macOS 11 Big Sur on Unsupported Macs Thread

[ScreenSavers]

I’m here and ready for testing. Excited to see what old macs can be made to run macOS 11!

 

[iamMacPerson]

Interesting. Then I wonder why the iMac 2013 was dropped, since that had Nvidia and is definitely more powerful than a MacBook Air 2013.

Must be the Haswell CPU requirement. Fwiw it also supports the late-2013 Retina which also had GT650M graphics

 

[redheeler]

Must be the Haswell CPU requirement. Fwiw it also supports the late-2013 Retina which also had GT650M graphics

The Late 2013 iMacs have Haswell also.

 

[oldmacs]

MacOS support is completely arbitrary at this point. I miss when there was some kind of reason to justify dropping the older models.

Ugh it pisses me off. The Mid 2012 MacBook Pro was still being sold in September 2016.

Apple can blab on about environmental concerns, but when they go around arbitrarily cutting off Macs they are doing the exact opposite.

 

[Ternary]

The Late 2013 iMacs have Haswell also.

That's what's confusing about all of this and why I mistakenly thought all Nvidia Macs got cut.

 

[iamMacPerson]

The Late 2013 iMacs have Haswell also.

Then I really don't know. I didn't realize the iMacs got the Haswell upgrade in 2013. I thought it wasn't until 2014 but you're right.

 

[Pman17]

I hope someone can get this to run on the 2012 Retina. Now I don't want to buy a $3600 Intel.

 

[oldmacs]

I really hope this will run on the Mid 2012 MacBook Pro. Last MacBook which was upgradable or repairable.

 

[redheeler]

That's what's confusing about all of this and why I mistakenly thought all Nvidia Macs got cut.

Then I really don't know. I didn't realize the iMacs got the Haswell upgrade in 2013. I thought it wasn't until 2014 but you're right.

Hopefully it's a mistake on the website because there's no reason to support the mid 2014 low-cost model and not the late 2013. But we'll see. There's just no telling with Apple.

 

[iamMacPerson]

I hope someone can get this to run on the 2012 Retina. Now I don't want to buy a $3600 Intel.

I'm sure dosdude will figure something out once the code is released. Personally I would just hold your current machine and survive on the security updates until ARM Macs come out. At this point buying an Intel Mac would be like buying a PPC machine in 2006.

 

[tkukoc]

My Mac Mini L2013 unsupported.. ah well figured at some point it wouldn't be. With an SSD and 16gb of ram it still runs like a champ.

 

[FlorisVN]

I think macos kernel now requirs intel avx2 instructions, which will leave behind lot's of olds mac now for good im afraid.

 

[iamMacPerson]

Hopefully it's a mistake on the website because there's no reason to support the mid 2014 low-cost model and not the late 2013. But we'll see. There's just no telling with Apple.

I recall Mojave originally dropping the 2012 cheese grater and Apple later coming and re-adding it a few days later and that's why the first couple betas couldn't be run on it.

 

[Rob1n]

I am here for testing too, I have a macbook pro 17 inch 2008, macbook pro 15 inch 2011, mac pro 2008 with a nvidia gt 640 gpu and some spare hard drives 🙂. (all currently running mojave)


Btw, is there a way to run 32 bit apps on catalina or newer? I have the adobe creative suite cs5 that I want to be able to run before switching to big sur on all my devices.

 

[ASentientBot]

http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/15/52/001-18401-A_I5FFC1VB5J/rrfxkhkf3ykxzj3zjshu1srsh4n74a41n4/InstallAssistant.pkg

 

[lulujyc]

hmmm goodbye 2012 ivy bridge machines... they should be working fine theoretically but well apple just want to drop support for business reasons

 

[vickysud]

http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/15/52/001-18401-A_I5FFC1VB5J/rrfxkhkf3ykxzj3zjshu1srsh4n74a41n4/InstallAssistant.pkg

what is this ??

 

[ASentientBot]

what is this ??

Presumably the beta installer. I found it on the software catalog.

https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-10.16seed-10.16-10.15-10.14-10.13-10.12-10.11-10.10-10.9-mountainlion-lion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz

Interestingly, the whole OS installer to be in one package now. No more re-assembling from InstallESD/RecoveryHDMeta?

 

[jackluke]

Presumably the beta installer. I found it on the software catalog.

https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-10.16seed-10.16-10.15-10.14-10.13-10.12-10.11-10.10-10.9-mountainlion-lion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz

Interestingly, the whole OS installer to be in one package now. No more re-assembling from InstallESD/RecoveryHDMeta?

Do they dropped also the BaseSystem.dmg ?

I mean from there can notice if they dropped kext extensions.

 

[scrub10rd]

supported list for macOS 11 on the bottom https://www.apple.com/macos/big-sur-preview/

 

[Adamscomputerrepair]

2010 MacBook Pro. On its last legs, but standing by nonetheless.

 

[fdolbec123]

Any idea if BootCamp will work with their custom silicon mac?

 

[SGN]

Macbook Pro 13'' Mid 2012 Ready for testing! Will probably not upgrade past this though, I feel like Big Sur is the proper OS to stay on with it's redesign. Do you guys think the Big Sur patcher will be available Day 1 or a few weeks/months after the official release date?

 

[CharlieRuiz97]

Can't wait to install Big Sur on my mid 2010 whitebook... You can do it @dosdude1 you can make us the miracle as every year and thanks to you and to the ones that help to make this possible

 

[lunarworks]

According to what's new, 11.0 will have a cryptographically signed system volume. Unless there's a system level toggle, that may present a challenge.