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Bought the black
Well boys (and girls), I hate to say it, but I caved and bought the black. On the apple website it looks terrible (like a winbook), but at the apple store in person ... fell in love. Even my fiancee who didn't want me to buy one at all thought the black was worth the extra bucks. It's not - there is nothing that costs Apple $200 more to make this - but it sure does look damn cool (excuse my typical American ways of thinking about this).
People had previously been asking "does this work with the MB" etc. If anyone wants, send me a message and I'll do whatever tests for compatability that I can. I've got a 1.5GHz G4 PB that I haven't sold yet, so I can do very good side-by-sides. I can already tell you that loading MS Office using Rosetta is basically the same speed as loading it natively on the PB. That really surprised me (happily, of course).
Well boys (and girls), I hate to say it, but I caved and bought the black. On the apple website it looks terrible (like a winbook), but at the apple store in person ... fell in love. Even my fiancee who didn't want me to buy one at all thought the black was worth the extra bucks. It's not - there is nothing that costs Apple $200 more to make this - but it sure does look damn cool (excuse my typical American ways of thinking about this).
People had previously been asking "does this work with the MB" etc. If anyone wants, send me a message and I'll do whatever tests for compatability that I can. I've got a 1.5GHz G4 PB that I haven't sold yet, so I can do very good side-by-sides. I can already tell you that loading MS Office using Rosetta is basically the same speed as loading it natively on the PB. That really surprised me (happily, of course).
Congratulations! How Did You Change Her Mind? And What Changed Yours?
Are you not an American?
Good story. But it would be nice to know more details of what happened when you got to the store and saw it in the flesh for the first time since you seemed to be predisposed to NOT buying it.
Congratulations! How Did You Change Her Mind to let you buy it? You mean she didn't want you to buy it until she saw it in person with you? And you didn't buy her a white one?astaples said:
Are you not an American?
Good story. But it would be nice to know more details of what happened when you got to the store and saw it in the flesh for the first time since you seemed to be predisposed to NOT buying it.
Multimedia said:Thanks. I didn't know the Seagate 160 is only PATA. I thought they offered it in both flavors. I'm also surprised they are thicker. That's pretty lame since most mobile designs only allow for the standard thickness. So 120GB is the top in Reality Land.
Are we 100% sure there isn't any wiggle room for the fatter SATA Drives in the MacBook's SATA Slot? Anybody?
Good info. Didn't do my research on that one. May I vote a preference for Seagate since they are USA engineered in my home County of Santa Cruz CA? Plus quieter. Are the 120's also the new perpendicular technology? I thought that was only for the 160s.
NOTE: I recently discovered it is a good idea to always give posts titles in order to find old ones more easily when you search by author.
If I read well apparently even with the perpendicular technology (and yes both the SATAs and PATAs from Seagate use it, so far all the Momentus line) when you go beyond the 120 they use 3 platters instead of two, and that is the reason of the thickness going to 12.5 mm. Now that you have a Black MacBook you can probably open the harddrive and see if there is an extra 3 mm between the disk and the plate, of course there should be some space for ventilation and maybe the bigger disk will fill that space resulting in overheating.
Btw, we almost neighboars, I live in Pleasanton, maybe we should met someday.
Multimedia said:I think I can rest my case with this post. Thank you all for your lovely and jubilant opinions. I recant any comments about limited functionality with the exception of Multi-Clips and limited to DV and HDV formats.
Enjoy your MacBook multimedia workstation. You're right Multi. It's an $1,100 Avid. Sure it is.
Apple may just have saved me money
I was wanting a 15" MBP to replace my 15" TiBook. With the new Macbook, i believe it is the better buy for me.
I do absolutely nothing GPU intensive, and the main computing concerns for me are RAM, HD speed and processor speed. The Macbook has the same max RAM, can be easily upgraded (HD and RAM), and the processor speed is the same as the MBP (albeit the 2.16). I care nothing for glowing keyboards or the expresscard slot.
Some people are still saying the MBP are for the "Pros". Well maybe the gaming pros or the visual artist professionals, however for my field (audio) the Macbook is perfect. The inclusion of FW 400 and USB 2.0 really make the Macbook an option for those of us who use external audio interfaces.
I plan on going to the Durham NC store tomorrow and checking one out, and probably buying (the 2ghz white model) and then upgrading the HD to the Hitachi Travelstar 7200rpm 100gig and adding a 1gig stick of RAM to bump the RAM to 1.25gigs. After my edu discount, the HD and the stick of RAM i will still be under $1600, when a comparable MBP would be over $2300. Thats a $700 difference. That makes me giddy.
If anyone sees any flaws with my logic, please feel free to point them out.
I was wanting a 15" MBP to replace my 15" TiBook. With the new Macbook, i believe it is the better buy for me.
I do absolutely nothing GPU intensive, and the main computing concerns for me are RAM, HD speed and processor speed. The Macbook has the same max RAM, can be easily upgraded (HD and RAM), and the processor speed is the same as the MBP (albeit the 2.16). I care nothing for glowing keyboards or the expresscard slot.
Some people are still saying the MBP are for the "Pros". Well maybe the gaming pros or the visual artist professionals, however for my field (audio) the Macbook is perfect. The inclusion of FW 400 and USB 2.0 really make the Macbook an option for those of us who use external audio interfaces.
I plan on going to the Durham NC store tomorrow and checking one out, and probably buying (the 2ghz white model) and then upgrading the HD to the Hitachi Travelstar 7200rpm 100gig and adding a 1gig stick of RAM to bump the RAM to 1.25gigs. After my edu discount, the HD and the stick of RAM i will still be under $1600, when a comparable MBP would be over $2300. Thats a $700 difference. That makes me giddy.
If anyone sees any flaws with my logic, please feel free to point them out.
Anyone know if the dvd drive can be upgraded to the aftermarket dual layer dvd drives that are being sold for the iBook? From the pics I saw it looks like the GFX maybe upgradable but only to other intel chips like the 950+(or something) i read about.
Why Upgrade To Dual Layer And Blow Your Applecare?
Why Upgrade To Dual Layer And Blow Your Applecare? Plus it cost too much compared to an external for $75. Some company will offer it soon. But I wouldn't do it.bloodycape said:
No, they won't fit in the MacBook. If they did, they'd already be in the MacBook. The second part of your comment doesn't seem to be about the DVD drive, but if you're saying the MacBook graphics are upgradeable, they absolutely are not.bloodycape said:
Sorry if this has already been posted before.
Here's a Doom3, UT2004, Quake3 Benchmark between a mac mini G4 (radeon 9200) and a mac mini intel (gma 950). though the text is in german, i guess you will understand the images and it will help you to compare the graphic cards.
http://games4mac.de/content_g4m/benchmarks/macmini_intel.php
hmpf!
Here's a Doom3, UT2004, Quake3 Benchmark between a mac mini G4 (radeon 9200) and a mac mini intel (gma 950). though the text is in german, i guess you will understand the images and it will help you to compare the graphic cards.
http://games4mac.de/content_g4m/benchmarks/macmini_intel.php
hmpf!
MrCrowbar said:There go the first problems with the integrated graohics:
from http://www.johnwaller.org/apple/macbook/
Looks like something is just broken on his machine, either the hardware is messed up or he needs to do a software reinstall. I'd be shocked if that has anything to do with the integrated graphics, it's the same chip as the mini and I've never seen anything like that.
netdog said:Enjoy your MacBook multimedia workstation. You're right Multi. It's an $1,100 Avid. Sure it is.
My favorite part of this whole discussion is the complete lack of any middle ground. If it can't do everything an avid can, it's completely worthless for editing any video. Right.
You still haven't explained what poor results you've seen running FCP on one of these. Which features don't work? What were you trying to do that ran unacceptably slow? Honestly, I'd love to see some FCP benchmarks comparing the MB and MBP. (macworld has already posted general benchmarks, and the MB is almost as fast as the MBP on most of theirs)
bloodycape said:
If it's the same space constraints as the 15, no. The 15 uses a 9mm drive, so far dual layer burners are only available as 12mm. If there was a drive that fit, I'm sure apple would use it.
so...
i just got a new 2GHZ, white macbook yesterday...
and the only problem i have had so far...
is the OS X system, freazing up at startup when the Security Update 2006-003 (intel) Vers.1 is updated...
can anyone tell me why this is happening...had to reinstall the system to revert back to the origanal
also, keyboard is awesome, it takes some time to get used to, but it is pretty nice.
i just got a new 2GHZ, white macbook yesterday...
and the only problem i have had so far...
is the OS X system, freazing up at startup when the Security Update 2006-003 (intel) Vers.1 is updated...
can anyone tell me why this is happening...had to reinstall the system to revert back to the origanal
also, keyboard is awesome, it takes some time to get used to, but it is pretty nice.
As one who has already put a few hard drives in their MacBook, I can say that a 12.5mm drive would not fit. Sorry. That's 99% certain since I actually haven't tried it, but I don't see an extra 3mm going in there.Multimedia said:
I'm happy to report my 100GB 7200rpm Hitachi drive is chugging along just fine.
Seagate 160: PATA, yes; thicker, maybe not!
According to Seagate's specsheet (PDF), the Momentus 160 is no thicker than the 120. Am I missing something?
Transfer rate is identical, too. So is PATA truly a disadvantage here?
Here are the Momentus 160 US eBay listings.
According to Seagate's specsheet (PDF), the Momentus 160 is no thicker than the 120. Am I missing something?
Transfer rate is identical, too. So is PATA truly a disadvantage here?
Here are the Momentus 160 US eBay listings.
PaulinMaryland said:
What do you mean by disadvantage? It won't *work* in a MacBook or MacBook Pro unless it's a SATA drive. The adaptors are not compatible. Is that disadvantage enough?
Confirmed: Seagate SATA 160GB 2.5" 9.5mm MacBook Compatible Thick Ships In July
On phone with Seagate Corporate Communications now. He confirms SATA Version of 160 ships July. So if you can hold off two months or so the Seagate Momentus 5400 160 SATA should be out by end of July at the latest.
That's sort of good news. You are correct that the 160 is only 9.5mm thick. So I'm getting very excited. 160GB inside a MacBook will be AWESOME. SATA version is coming in July. PATA Connectors Are Completely Different Than SATA Connectors so this one won't work at all.PaulinMaryland said:
On phone with Seagate Corporate Communications now. He confirms SATA Version of 160 ships July. So if you can hold off two months or so the Seagate Momentus 5400 160 SATA should be out by end of July at the latest.
I really love this mac...quiet and more Balanced then my 12 ibook....no sticking keys and love the screen....so perfect in every way
Seagate SATA 120GB is $152+shipping via Froogle
OK, I get it. At any rate, the 120 Seagate Momentus 5400.2 is looking mighty attractive. As I write, eBay prices are about $178+ shipping, but Froogle turns up reputable dealers (4 stars) selling them for about $152 plus shipping. With 2GB of RAM available for $144 and now this, the base MacBook is looking more attractive all the time...mkrishnan said:What do you mean by disadvantage? It won't *work* in a MacBook or MacBook Pro unless it's a SATA drive. The adaptors are not compatible. Is that disadvantage enough?