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PaulinMaryland said:
Point well taken! I'll be buying the MacBook with the slowest CPU for the same reason. Performance is nice to have if you can replace the battery with a spare. But when your battery is captive, as it is in the MacBook (correct?), efficiency matters more.
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Speaking of battery life, I had left my MacBook 2.0GHz on to drain its battery last night. The screen was set to turn off after thirty minutes, but it was set to never put the CPU to sleep and I kept Bluetooth and Wifi on with the Wifi connected to the router.

Ok, so nothing but Wifi was really running, but still, the thing was still on 11 hours later. I was impressed to put it mildly.
 
PaulinMaryland said:
Point well taken! I'll be buying the MacBook with the slowest CPU for the same reason. Performance is nice to have if you can replace the battery with a spare. But when your battery is captive, as it is in the MacBook (correct?), efficiency matters more.
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Wow.. somepne DOE read all the posts. :eek:
However, I think the CPU clocks down on battery (you can tell it to do so) so both models should work equally long on battery. Right? :confused: Be sure to ut a lot of RAM in there to keep the HDD from working too much. I'm looking for an efficient hard drive right for my Macbook right now. Pretty hard to find big 2,5" SATA... :(
 
PaulinMaryland said:
battery is captive
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What do you mean? You can have a spare battery and it is replaceable. You have to remove the battery to install RAM, all it takes is a turn of the latch on the bottom and it pops out.

Not sure if you need to turn off or sleep the MacBook if you want to replace the battery mid-use, the old 15" and 17" PowerBook's could just be put to sleep during the process but the iBook and the 12" PB had to be shut down.
 
Semantic Wiggle Room

ManchesterTrix said:
I said Motion doesn't work. Which to be more specific, I meant it's not usable.
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I thought you said Motion won't run at all on MacBooks. But according to Leemo is does and is.

Then I thought you said Final Cut Pro won't run on MacBooks.
ManchesterTrix said:
I never even implied that let alone asserted that. I said it wasn't supported, and it isn't and won't be. So you know, maybe you should read what I say before you make yourself look more foolish.
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What the hell does that mean? Isn't and won't be supported? What the heck are you talking about?

Well then I owe you an apology. I thought you MEANT won't run when you siad it isn't supported and won't be. My bad. I apologize. :rolleyes:

Oh and congratulations on your semantical acrobatics. :p . You have brilliant english language usage dexterity and flexibility when the FACTS DEFEAT YOUR Original INTENT. I was SO WRONG to challenge your posts trying to tell everyone they can't run FCS on MacBooks. Yeah I should have just let those go. I was so WRONG. I am a really terrible person for taking up space on this server with that kind of rubbish. I am such a DICK. In fact I AM FOOLISH. And I LOOK Foolish TOO.

You are such a name calling wizard when the FACTS DEFEAT your "REALITY".
 
PaulinMaryland said:
Point well taken! I'll be buying the MacBook with the slowest CPU for the same reason. Performance is nice to have if you can replace the battery with a spare. But when your battery is captive, as it is in the MacBook (correct?), efficiency matters more.
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What do mean "captive"? That it can't be removed?
Yes it can, just twist the lock and voila! it's out.
Pop in a spare nd off you go to more computing.
 
Apple buying strategies

I'm rethinking my situation. Give me time and I'll come up with a rationale for spending my money :rolleyes:

I need a laptop because I sold my powerbook 15. I rashly gambled on Apple coming out with something a little different than the specs on the Macbook.

I know that there will be better systems in less than six months because it happens every time I buy a Mac. Matter of months and there is something released that I'd rather have (scrolling track pad was the last one...) It's a fact of mac life that I've lived with since I bought an 840av... groan. Before that I just bought used Macs.

So the strategy is to buy the middle rung macbook knowing that I'll sell my son's mac mini and give it to him in the next 12 - 18 months. Long as it will run Studio 8 my 10 year old son will be happy. He is a maniac with creating flash animations. He'll love the spanning with his current LCD monitor.


Bitch, bitch, moan, whine, whine, stutter, whimper, grouse.... buy?
 
Gatezone said:
What does this mean "your battery is captive?"
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Nonremovable. Glad to read that I'm wrong. I hadn't read the battery capacity in the specs page nor read any discussion of battery capacity so I wrongly assumed that you can't swap it out. (Please spare me the quip about, "You know what happens when you assume"; that's true only in English, so it's hardly a universal truth.)
 
Any more news on the black surface flake issue that was being reported yesterday? Seems like we would have heard more about this unless the undergarments are really covering the eyes :cool:

PaulinMaryland said:
Nonremovable. Please tell me I'm wrong!
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See other posts before this one. You are wonderfully wrong :) .
 
PaulinMaryland said:
Nonremovable. Please tell me I'm wrong!
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What gave you the impression it was nonremoveable?

I think about 4 or 5 people have now told you that you are wrong. The battery is removed in the same way as on the current iBook, turn the little latch on the bottom.
 
Battery capacity?

Gatezone said:
See other posts before this one. You are wonderfully wrong :) .
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So what is the battery's capacity? We need to know as a benchmark for comparing aftermarket batteries. Is the battery the same as the MacBook Pro 15.4's?
 
PaulinMaryland said:
So what is the battery's capacity? We need to know as a benchmark for comparing aftermarket batteries. Is the battery the same as the MacBook Pro 15.4's?
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Battery IS removable:

DSC_1364.jpg

http://www.kodawarisan.com/macbook/macbook001.html

I read somewhere it's 5500 mAh (compared to 4400 mAh to the 12" powerbook I think).
 
PaulinMaryland said:
So what is the battery's capacity? We need to know as a benchmark for comparing aftermarket batteries. Is the battery the same as the MacBook Pro 15.4's?
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Its got a 55 Watt Hour battery.

Compared to

60 Watt Hour (15.4" MBP)
68 Watt Hour (17" MBP)
 
battery capacity

I see it: 55 watt-hours, vs. 60 watt-hours for the battery that comes with the MacBook Pro 15.4. I'd bet my boots that the Pro Battery won't fit.

As for how I missed it: When you shop for a portable media player, the specs will tell you if the battery is removable/spareable. I expected the same convention here, and the specs don't mention "removable."
 
battery price

I just checked Froogle. A spare battery will run you more than $120. I hope there are third-party alternatives soon, but I fear there won't be. A search on eBay for macbook + battery turned up nothing, even though the MacBook Pro has been out for months.
 
PaulinMaryland said:
I just checked Froogle. A spare battery will run you more than $120. I hope there are third-party alternatives soon, but I fear there won't be.
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That's been a fairly common price for replacement batteries. The good news is on the MacBook, with users reporting getting over 5 hours of battery time, that many people won't need replacement batteries! I for one purchased them in the past, and rarely used them, but they sure add weight when lugging the Book around. This time I'm definitely passing on a spare battery.
 
PaulinMaryland said:
So what is the battery's capacity? We need to know as a benchmark for comparing aftermarket batteries. Is the battery the same as the MacBook Pro 15.4's?
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It's all on the MacBook's website. It's not the same battery as the MacBook Pro, it's much larger physically than the old iBook battery and from anecdotal evidence on this site gives the MacBook very good battery life.

It's a 55Wh battery.

MacBook Tech Specs

Here's some pics.
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dr_lha said:
Its got a 55 Watt Hour battery.

Compared to

60 Watt Hour (15.4" MBP)
68 Watt Hour (17" MBP)
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Therefore it uses less power and, i'm assuming, less current gets turned into heat energy so it is cooler.
 
®îçhå®? said:
Therefore it uses less power and, i'm assuming, less current gets turned into heat energy so it is cooler.
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I would imagine the majority of energy saving (as it has the same CPU as the MacBooks) is from not having an ATI X1600 sitting in there.
 
Anybody have confirmation of the shipping turnaround when ordering directly from apple? My order went out wednesday @ noon, so if it ships in `1-5 days and then takes 2-3 days to arrive I might have it 5/26? I CANT WAIT!!!!!:cool:
 
jbembe said:
Anybody have confirmation of the shipping turnaround when ordering directly from apple? My order went out wednesday @ noon, so if it ships in `1-5 days and then takes 2-3 days to arrive I might have it 5/26? I CANT WAIT!!!!!:cool:
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Wow. I ordered on Wednesday, and have an estimated delivery date of 6th June! Maybe UK people are being made to wait :( heh
 
jbembe said:
Anybody have confirmation of the shipping turnaround when ordering directly from apple? My order went out wednesday @ noon, so if it ships in `1-5 days and then takes 2-3 days to arrive I might have it 5/26? I CANT WAIT!!!!!:cool:
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I ordered mine Tuesday morning and it just showed up in my office five minutes ago... they were quoting 1-5 days until it shipped and then another 5 days for shipping when I ordered it...

And now if you'll excuse me, I have a box to open! :D
 
Anoi said:
Wow. I ordered on Wednesday, and have an estimated delivery date of 6th June! Maybe UK people are being made to wait :( heh
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I ordered a white 2.0GHz/1GB/100GB MacBook on tuesday afternoon from the UK store - just checked my order and it has shipped, arriving on or before 26th May. A colleague who ordered at the same time says his has shipped too. Before it shipped it gave an estimated delivery of 2nd June.

That's a lot quicker than when I ordered the first Mac mini on the day of launch :)
 
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