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Can we just get an option to drop the menu bar below the notch! It's really a mess still! The size of this notch was just not needed! Apple missed it big time.

I'll give up the so called extra space for a flat menu bar edge with the full width of the display can offer.
Use SwitchResX or EasyRes and you can recreate the top bezel
 
What's funny here is that the screen is larger than the standard ratio to fit that entire bar that would have been a bezel...then the notch was added to that...along with a webcam better than any other you're going to find in a laptop. Even if it was a broken webcam that didn't work, you'd still have more space than if they didn't create that bar.
The extra 48 rows of pixels (24 rows at retina scaling) gained is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
 
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Yep...this was the first thing I noticed.

It just feels like the software department isn't talking to hardware.

Deliberate to ensure users are aware the menu bar is still one long strip, not divided in half (which might lead to people thinking left = app menu, right = system menu).
 
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Still isn't clear to me -- do devs need to update apps to prevent menus (File, Edit, etc) from disappearing under the notch? The system doesn't scootch them over automatically?
The article appears to be saying that devs of each app have to manually program to allow for the notch. Absolute insanity if so. But I wouldn't at all be surprised with the current incompetent Apple software division.
 
what is the “solution” in this version?. It is not clear how is fixing the OS this situation in this version. Developers need to do a new GUI? Or what?. That was the “solution” before, no?. Please someone, elaborate.
 
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I have faced a weird issue on my menu bar from 12.0.1. When I connect my external monitor, and switch back the menu bar icons are somehow spaced out with a lot of gap area and they reach the notch.

See attached. Anyone else facing this or has a fix?

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And this is how it looks after it fixes itself once I close an app and remove an icon.

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Yep... finally, someone else...
 
My only gripe is that the menu bar hangs lower pass the bottom of notch. It should be on point with the notch.

Jony Ive wouldn't allowed this.
I’m assuming that was a conscious design decision so that it’s clear to the user that the menu bar is one contiguous strip instead of two separate strips. This is important as menu items that run out of room can jump from one side to the other.

Also, Jony Ive allowed the hockey puck iMac G3 mouse, the buttonless iPod Shuffle, and butterfly keyboards, among other design horrors.
 
Yep...this was the first thing I noticed.

It just feels like the software department isn't talking to hardware.
They obviously did it on purpose. They didn’t completely redesign the menu bar and accidentally make it too tall. It just doesn’t look good
 
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You sure about that?
Or this....
 

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Can someone show us how this fix works in practice?

Yep, shouldn’t expect the info to be in the article itself. It’s how discussions are generated - relay inadequate information so people have to ask and wait.

Disclaimer: In no way is this a commentary on the ‘editorial quality’ of articles on MacRumors website. I’m speaking about how I think discussions are generated.
 
Still isn't clear to me -- do devs need to update apps to prevent menus (File, Edit, etc) from disappearing under the notch? The system doesn't scootch them over automatically?
No. Menus were already handled. It was the system icons on the right side that did not wrap properly when you have a boatload of them.

Best just to get BarTender to handle the overflow anyway. Much better way to manage those icons.
 
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My only gripe is that the menu bar hangs lower pass the bottom of notch. It should be on point with the notch.

Jony Ive wouldn't allowed this.
No, Ive would have understood the design issues caused by having the notch exactly line up with the bottom of the menu bar.

Doing so would have made the notch appear larger than it is. By having the menu line outside the notch, it makes the notch look just a little smaller.

When you have a line intersect a curve on a tangent, it can cause some strange visual distortions that make it look bent. You should intersect at a non-tangent angle or pass outside the edge of the curve.

These are just some of the subtle things about how the human visual system that graphic designers need to be trained to watch for and to adjust designs to avoid these problems.
 
That’s really great ? how about they fix broken USB C hub support for M1 MacBook Pros!!!

I think that’s a little bit more important than fixing the notch….
 
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... What's wrong with the webcam? It's been reviewed as one of the highest quality on the market?
Agree, it looks great to me (vs my olde 2013 mac) and its low light performance is also good.
 
BT Trackpad fixed finally? And what about tab groups in Safari randomly refreshing (so you end up without newly opened tabs or your recently closed tabs reappear even though you only use one device at that time, so refresh really does not make any sense)

Edit: And HomePods and AirPods? They only work on iOS/iPadOS devices
 
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There was no need for the ugly notch when the webcam is so bad if it was amazing then I would be happy with it, the webcam is terrible quality so it could of been in the small bezel like on dell
The new webcam is excellent, I have one. I have the best-looking video of anyone I videoconference with now, other than people who use dedicated external DSLRs or high-end mirrorless cameras. The light sensitivity is excellent -- I now get workable shots in darker conditions, and it's great. Yes, it still does better with more light -- yay physics.
 
When clicking on a menu bar icon and moving the mouse over the menu commands, why is the highlight color different from the highlight color in the standard File, Edit, etc menus? Where is the consistency?
 
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