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macOS 10.15 Said to Feature 'Luna Display-Like' Desktop Extension Functionality
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If this can be remoted while away from your home wifi network it would be solid. There would be less of a requirement to run macOS natively on iOS, other than possibly speed (unless it will be a non-issue).
This might lure more digital artist who came from Cintiq as alternative. Harness the power of USB-C connection for ultra solid connection instead of flaky wireless.
Mini 2018 + iPad Pro 12 2018 looks good combo.
Mini 2018 + iPad Pro 12 2018 looks good combo.
I have been hoping for this. It would be a game changer for my work flow.
This actually makes me a bit sad because the Luna Display guys have been fantastic. They really built a great product. Depending on what Apple's final implementation of this is like, this could kill their business entirely.
On a side note, I can't believe it has taken Apple this long to implement a feature like this. If it worked natively like a true second display, I have to believe a lot more mobile road-warriors would be buying up iPads or maybe even joining the Apple ecosystem just for this feature. Luna Display is about 75% of the reason I have an iPad Pro.
On a side note, I can't believe it has taken Apple this long to implement a feature like this. If it worked natively like a true second display, I have to believe a lot more mobile road-warriors would be buying up iPads or maybe even joining the Apple ecosystem just for this feature. Luna Display is about 75% of the reason I have an iPad Pro.
I've always been curious why apple had not infused this sort of functionality into the Mac OS/iOS earlier. Third party solutions have filled the gap, but are buggy and not always so elegant.
It's just a natural thing to be able to use your iPad screen as an extension to say a laptop screen to have more space when working remotely or on the road.
I would go out the day after this feature hits and buy an iPad pro for the apple pencil macOS integration.
It's just a natural thing to be able to use your iPad screen as an extension to say a laptop screen to have more space when working remotely or on the road.
I would go out the day after this feature hits and buy an iPad pro for the apple pencil macOS integration.
About damn time, however:
1. It won't work for at least 25% of users for unknown reasons,
2. It will break core functionality of at least one other app (Mail, I'm looking at you!),
3. It will require at least one dongle, even for desktop systems.
1. It won't work for at least 25% of users for unknown reasons,
2. It will break core functionality of at least one other app (Mail, I'm looking at you!),
3. It will require at least one dongle, even for desktop systems.
WiFi and Bluetooth probably mean lag.
I hope they allow this over Lightning/USB-C.
Hopefully Apple can do it in such a way that means it will not lag significantly.
BTW, I suspect this means not only is macOS 10.15 required, so would iOS 13. So in turn what this means is the if we are lucky, the earliest Mac that would be supported would be from 2012 (or 2015 for the MacBooks), and the earliest iPads would be the iPad Air 2 or iPad mini 4 based on some iOS 13 compatibility predictions.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...quirements-speculation.2176294/#post-27255489
I hope they allow this over Lightning/USB-C.
Every year or two I'd think about buying one of the third party apps to do this, and then I'd read the reviews and confirm that they are either laggy/slow or buggy and I'd decide to hold off.
Hopefully Apple can do it in such a way that means it will not lag significantly.
BTW, I suspect this means not only is macOS 10.15 required, so would iOS 13. So in turn what this means is the if we are lucky, the earliest Mac that would be supported would be from 2012 (or 2015 for the MacBooks), and the earliest iPads would be the iPad Air 2 or iPad mini 4 based on some iOS 13 compatibility predictions.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...quirements-speculation.2176294/#post-27255489
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Lets see how smooth this performs before we predict the demise of Luna display. (Full disclosure, I own one). The biggest draw for me is the dongle that can be plugged into an eGPU (protip, get the mini dp rather than the USB-C adapter for way more options). Admittedly, the number of eGPU users is small but growing. The number of eGPU and Luna display users is even smaller, but those who do know its a great experience. Full fat GPU acceleration with all the trimmings.
Apple's future is wireless - I doubt very much this would be how it's implemented.
I think the reason it took so long is because the goal isn’t to just mirror, but to be able to hand off the entire application, and that becomes a lot more doable with marzipan and apps that have the same code on ipad and mac.
Give me an OEM solution to use an iPad w/ pencil as a graphics tablet, and then we've got something!
This is something that should be baked into the OS so I'm glad they're doing it. I've tried using apps like Duet Display but they cause a lot of glitches on the Mac nowadays. With USB-C on the iPad, it would be great to just use it as an external display using USB-C protocols for carrying video signals. But I'm not sure if that would relay Apple Pencil input, which would be fantastic. This also sounds like it will include Better Snap Tool (also included as a subset in BetterTouchTool) functionality as well, which would be great to have integrated at the system level. One less thing to maintain. If only they would give more control over mouse touch gestures at the system level…
"The report claims this functionality will be accessible via a new menu that can be opened by hovering over the green "maximize" button in a Mac app window for a split second.
The menu is expected to provide options for making windows full-screen, tiling windows, and moving windows to external displays."
I wonder if it will let you maximize a window? I rarely use full screen, however, I use maximized windows (maximum window size with dock and menu bar visible) everyday.
Differences between full screen and maximized window size:
Full Screen: Menu Bar and Dock hidden. To restore Menu Bar and Dock you must move the mouse pointer to the upper left corner of the screen, click the green button when it appears to restore the Menu and Dock.
Maximum Window Size - The menu bar and the dock remain visible.
The menu is expected to provide options for making windows full-screen, tiling windows, and moving windows to external displays."
I wonder if it will let you maximize a window? I rarely use full screen, however, I use maximized windows (maximum window size with dock and menu bar visible) everyday.
Differences between full screen and maximized window size:
Full Screen: Menu Bar and Dock hidden. To restore Menu Bar and Dock you must move the mouse pointer to the upper left corner of the screen, click the green button when it appears to restore the Menu and Dock.
Maximum Window Size - The menu bar and the dock remain visible.
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Apple's future is also USB-C. Remember, they introduced USB-C to the iPad just last year.
Ideal is do it right, not half-@ssed just for the sake of being wireless. Lag sucks when dealing with external screens. If Apple can do it lag-free over wireless then that's great, but I'm not optimistic. Remember, a 12.9" iPad Pro is 2732x2048. That's a higher resolution than most 27" monitors.
Bluetooth bandwidth is simply too low, and WiFi bandwidth depends on way too many factors. Imagine trying to do this over WiFi in a corner office far away from the access points, which are way too congested anyway. Wired solves all these problems. The current iPad Pros are USB-C, so such a wired connection is a true professional solution. The previous gen iPad Pros are Lightning, but they also support USB 3 with the proper Lightning cable, again a proper professional solution.
The other iPads including the latest iPad Air 3 and iPad mini 5 are only USB 2, but even that would probably be better than WiFi most of the time.
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What I don't understand is: if this could be an external display too... or if the iPad is used just like an external display (albeit with touch input... much like Duet) why would I need a function to "send any window of any app". Can't I just drag it over... like now?!
Why would his require a separate function?! This seems kinda counterintuitive.
Why would his require a separate function?! This seems kinda counterintuitive.
One doesnt preclude the other. “It will have this new feature” doesnt mean “it won’t also have other features”