Most likely? Do you have a source?I'll make the switch at 13.5. 14 will most likely be apple silicon only. no intel.
I'll make the switch at 13.5. 14 will most likely be apple silicon only. no intel.
Just seeing this post now, but I can second that there were plenty of WindowServer crashes earlier on, and from what I could tell it was just a matter of some apps being updated AND Apple fixing some stuff..Thanks for this -- this is good news!
At least you've got an old version OS-Ladenprogrammversion!About the firmware version: I didn't update to macOS 13.4 but my firmware says 8422.121.1. How is this possible that the firmware is updated even if im still on 13.3.1?
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Just seeing this post now, but I can second that there were plenty of WindowServer crashes earlier on, and from what I could tell it was just a matter of some apps being updated AND Apple fixing some stuff..
macOS 13.4 has been A O K for me
Yes, for sure.Is it possible for Apple to fix problems (such as the external monitor problems) with 13.4 and not mention those fixes in the release notes ?
Meaning, they fixed a problem without acknowledging that problem existed ?
When I was involved in software development and maintenance, we'd sometimes intentionally fix an issue but not realise that we'd fixed other issues at the same time. At least, not immediately. And especially not if they were difficult to test and maybe only rarely occurred.Is it possible for Apple to fix problems (such as the external monitor problems) with 13.4 and not mention those fixes in the release notes ?
Meaning, they fixed a problem without acknowledging that problem existed ?
I use Logitech Pebble M350 on both M1 mac mini and M1 MBP - no issues with Bluetooth since update (or before, for that matter!)updated to Mac OS Vetura 13.4 (22F66). I have a problem with bluetooth and the Logitech MX master 3S mouse again, after coming out of sleep, the pointer slows down and moves a little jerkily (Only a reboot via the sudo pkill bluetoothd command helps, It used to be like this, but in the previous version everything was fine. I have a Mac studio computer
Date/Time: 2023-05-23 23:03:47.605 -0700
End time: 2023-05-23 23:06:54.584 -0700
OS Version: macOS 13.4 (Build 22F66)
Architecture: x86_64h
Report Version: 40
Incident Identifier: ACC2A947-D957-4AAB-94C7-D9E4CF635FB8
Data Source: Microstackshots
Shared Cache: 867BF49E-1375-3009-9693-A1621961928A slid base address 0x7ff80b406000, slide 0xb406000
Command: WindowServer
Path: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SkyLight.framework/Versions/A/Resources/WindowServer
Codesigning ID: com.apple.WindowServer
Resource Coalition ID: 143
Architecture: x86_64
Parent: launchd [1]
PID: 159
Event: wakeups
Action taken: none
Wakeups: 45001 wakeups over the last 187 seconds (241 wakeups per second average), exceeding limit of 150 wakeups per second over 300 seconds
Wakeups limit: 45000
Limit duration: 300s
Wakeups caused: 45001
Wakeups duration: 187s
Duration: 186.98s
Duration Sampled: 183.22s
Steps: 68
Hardware model: MacPro7,1
Active cpus: 24
HW page size: 4096
VM page size: 4096
Fan speed: 502 rpm
Advisory levels: Battery -> 3, User -> 2, ThermalPressure -> 0, Combined -> 2
Free disk space: 1447.97 GB/1863.39 GB, low space threshold 3072 MB
Vnodes Available: 23.95% (63018/263168)
Preferred User Language: en-US
Country Code: US
Keyboards: U.S.
OS Cryptex File Extents: 1
Heaviest stack for the target process:
6 start + 1903 (dyld + 25631) [0x7ff80b4a441f]
6 ??? (WindowServer + 13452) [0x10fbcf48c]
6 ??? (SkyLight + 3254343) [0x7ff810787847]
6 ??? (SkyLight + 3254766) [0x7ff8107879ee]
6 ??? (SkyLight + 3252127) [0x7ff810786f9f]
5 ??? (SkyLight + 3253019) [0x7ff81078731b]
5 ??? (SkyLight + 2994210) [0x7ff810748022]
5 ??? (SkyLight + 2993968) [0x7ff810747f30]
4 ??? (SkyLight + 2465345) [0x7ff8106c6e41]
3 ??? (SkyLight + 2514230) [0x7ff8106d2d36]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2553259) [0x7ff8106dc5ab]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2647104) [0x7ff8106f3440]
1 _CFRetain + 237 (CoreFoundation + 1134843) [0x7ff80b9720fb]
Powerstats for: WindowServer [159]
UUID: EACA179E-9CDF-3CA4-8B0C-EA3923177D6A
Path: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SkyLight.framework/Versions/A/Resources/WindowServer
Codesigning ID: com.apple.WindowServer
Resource Coalition ID: 143
Architecture: x86_64
Parent: launchd [1]
UID: 88
Footprint: 515.08 MB
Start time: 2023-05-23 23:03:50.938 -0700
End time: 2023-05-23 23:06:24.711 -0700
Num samples: 6 (9%)
Primary state: 6 samples Non-Frontmost App, Non-Suppressed, User mode, Effective Thread QoS Unspecified, Requested Thread QoS Unspecified, Override Thread QoS Unspecified
User Activity: 0 samples Idle, 6 samples Active
Power Source: 0 samples on Battery, 6 samples on AC
6 start + 1903 (dyld + 25631) [0x7ff80b4a441f]
6 ??? (WindowServer + 13452) [0x10fbcf48c]
6 ??? (SkyLight + 3254343) [0x7ff810787847]
6 ??? (SkyLight + 3254766) [0x7ff8107879ee]
6 ??? (SkyLight + 3252127) [0x7ff810786f9f]
5 ??? (SkyLight + 3253019) [0x7ff81078731b]
5 ??? (SkyLight + 2994210) [0x7ff810748022]
5 ??? (SkyLight + 2993968) [0x7ff810747f30]
4 ??? (SkyLight + 2465345) [0x7ff8106c6e41]
3 ??? (SkyLight + 2514230) [0x7ff8106d2d36]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2553259) [0x7ff8106dc5ab]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2647104) [0x7ff8106f3440]
1 _CFRetain + 237 (CoreFoundation + 1134843) [0x7ff80b9720fb]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2553020) [0x7ff8106dc4bc]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2636398) [0x7ff8106f0a6e]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 1994120) [0x7ff810653d88]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2208522) [0x7ff81068830a]
1 ??? (QuartzCore + 1707339) [0x7ff81331ad4b]
1 ??? (QuartzCore + 588931) [0x7ff813209c83]
1 ??? (QuartzCore + 1663924) [0x7ff8133103b4]
1 ??? (QuartzCore + 1663924) [0x7ff8133103b4]
1 ??? (QuartzCore + 1663924) [0x7ff8133103b4]
1 ??? (QuartzCore + 1663924) [0x7ff8133103b4]
1 ??? (QuartzCore + 1673588) [0x7ff813312974]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2552761) [0x7ff8106dc3b9]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2003054) [0x7ff81065606e]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 1998431) [0x7ff810654e5f]
1 ??? (QuartzCore + 2857786) [0x7ff813433b3a]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2538881) [0x7ff8106d8d81]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2504667) [0x7ff8106d07db]
1 ??? (libsystem_trace.dylib + 48136) [0x7ff80b587c08]
1 ??? (libsystem_trace.dylib + 89536) [0x7ff80b591dc0]
1 ??? (libsystem_trace.dylib + 26508) [0x7ff80b58278c]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2465941) [0x7ff8106c7095]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2469576) [0x7ff8106c7ec8]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2495796) [0x7ff8106ce534]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 477879) [0x7ff8104e1ab7]
1 CFRetain + 19 (CoreFoundation + 18118) [0x7ff80b8616c6]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 3253001) [0x7ff810787309]
1 ??? (SkyLight + 2351306) [0x7ff8106ab0ca]
Binary Images:
0x10fbcc000 - 0x10fbdbfff WindowServer (763.4) <EACA179E-9CDF-3CB4-8A0C-EA3954178D3A> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SkyLight.framework/Versions/A/Resources/WindowServer
Do you have a Dock you connect your Mac Pro to? I was getting similar crash reports consistently not too long ago, and it turned out to be a bad Dock. Only found out thru testing plugging in various drives and peripherals to check. Although with a MacPro you might not need a Dock.Well.... I have some bad news...
Code:Date/Time: 2023-05-23 23:03:47.605 -0700 End time: 2023-05-23 23:06:54.584 -0700 OS Version: macOS 13.4 (Build 22F66) Architecture: x86_64h Report Version: 40 Incident Identifier: ACC2A947-D957-4AAB-94C7-D9E4CF635FB8 Data Source: Microstackshots Shared Cache: 867BF49E-1375-3009-9693-A1621961928A slid base address 0x7ff80b406000, slide 0xb406000 Command: WindowServer Path: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SkyLight.framework/Versions/A/Resources/WindowServer Codesigning ID: com.apple.WindowServer Resource Coalition ID: 143 Architecture: x86_64 Parent: launchd [1] PID: 159 Event: wakeups Action taken: none Wakeups: 45001 wakeups over the last 187 seconds (241 wakeups per second average), exceeding limit of 150 wakeups per second over 300 seconds Wakeups limit: 45000 Limit duration: 300s Wakeups caused: 45001 Wakeups duration: 187s Duration: 186.98s Duration Sampled: 183.22s Steps: 68 Hardware model: MacPro7,1 Active cpus: 24 HW page size: 4096 VM page size: 4096 Fan speed: 502 rpm Advisory levels: Battery -> 3, User -> 2, ThermalPressure -> 0, Combined -> 2 Free disk space: 1447.97 GB/1863.39 GB, low space threshold 3072 MB Vnodes Available: 23.95% (63018/263168) Preferred User Language: en-US Country Code: US Keyboards: U.S. OS Cryptex File Extents: 1 Heaviest stack for the target process: 6 start + 1903 (dyld + 25631) [0x7ff80b4a441f] 6 ??? (WindowServer + 13452) [0x10fbcf48c] 6 ??? (SkyLight + 3254343) [0x7ff810787847] 6 ??? (SkyLight + 3254766) [0x7ff8107879ee] 6 ??? (SkyLight + 3252127) [0x7ff810786f9f] 5 ??? (SkyLight + 3253019) [0x7ff81078731b] 5 ??? (SkyLight + 2994210) [0x7ff810748022] 5 ??? (SkyLight + 2993968) [0x7ff810747f30] 4 ??? (SkyLight + 2465345) [0x7ff8106c6e41] 3 ??? (SkyLight + 2514230) [0x7ff8106d2d36] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2553259) [0x7ff8106dc5ab] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2647104) [0x7ff8106f3440] 1 _CFRetain + 237 (CoreFoundation + 1134843) [0x7ff80b9720fb] Powerstats for: WindowServer [159] UUID: EACA179E-9CDF-3CA4-8B0C-EA3923177D6A Path: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SkyLight.framework/Versions/A/Resources/WindowServer Codesigning ID: com.apple.WindowServer Resource Coalition ID: 143 Architecture: x86_64 Parent: launchd [1] UID: 88 Footprint: 515.08 MB Start time: 2023-05-23 23:03:50.938 -0700 End time: 2023-05-23 23:06:24.711 -0700 Num samples: 6 (9%) Primary state: 6 samples Non-Frontmost App, Non-Suppressed, User mode, Effective Thread QoS Unspecified, Requested Thread QoS Unspecified, Override Thread QoS Unspecified User Activity: 0 samples Idle, 6 samples Active Power Source: 0 samples on Battery, 6 samples on AC 6 start + 1903 (dyld + 25631) [0x7ff80b4a441f] 6 ??? (WindowServer + 13452) [0x10fbcf48c] 6 ??? (SkyLight + 3254343) [0x7ff810787847] 6 ??? (SkyLight + 3254766) [0x7ff8107879ee] 6 ??? (SkyLight + 3252127) [0x7ff810786f9f] 5 ??? (SkyLight + 3253019) [0x7ff81078731b] 5 ??? (SkyLight + 2994210) [0x7ff810748022] 5 ??? (SkyLight + 2993968) [0x7ff810747f30] 4 ??? (SkyLight + 2465345) [0x7ff8106c6e41] 3 ??? (SkyLight + 2514230) [0x7ff8106d2d36] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2553259) [0x7ff8106dc5ab] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2647104) [0x7ff8106f3440] 1 _CFRetain + 237 (CoreFoundation + 1134843) [0x7ff80b9720fb] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2553020) [0x7ff8106dc4bc] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2636398) [0x7ff8106f0a6e] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 1994120) [0x7ff810653d88] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2208522) [0x7ff81068830a] 1 ??? (QuartzCore + 1707339) [0x7ff81331ad4b] 1 ??? (QuartzCore + 588931) [0x7ff813209c83] 1 ??? (QuartzCore + 1663924) [0x7ff8133103b4] 1 ??? (QuartzCore + 1663924) [0x7ff8133103b4] 1 ??? (QuartzCore + 1663924) [0x7ff8133103b4] 1 ??? (QuartzCore + 1663924) [0x7ff8133103b4] 1 ??? (QuartzCore + 1673588) [0x7ff813312974] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2552761) [0x7ff8106dc3b9] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2003054) [0x7ff81065606e] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 1998431) [0x7ff810654e5f] 1 ??? (QuartzCore + 2857786) [0x7ff813433b3a] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2538881) [0x7ff8106d8d81] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2504667) [0x7ff8106d07db] 1 ??? (libsystem_trace.dylib + 48136) [0x7ff80b587c08] 1 ??? (libsystem_trace.dylib + 89536) [0x7ff80b591dc0] 1 ??? (libsystem_trace.dylib + 26508) [0x7ff80b58278c] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2465941) [0x7ff8106c7095] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2469576) [0x7ff8106c7ec8] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2495796) [0x7ff8106ce534] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 477879) [0x7ff8104e1ab7] 1 CFRetain + 19 (CoreFoundation + 18118) [0x7ff80b8616c6] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 3253001) [0x7ff810787309] 1 ??? (SkyLight + 2351306) [0x7ff8106ab0ca] Binary Images: 0x10fbcc000 - 0x10fbdbfff WindowServer (763.4) <EACA179E-9CDF-3CB4-8A0C-EA3954178D3A> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SkyLight.framework/Versions/A/Resources/WindowServer
Do you have a Dock you connect your Mac Pro to? I was getting similar crash reports consistently not too long ago, and it turned out to be a bad Dock. Only found out thru testing plugging in various drives and peripherals to check. Although with a MacPro you might not need a Dock.
sorry to hear that; odd one. but it's a reminder to back up often. and i always back up my macs before an OS update, seems a good idea.I am having a massive problem with the update to 13.4 which went out last week and wonder if anyone knows anything about this problem.
When I updated my 2019 MBP to 13.4, all my data in my DOCUMENTS folder disappeared!. Every single file! The files may well still be on the ssd but none show!
I have spent few hours with apple over the phone about this and have gone to the genius bar and their only answer is to wipe the drive and restore from a backup. However, my letest backup is dated may 2nd so I would have to lose all my most recent files AND all my open tabs on my browsers ]
My downloads folder is intact, as are my pictures and movie folders but Documents has completely disappeared .
Does anyone know anything about this please? Is there any report or thread on it please?
Then I'd suggest unplugging as much as possible leaving maybe just power and Ethernet (and Keyboard & Mouse if needed) and then over a little bit of time try plugging in each different peripheral separately and see if something is causing it. OR, it could actually be a physical USB port or ThunderBolt port that's broken. That's a tough one.Nope, no dock
Then I'd suggest unplugging as much as possible leaving maybe just power and Ethernet (and Keyboard & Mouse if needed) and then over a little bit of time try plugging in each different peripheral separately and see if something is causing it. OR, it could actually be a physical USB port or ThunderBolt port that's broken. That's a tough one.