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Craig mentioned something like this during the April Mac Pro roundtable last year. At least being able to use your iPad as a Wacom-style device. This must be what he is talking about.
 
Craig mentioned something like this during the April Mac Pro roundtable last year. At least being able to use your iPad as a Wacom-style device. This must be what he is talking about.
Do you mean the discussion in April 2017 (two years ago)? If so, I don’t think Craig said that, at least not in so many words. In response to the idea of making a Surface Studio-like Mac—he and Phil did say drawing is better on the iPad and that Mac and iPad should stay separate. Craig then added that people should feel free to use both, and that Apple is focused on making them work well together. His added remark could have been a foreshadow to this rumored feature, but then it also could have just been a general statement that we also know to be true.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/06/t...n-ternus-on-the-state-of-apples-pro-macs/amp/
 
Do you mean the discussion in April 2017 (two years ago)? If so, I don’t think Craig said that, at least not in so many words. In response to the idea of making a Surface Studio-like Mac—he and Phil did say drawing is better on the iPad and that Mac and iPad should stay separate. Craig then added that people should feel free to use both, and that Apple is focused on making them work well together. His added remark could have been a foreshadow to this rumored feature, but then it also could have just been a general statement that we also know to be true.
That is what I thinking. It was more of a "be nice" instead of "its' coming" but it got my attention.
 
I remember giving feedback to Apple once telling them that we should be able to use our iPads a drawing tablet for Mac. Guess they finally listened :)
 
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They already did with with Flashlight on iOS, and QRCode scanners... Dismay to the poor developers who are probably not getting enough money from these apps alone.

Now MacOS extends this to "Duet Display" type. Its got its part of the OS, but putting pressure on developers too, since that's one the whole reason you'd used these apps,
 
Yeah I was thinking about that too. Would be awesome to use the pencil for whiteboarding during video conferences. I actually bought a small wacom tablet only for that.
I was thinking about buying a Wacom. This news might save me money. But honestly I don’t have confidence that Apple would deliver user experience at par with Wacom. Apple updates have been buggy recently.
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I remember giving feedback to Apple once telling them that we should be able to use our iPads a drawing tablet for Mac. Guess they finally listened :)
It’s puzzling why Apple has delayed this feature for so long. Anyway it’s welcomed. I hope there are more cross integrations in their pipeline.
 
Users with an iPad that supports Apple Pencil will be able to draw with the Pencil when the iPad is being used as an external display for the Mac, effectively "turning the iPad into a Wacom-like tablet," according to the report.

Then what we need next is larger iPads to compete with the Wacom Cintiqs and the Dell Canvas.
The Cintiqs are still off-putting to me because of the large gap between the tip of the stylus on the glass, and the screen where the appear.

Harness the power of USB-C connection for ultra solid connection instead of flaky wireless.

Mini 2018 + iPad Pro 12 2018 looks good combo.

^^This is of paramount importance.
 
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damn. hope this is true, have been dreaming of a native solution, tried Astropad, Duet, YamPad, and they are nice but neither takes advantage of the USB 3.1 GEN2 Speeds ...
 
There are also indications (stroughton smith) that you’ll be able to combine with handoff-like functionality. In other words, when working with an app on the mac, send it to your iPad, and it can actually launch the ipad version of the app and populate it with the app state so you can keep working on your ipad without being anywhere near the mac. With marzipan, many ipad apps will be identical code to their mac versions, which will make this much easier for developers to support.


I am not criticizing this feature, but I am curious as to why it would be needed. Why not just either only own a laptop or only own an iPad? Isn't a given project easily done on either one?

Don't get me wrong: such a feature would facilitate the owning and using of two different computers; however, regardless, it's still simpler to own and operate one machine than to have two separate machines. Up until very recently, I daily-drove a 2009 Mac Pro and a 2012 rMBP. Now that I have temporarily set the Mac Pro aside and have been docking the MacBook Pro on a Tb display, I've enjoyed having my desktop at home be the same exact portable that I have with me while I am on-the-go. My workflow has been sped up quite a bit because I don't have to replicate on my desktop what I had done during the day on my laptop.

I feel as though, now, I could only vouch for using more than one machine if both machines were to share the exact same desktop as one another—all my preferences, files, etc. It would have to be completely seamless, as though I had cloned one drive to the other.
[doublepost=1555524648][/doublepost]This is pretty good! Split View's functionality is awful; I hope that these new features make 3rd-party window-management programs obsolete!
 
I am not criticizing this feature, but I am curious as to why it would be needed. Why not just either only own a laptop or only own an iPad? Isn't a given project easily done on either one?

Don't get me wrong: such a feature would facilitate the owning and using of two different computers; however, regardless, it's still simpler to own and operate one machine than to have two separate machines. Up until very recently, I daily-drove a 2009 Mac Pro and a 2012 rMBP. Now that I have temporarily set the Mac Pro aside and have been docking the MacBook Pro on a Tb display, I've enjoyed having my desktop at home be the same exact portable that I have with me while I am on-the-go. My workflow has been sped up quite a bit because I don't have to replicate on my desktop what I had done during the day on my laptop.

I feel as though, now, I could only vouch for using more than one machine if both machines were to share the exact same desktop as one another—all my preferences, files, etc. It would have to be completely seamless, as though I had cloned one drive to the other.
[doublepost=1555524648][/doublepost]This is pretty good! Split View's functionality is awful; I hope that these new features make 3rd-party window-management programs obsolete!

Not all macs are laptops.
 
I am not criticizing this feature, but I am curious as to why it would be needed. Why not just either only own a laptop or only own an iPad? Isn't a given project easily done on either one?

Don't get me wrong: such a feature would facilitate the owning and using of two different computers; however, regardless, it's still simpler to own and operate one machine than to have two separate machines. Up until very recently, I daily-drove a 2009 Mac Pro and a 2012 rMBP. Now that I have temporarily set the Mac Pro aside and have been docking the MacBook Pro on a Tb display, I've enjoyed having my desktop at home be the same exact portable that I have with me while I am on-the-go. My workflow has been sped up quite a bit because I don't have to replicate on my desktop what I had done during the day on my laptop.

I feel as though, now, I could only vouch for using more than one machine if both machines were to share the exact same desktop as one another—all my preferences, files, etc. It would have to be completely seamless, as though I had cloned one drive to the other.
Eh? Sure, it would be ideal if we all could get by with one device, but people have a myriad of different needs, and one device can’t meet them all. For some maybe. For others it’s either impossible or possible but would be a significantly worse experience than having multiple devices that are designed to work together as seamlessly as possible.
 
If this can be remoted while away from your home wifi network it would be solid. There would be less of a requirement to run macOS natively on iOS, other than possibly speed (unless it will be a non-issue).

For remoting there are solutions for that already. Even with mouse support.

I suspect Apple will not provide remoting to MacOS from the iPad natively. They just recently removed the back to my Mac feature (that never worked well for me)
 
Eh? Sure, it would be ideal if we all could get by with one device, but people have a myriad of different needs, and one device can’t meet them all. For some maybe. For others it’s either impossible or possible but would be a significantly worse experience than having multiple devices that are designed to work together as seamlessly as possible.

Well, what would be the reason for owning both an iPad and a MacBook Pro?
 
Well, what would be the reason for owning both an iPad and a MacBook Pro?

I have a 15" 2016 MBP and a 2015 12.9" IPP.

The iPad Pro I leave the house with more than the MBP. If I want to write, draw, take notes, or edit photos (as long as I don't need my Topaz labs filters) while I am away from my MBP it is great. It is light, thin, and powerful . I also don't feel I need to fret over it with the keyboard issues.

The Mac I need if there isn't a tool available while I am on the road. Like Tableau, the full version of Scrivener or Word.

I would not want to bring my MBP with me all the time. I keep my Apple Smart Keyboard attached, so I flip it between tablet mode and laptop mode all the time.
 
Well, what would be the reason for owning both an iPad and a MacBook Pro?
Again, there are a myriad of different reasons for different people, but the most basic reason is probably power vs portability. Some people need the power of a 15” MacBook Pro on one day (running heavy duty programs that don’t exist on ios, multiple monitors, time machine incremental backups, etc.), and the portability of an 11” iPad Pro the next day (lightweight device on the go, able to use while standing, writing notes, drawings, etc).
They do different things and have different strengths. Which device(s) one needs is simply dictated by one’s needs. It doesn’t even have to be a MacBook and an iPad. Some people need two MacBooks—perhaps a 15” and 12”. Some need two iPads—perhaps 12.9” and 7.9”. Some more than two.
 
There are also indications (stroughton smith) that you’ll be able to combine with handoff-like functionality. In other words, when working with an app on the mac, send it to your iPad, and it can actually launch the ipad version of the app and populate it with the app state so you can keep working on your ipad without being anywhere near the mac. With marzipan, many ipad apps will be identical code to their mac versions, which will make this much easier for developers to support.

I don't keep all my iWork documents in iCloud but I would love to be able to seamlessly add a sketch with the pencil/iPad. At the moment, saving to iCloud, opening on iPad, etc, is not fast enough to make it an automatic decision (I'll tend to think of a quicker alternative). I guess I see it working more like a VNC extra display, but not slow and clunky like most VNC solutions.

Make it work as fast and seamlessly as continuity camera and I am sold!
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Well, what would be the reason for owning both an iPad and a MacBook Pro?
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[doublepost=1558007063][/doublepost]So with Marzipan and more Apple Pencil usage gracing cross-platform apps like iWork, how long until MacOS supports an actual touch-enabled primary display? I know that the ergonomics are wrong and in most cases keyboard/mouse/touchpad will be faster, but for occasional sketching with an Apple Pencil it would be quite cool. I guess the Marzipan apps lend themselves to touch with their iOS controls, so maybe a touch screen is on the way?

Perhaps the new Mac Pro displays and MacBook Pros will support touch? Like every other Windows PC, but implemented really well?
 
I use Duet Display, but I use it with an iPad 2 that runs whatever old version of iOS, so assuming that wont work with this - but duet display has been great (and works on windows)

That's what I use, was wondering what the fuss was about, and I don't need to take up a port on my computer. Although I find Duet runs poorly but that's probably because I'm using an older Macbook Pro with a high resolution iPad. I just turned the resolution down. I used Duet as my work set up for several months when I was working in a dealership. Their computers were barely fast enough to run the phone management software and we didn't have dual screens. Thank goodness all the stuff we use is web based so I could work from my Mac while leaving my pc just for phone related tasks.
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damn. hope this is true, have been dreaming of a native solution, tried Astropad, Duet, YamPad, and they are nice but neither takes advantage of the USB 3.1 GEN2 Speeds ...

Mind you it is still working via Wifi, still limited by those speeds.
 
Well... Catalina only achieved what's called 'Side Car'—that's it. No improved window-management functions, as far as I can tell. What a shame.
 
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