macOS 10.15 Expected to Feature Standalone Music and Podcasts Apps and Redesigned Books App

[CarlJ]

I have a feeling that the music app will only be Apple Music, rather than allowing you to maintain your own library, ...

Are you suggesting that they will then also rip access to your own library out of the Music app on iOS? I expect the macOS Music app will follow along the lines of the existing one (presumably with some year-over-year improvements) that they ship on iOS.

 

[Internet Enzyme]

iTunes has sort of become a bloated, complicated mess. Very interested to see what they come up with.

As long as they retain the visualizer and metadata control with a mac-like customizable column sorting scheme i will be ok. Ill be disappointed if its just a shoddy ipad port, but thats the most likely scenario. I feel like ill end up stillusing itunes, even though i dont want to

 

[chucker23n1]

Rise of podcasts? They've been a serious thing for over a decade now.

I feel they've kind of seen a slow, steady growth. As for "over a decade", 5by5 (which seems like ancient history now) only launched in 2010, less than a decade ago.

 

[goobot]

Down goes another of apples “I” products and rise to their “Apple” ones.

 

[Mr Todhunter]

Wrong, I have it running now, you want it?

There are caveats though, like not able to use a current version Library, or opening it directly.

Screencapture in Zip file below, can't find a different way to upload right now.

OF COURSE I WANT IT!!! No caveats great enough. I'll be forever grateful if you let me now how.

 

[JosephAW]

I suppose that macOS 10.15 will not be available for my computer since they just obsoleted my mid 2012 non-retina MBP. Not that I would want it since they removed app support on 10.14 in iTunes. I'll stay with El Capitan until my new ARM MBP.

 

[alexhardaker]

The heavy stuff like app and OS updates get unpacked, so they are no longer in a sharable/verifiable format. There are caching servers that will serve up these resources locally, however - I believe the time capsule used to do this for instance.

Can you please explain what that meant. Sorry

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

I can't wait to see all of the wild and wonderful differences in the user interfaces of all of the new apps that each team comes up with.

Ironically, I think that's part of the problem with iTunes to begin with. 'Teams'. Too many cooks, and people doing a bad job making the product of each team talk to each other, and to the database.

 

[iRock1]

The new Music app will be nowhere close to iTunes in terms of features. It’s probable it’ll be a dumber, UI-stripped-down version of iTunes, just like happened with Final Cut 7 and X, or the old iWork vs the ****** one we have now.

Mark my words.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Everyone seems to be overthinking this. They will simply split out the apps and probably either have a "SYNC" button in each app for devices or a new SYNC app for the peasants who still choose to sync their device using a cord or for the 10 people that still use an old iPod.

Or they could to the nuclear option and completely kill all iPod support and wired syncing support.

But realistically they will probably have a sync app for older devices.

Or underthinking? At some point, the data needs to be combined, and separating the apps isn't going to lead to a 'smoothly operating' app structure. Pulling content from separate sources for use in an iPhone/iPad,iPod, isn't going to be easy. They are still left with a software mess that they have shown incapable of taming. It's going to be a bumpy road...

 

[chucker23n1]

Can you please explain what that meant. Sorry

An iOS restore from an iCloud backup these days involves two different things:

• restoring data from the backup
• restoring apps (from the App Store) and other content from Apple

The latter doesn't necessarily require downloading it from the Internet. You can set up a Mac to be a local caching server instead, making the setup much faster.

(I believe the former cannot be locally cached, but I'm not sure.)

 

[Internet Enzyme]

I remember the days when Mac OS updates were interesting. We talked about things like multitasking, 64-bit, Quartz Extreme, Fast User Switching, Expose, other GUI changes etc.
Now the big features are mainly service related...

Marzipan is literally a huge huge ****ing shift what are you talking about?! What about Metal? Handoff? APFS? T2?

 

[0958400]

iTunes has sort of become a bloated, complicated mess. Very interested to see what they come up with.

I sometimes have the same feelings about iOS. Apple used to be so clever in simplicity.

 

[Alwis]

Remembering what they did with Aperture when it was replaced by an useless application I am fearing the worst.

I don't like iTunes, but there is always a way to remove usefull features and make it worse...

 

[justperry]

OF COURSE I WANT IT!!! No caveats great enough. I'll be forever grateful if you let me now how.

What you need is iTunes 6, there's a few options, like getting it from a OS X Installer, that's overkill though as you need to download much more than needed.
I got mine from here: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/ipod-itunes-cd
Still overkill and you need Pacifist to extract iTunes from the installer.
I can send the App to you if you PM me.
That's not the end though, You can't just open the App normally, you need to option click the app to "Show package contents", next go to Contents/macos, open the file inside with terminal.
And, if that's not enough, the Library needs to be in your Documents folder, create a Folder inside Documents and name it "iTunes" without the quotes.
That's it.

 

[jonnyb098]

Or underthinking? At some point, the data needs to be combined, and separating the apps isn't going to lead to a 'smoothly operating' app structure. Pulling content from separate sources for use in an iPhone/iPad,iPod, isn't going to be easy. They are still left with a software mess that they have shown incapable of taming. It's going to be a bumpy road...

Not for me and millions of others who don't use iTunes on the mac nor connect to it for syncing. I haven't done an iTunes backup in at least 4 years.

 

[Frankied22]

Heres to hoping Apple really upgrades marzipan because right now the current marzipan apps, like Stocks and News, run like complete *******.

 

[BornAgainMac]

iTunes has sort of become a bloated, complicated mess. Very interested to see what they come up with.

I was still hoping they would include Garageband, iMovie, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote to the next iTunes.

 

[Mr Todhunter]

What you need is iTunes 6, there's a few options, like getting it from a OS X Installer, that's overkill though as you need to download much more than needed.
I got mine from here: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/ipod-itunes-cd
Still overkill and you need Pacifist to extract iTunes from the installer.
I can send the App to you if you PM me.
That's not the end though, You can't just open the App normally, you need to option click the app to "Show package contents", next go to Contents/macos, open the file inside with terminal.
And, if that's not enough, the Library needs to be in your Documents folder, create a Folder inside Documents and name it "iTunes" without the quotes.
That's it.

IT WORKED!!!! A million thanks

 

[NBAasDOGG]

Maybe they should also redesign the keyboard!

 

[Cmd-Z]

I was still hoping they would include Garageband, iMovie, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote to the next iTunes.

Yes! The ultimate one-stop software solution ... we could call it "42".

 

[justperry]

Well, I came as far as opening the iTunes file with terminal (I created the iTunes Folder in Documents) but the installer that comes up after I click on Agree gives this error message "The file "iTunes Library.itl" cannot be read because it was created by a newer version of iTunes".

As I said before, you need to create a new Itunes folder, if you have another one in that location that is in use by the newer version you need to open up the newer iTunes version one first and move it (The folder) to a different location, or just make a copy of it in case it doesn't work.

Edit: I am off to bed now, EU bed time.

 

[zunamo]

Why?

- Accessible from any device (just sign in, no need to have the app installed)
- Windows users will have the same experience
- Always instantly up to date

 

[ThisBougieLife]

I hope that the new Music app:

-retains the ability to put playlists in folders. So many music player apps do not allow for this. iTunes and MusicBee are two of the few and MusicBee is Windows only.
-doesn't bombard you with ads to subscribe to Apple Music constantly
-maintains the ability to edit Song Info in as many parameters as you can now
-retains access to the store (no need to have two separate apps like on iOS)

 

[JoeShades]

Yes, it will continue sucking.

LOL, actually it is not as bad as it once was