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MacHeist Retail Bundle: 12 Mac Apps, $49
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The conversation gripes initially were about the bundle? Being a spoiled brat only applies if you're not going to be constructive in your criticism. How could you tell I was being condescending btw?
MacHeist can get bent
After all that pretend hacking furore last year there is no way I would ever touch a MacHeist bundle. Rubbish selection as well, why do people bother developing these feeble apps (iClip is almost useful the rest less so).
After all that pretend hacking furore last year there is no way I would ever touch a MacHeist bundle. Rubbish selection as well, why do people bother developing these feeble apps (iClip is almost useful the rest less so).
Ditto for me...Cha-Ching is the only thing that kinda stands out...everything else is a filler...
Cha-Ching was part of MHII, but is not one even of the apps I use from that bundle...neither are the two other "re-runs", Awaken or CoverSutra. Now, why would I buy a second copy of apps I don't even use...?
The only bright spot could be the referral prices, but if the bundle in itself doesn't improve greatly I don't see how I'm going to get 2, 3 or 4 other people to buy it when I don't even want it myself...
I bought the last MacHeist bundle in Dec./Jan. There's nothing in this one that I don't have already that really interests me. I think I'll pass this time and wait for MH III.
I think this is a great idea for people who don't have these apps and/or want some of them. Win/win/win for the buyers, MH peeps and developers, IMHO.
I think this is a great idea for people who don't have these apps and/or want some of them. Win/win/win for the buyers, MH peeps and developers, IMHO.
Interesting idea, having a retail boxed version of one of these bundles, for those not "tuned into the scene" or whatever. Vaguely reminds me of the old MUG shareware disks (as in floppy) that would get passed around way back when the Internet was more of a sci-fi plot device for anyone outside academia. For regular bundle-buyers not of much interest, but then you can't please everybody, and there are at least a couple of nifty things in there.
Question, though, for those praising Cha-ching: Is there something I'm missing? I got a license through the last MacHeist bundle, and while I liked the idea it seemed to be completely broken when I tried using it--the search and category sum features didn't work properly (as in, at all--it would ignore about half the stuff in any category I'd defined), and I'd already generated a corrupt entry in the database in like an hour of fiddling around.
Has an update fixed this stuff or something?
Question, though, for those praising Cha-ching: Is there something I'm missing? I got a license through the last MacHeist bundle, and while I liked the idea it seemed to be completely broken when I tried using it--the search and category sum features didn't work properly (as in, at all--it would ignore about half the stuff in any category I'd defined), and I'd already generated a corrupt entry in the database in like an hour of fiddling around.
Has an update fixed this stuff or something?
Not at all, it would have been pretty much if the original Stacks concept had arrived in Leopard, but Overflow allows one 'work' stack for example, with say Word, Excel, and a few documents from around your Hard Drive.
Cha-Ching was part of MHII, but is not one even of the apps I use from that bundle...neither are the two other "re-runs", Awaken or CoverSutra. Now, why would I buy a second copy of apps I don't even use...?
maybe its for people who didnt buy the previous two bundles?
but still you can do all that with stacks. just create a folder and drop in a ton of shortcuts.
Overflow obviously has the advantage/disadvantage that it only takes one place in the dock. It also stays on the left side of the separator with the applications instead of the right like stacks does
Totaltunes control also comes really close (uncanny even) to coversutra and is free
Way, way too much screeching going on in this thread. The Macheist offer is good for those, who missed it last time. I don't have a use for Pixelmator, for example, but I didn't see the value of whingeing about its being bundled with the other apps I bought last time around.
Xslimmer was given away free with the last Macheist puzzle. You could just visit the forum for the key, if you could not be bothered to do it yourself. That and the other freebie SofaControl are something I use all the time. No complaints from me.
Xslimmer was given away free with the last Macheist puzzle. You could just visit the forum for the key, if you could not be bothered to do it yourself. That and the other freebie SofaControl are something I use all the time. No complaints from me.
Read the first post, No referral links (..not that I'm bothered but hey..)
This really doesn't appeal to me, darwinian got a hole-in-one.
Oh and iClip? Err, Evernote ta.
This really doesn't appeal to me, darwinian got a hole-in-one.
Oh and iClip? Err, Evernote ta.
MacHeist
The upcoming Mac Update bundle looks much better, even if it is a little more expensive.
Jeff
The upcoming Mac Update bundle looks much better, even if it is a little more expensive.
Jeff
Agreed, but I'm currently at a dilemma
1. Buy the MU bundle (I have 1/3 of the apps)
2. Ignore MU and # 3
3. Buy a subscription here and support MR.
...
new ideas to add to the general discussion?
Hello,
I've read a lot of comments in several weblogs and they are pretty evenly split between rejection and consent of thie idea behind the new MacHeist-Bundle.
That's my I searched the web for more and I found a German application developer with a very fair approach and perhaps this adds some new ideas to the heatedly discussion in the commentary sections?
Michael writes at http://myownapp.com/ this statement:
"Every MOApp Application works without licenses, serial number and activations. That sort of nonsense only punishes the honest among us.
For that reason, there are no 10/20/30 days demos of my small apps. But they will only store the data as long as the application is running.
After you've purchased the applications you fully own them, without limitation.
I know that this is a compromise - but I think it is a good one, much like DRM-free music. "
And I find his licensing and prices very fair:
"You purchase once and will get free updates as long as MOApp ist not dead. You can use MOApp Applications on any Mac you own. [...]
It is explicitly allowed:
· to translate and customize all MOApp Applications.
· to use MOApp Applications on any Mac you own.
· to transfer MOApp Applications if you do not use them any more.
It is explicitly not allowed:
· to share MOApp Applications you have paid for with others."
I would like to know, what do you think about this approach regarding the intense discussion about free- and shareware, independent developers and MacHeist, etc.?
I'm curious to hear from you
Hello,
I've read a lot of comments in several weblogs and they are pretty evenly split between rejection and consent of thie idea behind the new MacHeist-Bundle.
That's my I searched the web for more and I found a German application developer with a very fair approach and perhaps this adds some new ideas to the heatedly discussion in the commentary sections?
Michael writes at http://myownapp.com/ this statement:
"Every MOApp Application works without licenses, serial number and activations. That sort of nonsense only punishes the honest among us.
For that reason, there are no 10/20/30 days demos of my small apps. But they will only store the data as long as the application is running.
After you've purchased the applications you fully own them, without limitation.
I know that this is a compromise - but I think it is a good one, much like DRM-free music. "
And I find his licensing and prices very fair:
"You purchase once and will get free updates as long as MOApp ist not dead. You can use MOApp Applications on any Mac you own. [...]
It is explicitly allowed:
· to translate and customize all MOApp Applications.
· to use MOApp Applications on any Mac you own.
· to transfer MOApp Applications if you do not use them any more.
It is explicitly not allowed:
· to share MOApp Applications you have paid for with others."
I would like to know, what do you think about this approach regarding the intense discussion about free- and shareware, independent developers and MacHeist, etc.?
I'm curious to hear from you
Hello,
I've read a lot of comments in several weblogs and they are pretty evenly split between rejection and consent of thie idea behind the new MacHeist-Bundle.
That's my I searched the web for more and I found a German application developer with a very fair approach and perhaps this adds some new ideas to the heatedly discussion in the commentary sections?
Michael writes at http://myownapp.com/ this statement:
"Every MOApp Application works without licenses, serial number and activations. That sort of nonsense only punishes the honest among us.
For that reason, there are no 10/20/30 days demos of my small apps. But they will only store the data as long as the application is running.
After you've purchased the applications you fully own them, without limitation.
I know that this is a compromise - but I think it is a good one, much like DRM-free music. "
And I find his licensing and prices very fair:
"You purchase once and will get free updates as long as MOApp ist not dead. You can use MOApp Applications on any Mac you own. [...]
It is explicitly allowed:
· to translate and customize all MOApp Applications.
· to use MOApp Applications on any Mac you own.
· to transfer MOApp Applications if you do not use them any more.
It is explicitly not allowed:
· to share MOApp Applications you have paid for with others."
I would like to know, what do you think about this approach regarding the intense discussion about free- and shareware, independent developers and MacHeist, etc.?
I'm curious to hear from you
Sounds like an advert from you and sounds like an annoying way of doing things. How would be ever keep track of things, or am I missing something?
I'm actually really glad they seem to be running out of useful apps. :}
These things shouldn't be such a regular occurance IMO - there aren't enough high quality apps with willing developers to go round..
Since the original Macheist I've ended up with a loooot of apps from these things, sometimes waiting until near the end of the bundle once extra stuff is unlocked. Many of those apps do end up unused, but some have been indispensable. (devonthink being one of those - i upgraded to the Pro version though!)
There's nothing visual-creative this time, whether to do with photos (fotomagico etc) art (pixelmator), video (that thing with the name I forget) etc. Seems they missed a really big chunk of the potential market?
Full screen text editor? .. Seriously? Anyone doing writing and needing such a feature would already be using Scrivener or StoryMill or one of the other dedicated text editors with this as an option?
These things shouldn't be such a regular occurance IMO - there aren't enough high quality apps with willing developers to go round..
Since the original Macheist I've ended up with a loooot of apps from these things, sometimes waiting until near the end of the bundle once extra stuff is unlocked. Many of those apps do end up unused, but some have been indispensable. (devonthink being one of those - i upgraded to the Pro version though!)
There's nothing visual-creative this time, whether to do with photos (fotomagico etc) art (pixelmator), video (that thing with the name I forget) etc. Seems they missed a really big chunk of the potential market?
Full screen text editor? .. Seriously? Anyone doing writing and needing such a feature would already be using Scrivener or StoryMill or one of the other dedicated text editors with this as an option?
Sounds like an advert from you and sounds like an annoying way of doing things. How would be ever keep track of things, or am I missing something?
I think you're just missing something. The author is giving you rights to do whatever you want with the application that you want, including giving it to others without paying him. He's counting on the goodness in people's hearts. That's not confusing; it's refreshing.
That being said, the MacHeist bundle is weak. Give me apps (or utilities) that I can't get in freeware versions. An iTunes controller? There are at least 5 widgets that do the same thing.
It's so funny, because I got it from the MacUpdate bundle when they had it, and I have never even opened it.
I want a bunch of apps though, but unfortunately, this bundle doesn't have any of them.
Oh, and that iClip clipboard feature has been around on PathFinder (replacement for Finder) for ages. Since it's also a good Finder replacement, it may be worth taking a look.
Sounds like an advert from you and sounds like an annoying way of doing things. How would be ever keep track of things, or am I missing something?
I'm not Michael from myownapp dot com, I'm a completely different person, who was just browsing through Google reader and following different discussions and commentars.
By incident I read about myownapp dot com and that webbrowser tab was just next to the tabs with the discussion about the new MacHeist project.
So it seemed just logical to add his approach to the discussion.
I'm not taking any position yet at the ongoing MacHeist discussion, because I want to hear what others think about all the different approaches with independat Mac OS application developers.
To me it seems to be the backbone in the ongoing MacHeist discussions (or should we say "flame wars"?) at various weblogs and forums including the macheist forum - but I beg your pardon and excuse, if I was wrong with that.
Paul.