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MacBooks, MacBook Pros, and Pro Apps to See Updates at WWDC?

iMacmatician said:
Hey I never said I agreed with it! :D

Maybe the 10" device will have a backlight. :p

Mine too. It also fits well with a H1 2010 Arrandale update.
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Indeed it does. Intel's roadmap has become a little murky though with delays, cancellations and accelerated development. It looks like a 50:50 chance of Intel reaching decent supply levels of mobile 32nm Nehalem's before the new year. Of course, if Intel doesn't completely make it, Intel could always give the limited supply to Apple a little earlier but who knows.
 
Belly-laughs said:
Enter matte options and TI FireWire controllers across the range!
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Wait... time out... which part of the portable range doesn't have TI firewire? The standard MacBook has no firewire, so... are you talking about the MBP? I thought they reverted to TI on MBP after a short stint with Agere that made a lot of people furious.
 
Thank you!!! I am hoping for a new aperture version!!! can't wait I also can't wait for them to update the MBP I mean really a 9600m gt? I want a 9800m GT!!!
 
4np said:
H1 or Q1?
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Intel says Q4 2009, but there's no clear indication of whether that means production at Q4 2009 or retail availability at Q4 2009. So probably more accurate to say Q1 2010, but there is the slim chance of a pre-Christmas update.
 
Thomas2006 said:
We will most likely have to wait until after Final Cut Studio 3 gets released. I expect it will require Leopard, but whether Apple makes it Intel-only, I am not sure.
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I'd bank on it being Intel only. Apple wants to kill off PPC and for good. consumers have had plenty of time to migrate to Intel systems by now, especially "pros."

What I'm not sure about is why Apple would announce it at WWDC. Yes, it's due, but seems like there is already a lot on Apple's product announcement plate for WWDC. It would just fall in the cracks left by the new iPhone and 10.6 and maybe a mystery laptop. Plus Apple is never this ambitious when announcing new products. It likes to spread things out. Of course IF by some miracle 10.6 includes native BD burning support then it might make sense to announce FCS3 too, but FSC3 really deserves a special event of its own.
 
According to the Buyer's Guide, both the MB and MBP have reached their average update cycle length (about 190 days) so I expect updates much sooner than WWDC.
 
Anuba said:
Yeah, but Clarksfield quads are only 35 W and will be out this summer, before the Arrandale duos.
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Yeah, but a June update will be too early for Clarksfield, unless Apple gets a special early delivery or they're just announcing the update. And from the iMac at least, quads aren't looking good.
 
Apple's entire portable range is dead to me, so I don't give a damn what they do with that (they'll never, ever release the product I want and I accept that).

However, a 64bit Intel-only Cocoa rewrite of Final Cut Studio with OpenCL support and much much better multithreading would make my year, especially if they improve the roundtripping to Color and Motion.
 
iMacmatician said:
Yeah, but a June update will be too early for Clarksfield, unless Apple gets a special early delivery or they're just announcing the update. And from the iMac at least, quads aren't looking good.
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I think it might be a combo of early delivery and early announcement. They could have them by July if Intel plays nice, and it wouldn't be the first time that Apple announces products a few weeks before they're available. There's less risk of cannibalizing current MBP sales, since the quad will be in a higher price range of its own...

Intel could've released both Clarksfield and Arrandale this summer, but due to the economic downturn their current products aren't being cleared out at the expect rate, so the bastards are stalling.

Either way... I've already prepared my desk with a Rain Design mStand and a 1TB WD MyBook Studio for Time Machine, so... whatever the next MBP update is, I'm buying it.
 
I can't wait for the MBP update. I've been holding out for this, hopefully they will at least bump the BTO processor to 3.06Ghz, a quad core would be nice but I doubt it, maybe a 6GB Ram option though.
Plus, I really need to get FCP.

Personally, I think they will release the MB and MBP updates a week or two before WWDC, then mention them at the conference and focus the pro apps and Snow Leopard.

Take a look here:
http://www.macblogz.com/2008/10/23/macbook-pro-intel-chipsets-to-be-refreshed-in-april/
 
Anuba said:
I think it might be a combo of early delivery and early announcement. They could have them by July if Intel plays nice, and it wouldn't be the first time that Apple announces products a few weeks before they're available.
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That would be great. Definitely the "optimistic" scenario.

The "pessimistic" scenario would be a 133 MHz bump on all or some models.

Seems like the 2009 iMac CPU speculations before release… :eek: :eek:
 
Well its not out of the box eh...

scottness said:
Are you serious? 3G in an Apple notebook? Cool... but what would the monthly fee be for that? --Probably would make me uninterested.
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Well, in good old Europe you can get volume/pay as you go based data sims, I am with simyo in Germany, I can buy 1GB for 10 Euro and surf it down. Unfortunately it expires after one month, its perfect for my iPhone. Three in the UK gives a similar offer, 1Gb for £10 or so. Otherwise, no monthly fee, no contract, nothing.

But yes, monthly fees and a long contract binding you to a certain company would be terrible.

But I would like to have the option, just build me in an unlocked 3G modem, I will get my sim elsewhere...

But that goes against Apple's "everything works out of the box"

The UMTS market is terrible anyway, in Europe you need a SIM for every country you go to, there are long contracts, high prices, low download volumes etc.

Why not build in a generic SIM card, let it find the available networks, they offer you their prices, like on the Wlan hotspots, you can either suft for a volume, for a certain time, do a subscription for a month or a year, whatever you like. Maybe with offers to have that subscription in all countries the company has networks in, like O2 and T-Mobile are almost everywhere. Build it into every new Notebook, boost mobile Internet, why would one need DSL/Broadband if its all on the Notebook anyway, everywhere and the Notebook being your only computer anyway...

Have that in all European countries and anywhere else and voila, hasslefree mobile internet around the globe.

I recon cellular internet access is the future.

At least I can dream :)
 
iMacmatician said:
That would be great. Definitely the "optimistic" scenario.

The "pessimistic" scenario would be a 133 MHz bump on all or some models.

Seems like the 2009 iMac CPU speculations before release… :eek: :eek:
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Yeah, I'm prepared for the more plausible scenario, i.e. bumping up the MBP to 2.8/3.06. That's OK too I suppose. The worst thing about buying now, IMO, is missing the train on USB 3.0 which will be out in Q4 2009 or Q1 2010. It's one of those things that happen only once every 10 years (I believe the USB 2.0 spec is from 2000), and 3.0 will support 5 gbit theoretical (4 gbit in practice), which means bye-bye eSATA and firewire... on a desktop you'll be able to just add a USB 3.0 card, but on a laptop you're stuck with the ports you have.
 
^ You could get a USB 3 Express card with the MBP, which will easily beat the Mac Mini, iMac, MB, and MBA in terms of upgradability.
 
Been there, done that...

John Jacob said:
The current Macbook's and MBP's can already do that. Hint: tether using Bluetooth. The best part: the phone doesn't even have to leave my pocket. :D
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I tethered my iPhone already to my Macbook, it sucks the battery juice out of it faster I would do with a Caipiriniha. What you have after an hour or so is an empty phone. Connecting it via USB to the Macbook? Come on, cables are so last century :)

I also use a USB dongle for 3G Internet access. But still, you need to remember taking it with you, it blocks the only USB port on my Air and I would love to have it integrated.

I love 3G, you have internet everywhere (even if it is a bit slow in the countryside), no need to find Wifi hotspots, ask people in their home for access keys etc etc.

I think its the future :)
 
Prometheus2000 said:
Well, in good old Europe you can get volume/pay as you go based data sims, I am with simyo in Germany, I can buy 1GB for 10 Euro and surf it down. Unfortunately it expires after one month, its perfect for my iPhone. Three in the UK gives a similar offer, 1Gb for £10 or so. Otherwise, no monthly fee, no contract, nothing.
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Here in Sweden I pay around $25/month for the unlimited data plan for my iPhone. For a nominal fee I can get a secondary SIM card that I can stick in a computer or another 3G phone, still on the same plan... so yeah, 3G in a MacBook Pro would be great. Norwegian Telenor is planning rollout of 150 mbit mobile data...
rick3000 said:
^ You could get a USB 3 Express card with the MBP, which will easily beat the Mac Mini, iMac, MB, and MBA in terms of upgradability.
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Right... but I need the Express card port for mobile internet, unless of course Apple would have the decency to build that into the machines.
 
Apple are more likely to include GPS in the laptops, since CoreLocation is moving over to OSX. That's a developer announcement, and the announcement of GPS in the laptops sort of follows that.
 
FORGET SMALL UPDATES TO MB/MBP, APPLE. YOU NEED TO UPDATE YOUR DISPLAYS!!!!! YOU NEED TO FIX THE MINI-DISPLAY PORT TO DUAL-LINK DVI ADAPTER!!!! THESE ARE MAJOR ISSUES!!!!

Then launch a netbook w/an embedded 3G modem w/the 3G modem available in the MBs and MBPs.

That is all.
 
Firewire across the line, including MacBook and MacBook Air. No Firewire, no purchase!
 
Anuba said:
I think it might be a combo of early delivery and early announcement. They could have them by July if Intel plays nice, and it wouldn't be the first time that Apple announces products a few weeks before they're available. There's less risk of cannibalizing current MBP sales, since the quad will be in a higher price range of its own...

Intel could've released both Clarksfield and Arrandale this summer, but due to the economic downturn their current products aren't being cleared out at the expect rate, so the bastards are stalling.

Either way... I've already prepared my desk with a Rain Design mStand and a 1TB WD MyBook Studio for Time Machine, so... whatever the next MBP update is, I'm buying it.
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The problem with Clarksfield is that it's clock speeds are mostly sub-2 GHz, yet the 1.6 GHz model is rumored to cost much more (about $50 per unit) than the current 2.8 GHz Core 2 Duo after its May price drop. Now don't get me wrong, Snowy will certainly make good use of the cores, but I think that overall Apple (and most consumers) will see dual 2.8 GHz to be better than a pricier quad 1.6 GHz model even with the Nehalem bonuses. It's possible that Apple may release a special MBP model for it but I don't think it will happen.
 
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