mac Book. However I need to be sure it does a few things first. can you tell me whether it's gonna run the following games successfully?
-Agatha Christie: And then there were none
- The new Da Vinci Code Game
- Tomb raider
- Star Wars future games
- Superman Returns
basically I want to play mostly adventure games but also some action games like Superman and Tomb Raider and Star wars!
I also want to connect my el guitar directly to the mac book and record with Garageband.
So are all these programs gonna run smoothly? Or should I save up for a pro?
So you mac experts out there, I need your help!!
I've been thinking about upgrading my Ibook for ages and am looking into buying the Mac Book. However I need to be sure it does a few things first. can you tell me whether it's gonna run the following games successfully?
-Agatha Christie: And then there were none
- The new Da Vinci Code Game
- Tomb raider
- Star Wars future games
- Superman Returns
basically I want to play mostly adventure games but also some action games like Superman and Tomb Raider and Star wars!
I also want to connect my el guitar directly to the mac book and record with Garageband.
So are all these programs gonna run smoothly? Or should I save up for a pro?
thejadedmonkey said:
Some good points. Here's the thing: it's a high end, "serious", consumer machine. It's intended to be taken "seriously" and that's why they're less bothered about GPU than they are about battery life and size.
It does make a good road warrior. Just because it's larger than a 12" doesn't mean it's not small, it's smaller than 90% of the laptops out there. Most people I know with laptops, most pros, are using 14" machines, not 12", 12" is the super-premium size in most markets.
It's not revolutionary, but then Apple doesn't, quite honestly, do revolutionary. The last major upset we saw with them was... well, there wasn't. Mac OS X is an evolutionary update of NextStep with Mac OS thrown in, and it's probably the most revolutionary thing we've seen from them. From Apple's point of view, their aim is to produce a machine that brings technologies that aren't being done well to market in a way that now works. They fix things. Of late, they've fixed networking with Bonjour. They've fixed webcams with iSight and iChat AV. They've fixed multimedia with the simple addition of a remote control. They fixed MP3 players with the iPod and iTunes combination. They fixed online music buying with the iTunes Music Store.
And this is such a machine. It "just works". My Thinkpad is going to arrive today, and while I know I'm going to love it, and I know I personally will do much more customization than most (I'm putting Debian on it, and probably Darwin in the probably forlorn hope that a legal OS X will go on the shelves with Leopard), I'm also aware that things "just working" isn't going to happen. I'll be running IBM/Lenovo's subsystems over XP over whatever, and it's going to be a kludge. If I didn't value (a) Free Software and (b) the trackpoint so much, I'd consider a MacBook too.
The MacBook isn't for everyone. But a sizable group of people want something that'll be hassle free, reasonably fast, and work for them for the serious stuff they want to do - running Office type apps to write essays, manipulating video, etc, and want to be able to do it anywhere. And they're willing to pay that kind of money to get that. This isn't the Mac mini, where the precise people who want a fixed location box that doesn't cost a fortune and is good for entertainment type stuff are going to have difficulty justifying $800 on a machine whose gaming abilities are somewhat antiquated.
Diddiyo said:
I think it's pretty obvious that it should run'em with no hassles...my iMac G5 (single core, 2GHz) plays Call of Duty and Google Earth perfectly well...I can't see how a faster Core Duo wouldn't...
So you mac experts out there, I need your help!!
I've been thinking about upgrading my Ibook for ages and am looking into buying the Mac Book. However I need to be sure it does a few things first. can you tell me whether it's gonna run the following games successfully?
-Agatha Christie: And then there were none
- The new Da Vinci Code Game
- Tomb raider
- Star Wars future games
- Superman Returns
basically I want to play mostly adventure games but also some action games like Superman and Tomb Raider and Star wars!
I also want to connect my el guitar directly to the mac book and record with Garageband.
So are all these programs gonna run smoothly? Or should I save up for a pro?
I've been thinking about upgrading my Ibook for ages and am looking into buying the Mac Book. However I need to be sure it does a few things first. can you tell me whether it's gonna run the following games successfully?
-Agatha Christie: And then there were none
- The new Da Vinci Code Game
- Tomb raider
- Star Wars future games
- Superman Returns
basically I want to play mostly adventure games but also some action games like Superman and Tomb Raider and Star wars!
I also want to connect my el guitar directly to the mac book and record with Garageband.
So are all these programs gonna run smoothly? Or should I save up for a pro?
Final Cut, Aperture, Google Earth, Wow, etc...
I have noticed a significant slowing as more app.'s are open and in monitoring CPU find them in fairly low useage. 512 of Ram doesn't hack it. Opening Word, Safari, IPhoto, ICal have 5 meg. of free memory and notice only 1 meg. of "free" memory. This will significantly hamper any real graphic intensive tasks. Barefeats linked test in previous thread ran a MB vs. MBP with 512 vs. 2G - hardly a fair comparison. I'll have 2G tomorrow...
I have noticed a significant slowing as more app.'s are open and in monitoring CPU find them in fairly low useage. 512 of Ram doesn't hack it. Opening Word, Safari, IPhoto, ICal have 5 meg. of free memory and notice only 1 meg. of "free" memory. This will significantly hamper any real graphic intensive tasks. Barefeats linked test in previous thread ran a MB vs. MBP with 512 vs. 2G - hardly a fair comparison. I'll have 2G tomorrow...
thejadedmonkey said:
Have a look at it this way:
We got more than we expected for:
Graphic design: Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign etc.
Music: Garageband etc. wicked VST performance!
Multitasking.
+ everything not heavy on 3D
giganten said:
Photoshop - It will run, but better on the iMac, and far better when they come out with a Universal for the Intel (CS3). Do you really need Photoshop or is Photoshop Elements enough for your needs?
The 20" iMac is fantastic. The MacBook is a great little portable, but not meant to be a graphics workhorse.
Wow I see the Mac apologists are out in force again. It's this kind of crazyness which makes me cringe as a Mac fan.
Intel GMA950 integrated graphics is in no way better than a Radeon 9550 video card.
The 13" MacBook series is supposed to replace the 12" Powerbook as well, but without a decent accelerated video card this simply isn't going to suffice.
Eventually Apple will release a 13" MacBook with a mid-range dedicated video card, and the apologists will once again say "See, told you so, it was all part of Apple's genius plan all along".
Truth is, Apple has left a hole where the 12" Powerbook used to be, and that hole needs to be filled, and no amount of ranting and railing from the apologists will distort that reality
I've purchased a 2GHz MacBook for my sister, but I'm waiting for the true successor to the 12" Powerbook.
Intel GMA950 integrated graphics is in no way better than a Radeon 9550 video card.
The 13" MacBook series is supposed to replace the 12" Powerbook as well, but without a decent accelerated video card this simply isn't going to suffice.
Eventually Apple will release a 13" MacBook with a mid-range dedicated video card, and the apologists will once again say "See, told you so, it was all part of Apple's genius plan all along".
Truth is, Apple has left a hole where the 12" Powerbook used to be, and that hole needs to be filled, and no amount of ranting and railing from the apologists will distort that reality
I've purchased a 2GHz MacBook for my sister, but I'm waiting for the true successor to the 12" Powerbook.
daneoni said:
I have never been into an Apple store, but your post sounds like they are prepared negotiate a little on price if you upgrade a couple of bits, is that right? I'm assuming this was a UK store?
Anyhow, thanks for the summary, I personally found it very useful.
Wow. So we`ve reached Post# 1650, Page67. I wonder if it is a record? Or are we still far behind?
deadpoet said:
They released it several months ago, its called the Macbook Pro. Apparently Apple didn't sell enough of the "Big 12 Inchers" to warrant a new product line. The Macbook at the current price point is as good as its gonna get, great value and a great product from Apple. If the only thing people can complain about is the intergrated graphics then they have done a great job. These things are gonna sell like hot cakes. Apples Notebook lineup is now completely revamped on the Intel chipset in less than 6 months, great job Apple.
Gatezone said:
You're making things more complex, not more simple. Apple would need to find a way to make all of those things work in each model, and then allow people to customize the living heck out of the inside. This is not a desktop with infinite space - it's a laptop where every inch needs to be thought about exactly how it will be used. Do you really think all of those people who have no use for discrete graphics, expresscard slots, firewire 800, etc are going to want to have to lug around a larger laptop with all of its "holes" (missing features) covered with ugly covers?
I think not.
Basically the MacBook is better in every way apart from 2:gedto said:PowerBook 12'' vs. MacBook feature comparison
Size and weight.
Unfortunately for us road warriors those are pretty important.
I'm still holding out hope that Apple will make a lighter laptop. Maybe an ultraportbale without a optical drive wieghing in around 3lbs. I'm willing to pay more for this Apple!