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Pretty crazy that this just sat there broken and there was no rush to fix it. Shows you the way people use computers now has really changed in favor of cloud vs LANs.
Sharing files over cloud to computers that you have on local network is a waste of time and nonsensical. It’s like sending something via FedEx to the person in the room next to yours.
 
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That's not how it works. QA's job is to find issues, not fix them.

Blaming QA for buggy software is a very real misunderstanding of how software engineering works.
What he was referring too, QA obviously did not discover the bugs, therefore the bugs ended up in our systems. If by chance QA did find report the bugs and nothing done, that’s an executive decision.
 
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Sharing files over cloud to computers that you have on local network is a waste of time and nonsensical. It’s like sending something via FedEx to the person in the room next to yours.

Exactly. And Apple, like too many companies, forgets that a lot of us (millions in the US - no idea for global) have only low-speed internet options (mine is only 7mbps download via CenturyLink's cr*p DSL) making cloud transfer to other machines in the home or office impossible, besides being an utterly stupid solution to not having LAN file sharing work at all.

How many people have spent countless hours trying to get file sharing to work with Ventura, including the trick of purging extended attributes from shared folders (and whatever loss of functionality comes with that)? Apple should be so ashamed. With their massive spaceship campus, they seriously didn't have any developer(s) dedicated to networking to detect their epic fail during beta, much less all release versions to date?
 
Hope they also fix the freezing Touch Bar emoji button on the M1 MacBook Pro. Ridiculous that that basic functionality breaks constantly.
 
My issue is that my 10GB ethernet connection to my Synology DS1621+ keeps losing connection over ethernet and then connects via wifi. When it does that, I can't take advantage of the fast transfer speed with a direct ethernet connection and have to use a slow wifi connection to my server. It's ridiculous. Then I have to reboot everything and hope that my ethernet connection to my MacBook holds. Hopefully, this update will fix it. Who knows.
I sincerely doubt this issue is related. What are using to for a 10Gb ethernet adapter on you're macbook? That is likely the problem. Those TB3 to 10Gb adapters are not the most stable. They often need to be unplugged and plugged back in from the TB side.
 
I'm more curious whether they will give us a multipath SMB SERVER in the next big OS release.
We have multipath SMB client today, which I guess is useful and fine if you are connecting to Windows corporate infrastructure, but it would be nice if SOHO Apple-only networks could also get an SMB speed boost by being able to use ethernet and WiFi in parallel.
Apple really have abandoned any server functionality, they surrendered everything to Microsoft and NAS vendors.
 
Pretty crazy that this just sat there broken and there was no rush to fix it. Shows you the way people use computers now has really changed in favor of cloud vs LANs.
I think it shows why Apple got out of the server product market -- they have no desire to support a server product.

Imagine if MS put out an update that broke Windows file sharing in their server product! Millions of businesses would crash and burn. Think MS would have taken weeks to fix it?

Apple thinks no one uses file sharing for anything important so they just "get around to it" then when can.
 
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80% of the SMB problems was due to having custom icons associated with SMB shares. If they would have just published that, most of the headaches could have been avoided. It took me forever to figure that out.
 
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How about fixing keep network access wake when unplugged. With new Mac os, my plex server shuts down when unplugged after few minutes if i dont wake my macbook up.
 
Great, but what about the File Sharing bug (remains on or off as it was before, and cannot be changed by the user in System Preferences) of macOS 10.15.7 (19H1922) Catalina that was not fixed in the latest macOS 10.15.7 (19H2026). Some Macs cannot be upgraded beyond Catalina. Apple created such bug in May 2022 and should fix it.
 
Maybe i am a lucky one ? Never had any Prolems with sharing on Ventura MBA M2 as well as the Hackintosh also in the Beta Phase.

Using Sharing between Ventura Ubuntu Debian Windows 11 Windows 10 BigSur both directions with no Problems at all, anywhay if using Wlan or cheap USB-ETH Adapter and so on.

Also heave read that changing ip to manually had fixed many 10GB related issues with many Error Packet Loss rates.

Sometimes i think the reason might be that i am updating instantly, Version after Version and not making bigger Version hops.

Only Problem i had was Searching in specific Folder and Outlook which i solved, but not with mdutil -E and all the Page long Tips from years ago on the net that did nothing for me, it was:

Open Finder and go to Applications - Utilities - Terminal and type the following commands (Press Enter after typing each command).
Note: When prompted for a password, please type the Mac user password. This would be invisible. Please type the same and hit enter.

Bash:
sudo mdutil -a -i off
Bash:
sudo mdutil -a -i on

Once done, restart the Mac computer.

Checking Indexing Status open Spotlight ( cmd + space ) type indexing:
Image

-a
Apply command to all stores on all volumes.
-i (on|off) Turn indexing on or off.

but then indexing for preboot was off what can be fixed with:

Code:
sudo mdutil -X /System/Volumes/Preboot

Once done, restart the mac computer.

Control with:

Bash:
sudo mdutil -sa

should look like:

Bash:
➜  ~ sudo mdutil -sa
Password:
/:
    Indexing enabled.
/System/Volumes/Data:
    Indexing enabled.
/System/Volumes/Preboot:
    Indexing enabled.



So it may be also fixed with a more precise approach:

Bash:
sudo mdutil -i off /System/Volumes/Data

Bash:
sudo mdutil -i on /System/Volumes/Data
 
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Apple really have abandoned any server functionality, they surrendered everything to Microsoft and NAS vendors.
That's a dumb statement that completely misses the point.
OBVIOUSLY Apple ship an SMB server in every Mac; that's how one side of SMB file sharing works!
 
That's a dumb statement that completely misses the point.
OBVIOUSLY Apple ship an SMB server in every Mac; that's how one side of SMB file sharing works!
Clearly they don’t care much about the server functionality or they would have fixed it before now. Mind you, even their SAMBA client can be ropey. Apart from home environments who even uses macs for file sharing these days? Apple are too focused on selling iCloud to invest time and effort on file sharing at all, as an example, have Apple even attempted to fix the files app on iOS? It still can’t copy files from servers without locking up the device. Sums up their network team to a T.

I love Apple kit and only use Apple devices, iPhone, iPad, MacBook etc but I know where they lack functionality and it’s been a long time since I used anything Apple for network infrastructure and data storage because they just are unreliable.
 
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Clearly they don’t care much about the server functionality or they would have fixed it before now. Mind you, even their SAMBA client can be ropey. Apart from home environments who even uses macs for file sharing these days? Apple are too focused on selling iCloud to invest time and effort on file sharing at all, as an example, have Apple even attempted to fix the files app on iOS? It still can’t copy files from servers without locking up the device. Sums up their network team to a T.

I love Apple kit and only use Apple devices, iPhone, iPad, MacBook etc but I know where they lack functionality and it’s been a long time since I used anything Apple for network infrastructure and data storage because they just are unreliable.
I am using many Operating Systems and i mainly use the Ventura smb on my MBA M2 to access from:
  • Ubuntu / UTM M2 / Hyper-V Windows 11 / Many VM´s on both Systems
  • Debian / UTM M2 / Hyper-V Windows 11
  • Windows11 / UTM M2 / Many Windows 11 PC / Laptops
  • Windows10 / 2 Laptops
  • OS X 10.7 / UTM M2
  • BigSur / MacPro 6,1
  • Monterey / Hackintosh Z490
cause it is reliable and allways works, also can access the Windows shares from Ventura/Monterey/BigSur reliable but not as reliable from another Windows + Unix/Linux to Windows, let that sink in.

For OS 9 on UTM i Use Quick FTP on Ventura and NetworkManager on OS 9 or Transmit.
 
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Clearly they don’t care much about the server functionality or they would have fixed it before now. Mind you, even their SAMBA client can be ropey. Apart from home environments who even uses macs for file sharing these days? Apple are too focused on selling iCloud to invest time and effort on file sharing at all, as an example, have Apple even attempted to fix the files app on iOS? It still can’t copy files from servers without locking up the device. Sums up their network team to a T.

I have no idea if you are a troll, or just extremely ignorant.
"Who uses file sharing these days?" I mean, what sort of a question is this? If you don't use file sharing all the time then perhaps you're not the demographic that should be holding an opinion about it?

And what's with the "Apart from home environments"? Like that's where Apple sells most of their kit, FFS.

To answer your question, uses of file sharing include
- someone with multiple macs (like myself)
- someone doing Time Machine backups to a second machine (like myself)
- people working on a common project in the same office (like my artist friend)
 
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Who cares about important computing tasks like network connectivity when you can enjoy the delights of a diverse cast of emojis...
 
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