It was introduced by Apple today. See http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/universal_binary/universal_binary.pdfBradley W said:
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Macintosh Moving to Intel Processors [Updated]
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So what about updating the macrumors buyers guide with status "Don't buy!!! Machine just deprecated" for all apple HW items? (xcep for iPod obviously).
Don't bash me, just making fun.....
Though would LOVE to see a Centrino based iBook!
And I also read the introduction to the Universal Binary thing pdf. It says:
"The term x86 is a generic term used throughout this book to refer to the class of microprocessors
manufactured by Intel. This book uses the term x86 as a synonym for IA-32 (Intel Architecture 32-bit)."
So what about 64 bit? When would that happen? Isn't the 32 to 64 bit actually an unfinished transition?
Don't bash me, just making fun.....
Though would LOVE to see a Centrino based iBook!
And I also read the introduction to the Universal Binary thing pdf. It says:
"The term x86 is a generic term used throughout this book to refer to the class of microprocessors
manufactured by Intel. This book uses the term x86 as a synonym for IA-32 (Intel Architecture 32-bit)."
So what about 64 bit? When would that happen? Isn't the 32 to 64 bit actually an unfinished transition?
I did not read through all 460+ posts. But can anyone tell me When apple will be coming out with one of these INTEL based machines. I was going to buy a new mac but now i am going to hold off for a while and see.
Will we see these new Intel based machines early next year?
Also why did the Apple stock go down?
Will we see these new Intel based machines early next year?
Also why did the Apple stock go down?
For those who think you can run Windows on a IntelMac, I doubt it. But, I think someone out there will write WINE for IntelMac and just run windows binaries instead of running windows, then the binary.
YES!!! Counter-Strike for Mac!!!
YES!!! Counter-Strike for Mac!!!
Dr.Gargoyle said:...and yet none seems to answer...??
Because they already know the answer. New software wil not be backward-compatible with our PPCs eventually.
Bradley W said:
Future development for the Mac platform for the forseeable future will result in Universal Binary. Just like back in the 68xxx->PPC transition (then called fat binaries). What it means is that the program works for both x86 and PPC. Totally transparent and the user won't notice anything.
200paul said:
P@ul...why still use Pro Tools?? They attempt to lock the end user into using their hardware interfaces, and IMHO, Pro Tools is the Micro$oft of the music software companies. Its very inflexable, not very happy working with other programs, and doesnt work as well as it should.
Why not Cubase or Logic?
And yes, it was said that Pro Tools would be fully supported when Tiger shipped, but who's fault is that, Apples or Pro Tools. Personally Digidesign really irked me when they did not offer a solution to upgrade older hardware interfaces from os 9 to os x unless you bought the new version of Pro Tools. bah!
listen
look, i like the idea of fast, cheap intels in macs as long as os x stays exclusive, but i have 2 negative points about intels:
1. they can't multitask for sh**
2. the pipelines are too long, so pentiums for example are marketing chips (i.e. they are designed to have a high ghz so intel can go 'look at us with are warp-speed chips') and long piplines are a serious bottle-neck in a system.
3. arn't the 32 bit, not 64 bit like the G5
just my opinion
of course, intel could be fabbing some new x86 chips for apple that have shorter pipelines and 64 bit.
Jesus
look, i like the idea of fast, cheap intels in macs as long as os x stays exclusive, but i have 2 negative points about intels:
1. they can't multitask for sh**
2. the pipelines are too long, so pentiums for example are marketing chips (i.e. they are designed to have a high ghz so intel can go 'look at us with are warp-speed chips') and long piplines are a serious bottle-neck in a system.
3. arn't the 32 bit, not 64 bit like the G5
just my opinion
of course, intel could be fabbing some new x86 chips for apple that have shorter pipelines and 64 bit.
Jesus
ICEBERG said:
1) We have no idea. My guess is early next year we will see the first intel-mac computer
2) My best guess is that wallstreet is was to conservative to see the good long term effects of this.
With this many posts it's going to be difficult for anybody to get noticed. Who is going to read through over 20 pages of forum? That's why we're getting the same questions asked and answered over and over again. Somebody needs to trawl through to create a super thread with all the answers, then lock and sticky it.
nitropowered said:
See link in beginning of thread. Apple wil not do anything to hinder you installing Windows on MacIntel. The Vice President said so himself (think it was the VP).
Abercrombieboy said:
I understand.
In the interview in question, the exact context of the question and answer left allot open. It didn't sound like a direct question on the PowerMac line, or the powerbook line, nor was the answer a direct no.
Steve also likes the element of suprise, and to mislead people. I highly doubt him misleading everyone in thinking the transition will be smooth would be a good idea.
I don't have blind faith for Steve but I do have faith in Apple developers, and the employes of Apple computer who want to continue to have a job in 2007 and 2008.
Student Developer Eligible for Developer Box?
I'm a student developer and was wondering if anyone knew if you could get the intel developer box for 999. The keynote said "select" or "premier". Also , does anyone possibly have a link to the specs of the machine? any help on this would be great.
I'm a student developer and was wondering if anyone knew if you could get the intel developer box for 999. The keynote said "select" or "premier". Also , does anyone possibly have a link to the specs of the machine? any help on this would be great.
ruud said:
Adobe and MS might release UBs for the foreseeable future, but who says the little developers, who really make the Mac experience will? I doubt they will continue to support PPC - they will move to Intel. Everyone trumpeting UB as the be all, end all solution doesn't understand. Why on Earth would people like the WeatherPop folks continue to invest in PPC? They won't: those little shareware developers are going to move to Intel - there is almost zero reason for them to invest the manhours into an antiquated platform.
Therefore, there's a good chance that software smaller than Office and Adobe's stuff (which, frankly, is just about everything else), this time next year, will be Intel focused.
The real question is what they will do in the meantime. They have a year in which Mac sales and sales of their software are going to plummit. I'm sure a lot of Mac developers and users are sick of these arbitrary shifts in core design.
I myself won't be buying a new PPC based machine, but if I can find an iBook on the cheap, will buy it and use it til the new Intel based machines come out.
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