Do you use the Monitor as a USB HUB? I've seen folks post over time on here that that's caused issues, too..
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Ah good point! I do use the usb-c from my second monitor in this manner from time to time.
Good to know!
Just sucks as this didn't happen to me on any OS before Ventura...
MacBook screen blinks once goes black then normal
Someone can tell if this "bug" is fixed?
Someone can tell if this "bug" is fixed?
In my case, Play/Pause key (Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad) has stopped working with Music app since I updated to macOS 13.4.
my built in keyboard (M2 pro 14") also had this. Play/pause stopped working in all apps.
But today, it just started working again.
Yeah this is getting absolutely out of hand. Now I am getting frequent WindowServer and what appears to be watchdogd crashes (just happened several times in a row, I submitted all to apple).
![Screenshot 2023-05-25 at 2.41.41 PM.png]( "Screenshot 2023-05-25 at 2.41.41 PM.png")
I have disconnected all peripherals, only thing plugged into my Mac Pro is my monitor and ethernet cable. Furthermore, yesterday I did a fresh install of Ventura 13.4.
May have to try rolling back to Monterey if this crap continues... This is preposterous.
I have disconnected all peripherals, only thing plugged into my Mac Pro is my monitor and ethernet cable. Furthermore, yesterday I did a fresh install of Ventura 13.4.
May have to try rolling back to Monterey if this crap continues... This is preposterous.
Code:
panic(cpu 2 caller 0xffffff8008f79941): userspace watchdog timeout: no successful checkins from WindowServer in 120 seconds
WindowServer has not exited since first loaded
service: logd, total successful checkins in 1973 seconds: 198, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
service: WindowServer, total successful checkins in 1940 seconds: 182, last successful checkin: 120 seconds ago
service: remoted, total successful checkins in 1973 seconds: 196, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
service: opendirectoryd, total successful checkins in 1973 seconds: 197, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
service: configd, total successful checkins in 1973 seconds: 197, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
Panicked task 0xffffff8b5dee4bf8: 3 threads: pid 106: watchdogd
Backtrace (CPU 2), panicked thread: 0xffffff8b5e6e9598, Frame : Return Address
0xffffffc069ddb5a0 : 0xffffff8005c6f4fd
0xffffffc069ddb5f0 : 0xffffff8005dc3c54
0xffffffc069ddb630 : 0xffffff8005db36d9
0xffffffc069ddb690 : 0xffffff8005c0f951
0xffffffc069ddb6b0 : 0xffffff8005c6f7dd
0xffffffc069ddb7a0 : 0xffffff8005c6ee87
0xffffffc069ddb800 : 0xffffff80063dcf73
0xffffffc069ddb8f0 : 0xffffff8008f79941
0xffffffc069ddb900 : 0xffffff8008f795dc
0xffffffc069ddb920 : 0xffffff8008f786b9
0xffffffc069ddba50 : 0xffffff8006354cee
0xffffffc069ddbbb0 : 0xffffff8005d701e9
0xffffffc069ddbcc0 : 0xffffff8005c4975a
0xffffffc069ddbd60 : 0xffffff8005c604a2
0xffffffc069ddbdd0 : 0xffffff8005c60b27
0xffffffc069ddbef0 : 0xffffff8005d98f53
0xffffffc069ddbfa0 : 0xffffff8005c0fdb6
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com.apple.driver.watchdog(1.0)[BD08CE2D-77F5-358C-8F0D-A570540A0BE7]@0xffffff8008f77000->0xffffff8008f79fff
Process name corresponding to current thread (0xffffff8b5e6e9598): watchdogd
Mac OS version:
22F66
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Have you escalated this with Apple Support? Seems like something Apple engineering should be aware of and dealing with.
You could try contacting Apple Support regarding Ventura and this issue.
However, if you haven't already done so, file a full bug report--including a sysdiagnose--with Apple using the Feedback Assistant. This way at least you'll see if the bug has already been duplicated or possibly fixed in a future release. And an engineer might possibly respond, asking for more reports.
Bug Reporting - Apple Developer
Now with Feedback Assistant available on iPhone, iPad, Mac, and the web, it’s easier to submit effective bug reports and request enhancements to APIs and tools.
You could try contacting Apple Support regarding Ventura and this issue.
However, if you haven't already done so, file a full bug report--including a sysdiagnose--with Apple using the Feedback Assistant. This way at least you'll see if the bug has already been duplicated or possibly fixed in a future release. And an engineer might possibly respond, asking for more reports.
Bug Reporting - Apple Developer
Now with Feedback Assistant available on iPhone, iPad, Mac, and the web, it’s easier to submit effective bug reports and request enhancements to APIs and tools.developer.apple.com
Thanks for that, I've submitted my report to them giving as much detail as I can -- really hoping someone tries to get in touch with me, so I can explain more.
I've also rolled back to Monterey, and my system seems waaaay more stable now, but I will keep an eye to see if it still fails.
At this late stage, it's unlikely that your issue will get fixed in Ventura. I suspect you'll have to wait for the next major macOS release this fall.
It looks like it's related to WhatsApp app.
If I open WhatsApp and listen to any voice note, Play/Pause key stops working outside WhatsApp.
If I quit WhatsApp with CMD + Q, it starts working again for the whole system.
I'd suggest even going to a Genius Bar if it's possible, if you hear nothing back. There is the "Support" App on iOS & iPadOS, too, as opposed to the Feedback app. Sometimes I get more headway thru there than sending in logs and stuff thru Feedback.
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Hi, so have you noticed any of the same issues seen in Ventura on your rolled-back Monterey ?
Yeah, unfortuantely, I am still getting the WindowServer kernel panics, in fact just had one KP happen a few minutes ago, here is the log for it:
On another note, I just found THIS thread, which a lot of people are still posting in, though they seem to be focusing on Catalina, but it is the same kernel panic crash I am suffering from.
I have only experienced this on Ventura and now Monterey on my 7,1. Have never experienced this on any of my other Macs.
I have one of those 1TB Transcend SD cards that are flush with the MacBook that always stays there, as extra storage, and on reboot, the card won't come up, you have to remove, then reinsert it to be recognized. I reported it.
Weird thing, woke up this morning and OneDrive and Box crashed and Box acted like it never heard of me before - made me re-log in. And even then, it wouldn't work right until I rebooted. Normally, it could just be a Box bug, but both Box and OneDrive got flaky at he same time. Dropbox was OK though.
I normally don't have too many issues with MacOS updates, but this one has been terrible. I reinstalled the OS from scratch, so this is as clean as it gets. It had trouble with installing extensions too, crash rebooted during installs multiple times until it got stable.
And sometimes the OS forgets my wallpaper selection. Like I said...terrible.
I normally don't have too many issues with MacOS updates, but this one has been terrible. I reinstalled the OS from scratch, so this is as clean as it gets. It had trouble with installing extensions too, crash rebooted during installs multiple times until it got stable.
And sometimes the OS forgets my wallpaper selection. Like I said...terrible.
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My issues came about on two new recently released OS' (which were both released at the same time: 13.4 and 12.6.6), so I decided to go back to a version that was working flawlessly on my 7,1 -- that being macOS Ventura 13.1.
So... I did an SMC reset immediately followed by a deep NVRAM reset on my Mac Pro.
Following all of that, I then used a USB installer of 13.1 that I created to totally wipe my on-board SSD (via recovery Disk Util) and made a fresh install of 13.1.
Afterwards, I used Migration Assistant to bring back ONLY my music, documents, photos, etc... I DID NOT use it to bring back my apps or system settings.
I then manually reinstalled all of my apps, one by one, and reconfigured my system settings.
System has been running fine since then, but I will keep an eye if the WindowServer plague comes back to haunt me.
With all of this said -- I now DO NOT recommend OS' 12.6.6 or 13.4, and will probably remain on 13.1 until macOS 14 (if that isn't plagued by this crap either)
Thanks for reading.
Update: Literally the moment I posted this, the damn WindowServer crash showed itself:
Code:
panic(cpu 16 caller 0xffffff800f8d7941): userspace watchdog timeout: no successful checkins from WindowServer in 120 seconds
service: logd, total successful checkins in 2753 seconds: 276, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
service: WindowServer, total successful checkins in 2720 seconds: 256, last successful checkin: 120 seconds ago
service: remoted, total successful checkins in 2753 seconds: 274, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
service: opendirectoryd, total successful checkins in 2753 seconds: 275, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
service: configd, total successful checkins in 2753 seconds: 275, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
Panicked task 0xffffff95216ebdf0: 3 threads: pid 105: watchdogd
Backtrace (CPU 16), panicked thread: 0xffffff90529d90c8, Frame : Return Address
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0xffffffcaf38a3ef0 : 0xffffff800c72aa7a
0xffffffcaf38a3fa0 : 0xffffff800c585db6
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Looking at the Model Identifier you posted earlier, is that a 2012 Mac Pro?
Kernel Panics can happen from faulty hardware, too. I was getting kernel panics NON STOP on my 2015 MBP, but the later found that it was from a damaged Logic board due to a bulging battery. Just suggesting there could maybe be an issue. Have you tried running a diagnostic on it? Do you get any error codes? Sometimes that can at least point you in the right direction.
Also, downgrading doesn’t downgrade the Kernel
Where are you getting that from? -- this is a 2019 Mac Pro 7,1 (same as in my sig).
From the log: System model name: MacPro7,1 (Mac-27AD2F918AE68F61)
unfortunately, Apple Diagnostic reveals no errors, and when I run Disk Utility Repair from within recovery, no errors on any of my drives.
I have been thinking of trying Apple Configurator, but I will need to read up more on that, as it will require me to use another mac to revive and restore.
My bad, I was looking at MacBookPro7,1 not MacPro7,1
But either way.. a faulty USB port or something could cause it.