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MacBook Pro 13 (Early 2015), base model.
I tried a clean install of Sonoma a few days ago - it was horrible. A lot of lags, freezes, and warming up. I used the latest OCLP nightly at that moment. So, I returned to Ventura via clean install, which runs fine and smoothly on my Mac. Today, I decided to try another method of Sonoma installation. I made the latest OCPL via Python, reverted patches in Ventura OCPL 0.6.8, and then installed OCLP 0.6.9n to EFI. I downloaded and updated Sonoma via the Sonoma installer from OCLP 0.6.9n on Ventura without root patches. Then, I logged in and installed the latest root patches on Sonoma. In the end, I reset NVRAM for clarity. Now Sonoma runs as good as Ventura was, perfect! On Monday, I'll update OCLP to release version and update to release patches with reverting old ones. Everything works, including Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.
 

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deeveedee said:
Reading posts here and on Discord, the theme with 14.1 Beta is fairly clear... do your 14.1 Beta testing in a Volume that you can afford to lose and be prepared to bork your 14.1 install if you apply OCLP post-install patches. Most reports I see show that 14.1 Beta "works" until post-install patches are applied. Do yourself a favor and don't test 14.1 with post-install patches unless you're prepared to re-install.

EDIT: Depending on your SMBIOS model, without post-install patches, 14.1 will operate without graphics acceleration and without Wi-Fi.
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This is exactly what happened over two separate computers (my extra 2015 13-inch MBP and 2015 11-inch MBA). OS 14.1 seemed to install and work as expected w/o root patches (no wifi or graphics acceleration w/ limited graphics) then when root patches was applied, the computer would either freeze at the Apple logo while booting up or go into repeated boot cycling once the initial display came up to allow you to enter your password.

I have since erased the storage drive and reinstalled 14.0 on these computers and will remain at this version until a fix has been put out. Currently using OCLP 0.6.9n.
 
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Reading posts here and on Discord, the theme with 14.1 Beta is fairly clear... do your 14.1 Beta testing in a Volume that you can afford to lose and be prepared to bork your 14.1 install if you apply OCLP post-install patches. Most reports I see show that 14.1 Beta "works" until post-install patches are applied. Do yourself a favor and don't test 14.1 with post-install patches unless you're prepared to re-install.

EDIT: Depending on your SMBIOS model, without post-install patches, 14.1 will operate without graphics acceleration and without Wi-Fi.
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Thank You! 😊✅
 
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Greetings All,
I have a 2017 27 “ i7 4.2 ghz iMac with a 2TB internal PCIe Main SSD running natively Monterrey/Ventura separate volumes and a 2TB internal SATA SSD.

Will it be possible once official OCLP 1.0 is released to install and dual boot Sonoma on the secondary SATA SSD without affecting my main native boot PCIe drive?

Or will installing OCLP negatively affect the NVram/boot of my native boot drive?
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Nope :cool:
 
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For those who like privacy, there is an option in OCLP GUI that lets you control whether analytics are shared with OCLP Devs. I have nothing against the Devs and have only the highest respect for them and what they have accomplished. It's just that I am generally paranoid about privacy. I opt out of Apple Analytics for macOS Betas and I also opt out of OCLP analytics (when I remember). At one time, a version of the OCLP GUI defaulted to collecting and reporting the OCLP analytics. I think the default is now "Disable Reporting." If you care about this kind of stuff, examine the App Settings in OCLP GUI and make your selection before you apply post-install patches. I assume that OCLP post-install patches respect this setting.

EDIT: ... and no offense intended, but if you have to ask "Is my Mac secure when I use OCLP and OC ...?," you probably don't really care much about computer security.

EDIT2: ... and if you convince yourself that you really care about computer security and you need to do your online banking in a secure environment. Buy a new Mac. Just my opinion - others will have differing views.

EDIT3: ... sorry to burden you with more details, but I'm having a parallel conversation that's relevant to this. Let me shed some light on this and illustrate in a way that might make sense. By using OCLP to enable macOS on unsupported devices, we are "rooting" our Macs. This means that we are giving the most sensitive access possible to others we trust. No matter how trustworthy, people, processes and software can be hacked. And by the way, all the hackers I've met are dumb and unsophisticated. And you can recognize them immediately, because they are mean.

EDIT4: ... yup, my side conversation is still going... security vulnerabilities don't have to be intentional. They can be exposed because of software bugs. But of course, as we have seen, OCLP and OC never have any bugs. Especially the beta versions.

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This is exactly what happened over two separate computers (my extra 2015 13-inch MBP and 2015 11-inch MBA). OS 14.1 seemed to install and work as expected w/o root patches (no wifi or graphics acceleration w/ limited graphics) then when root patches was applied, the computer would either freeze at the Apple logo while booting up or go into repeated boot cycling once the initial display came up to allow you to enter your password.

I have since erased the storage drive and reinstalled 14.0 on these computers and will remain at this version until a fix has been put out. Currently using OCLP 0.6.9n.
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Saw this one literally last minute before restarting to install 14.1. Pheew. Thanks for the heads up!
 
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Okay, I got Sonoma up on my 2017 iMac 18,3, but I get a failure doing the root patch install:

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Everything appears to be working, but WiFi, which I can live with using an ethernet cable, but it would be rad to get it fully up. Any suggestions on how to get this moving?
 
plentyoftimeto69 said:
Okay, I got Sonoma up on my 2017 iMac 18,3, but I get a failure doing the root patch install:


Everything appears to be working, but WiFi, which I can live with using an ethernet cable, but it would be rad to get it fully up. Any suggestions on how to get this moving?
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Are you maintaining a wired Ethernet connection during the patching? If so, you may want to wait for another OCLP pre-built version to be issued.
 
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Are you maintaining a wired Ethernet connection during the patching?
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The first time I attempted patching I was not. This most recent time, from that screenshot, I had it cabled up. It. tossed me the same error either way.

Edit - Should I try reverting the root patches and doing it again while maintaining a wired connection?

Edit 2 - My MacBook was on a cabled link the entire time I root patched, so maybe that's why it went with no issue?
 
Hi all ! I've tried to install Sonoma 14.0 on my iMac 12,1 21,5". All is fine except bluetooth, can't find solution for that. Anyone have the problem?
 
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Not sure. Maybe wait for another pre-build OCLP or try building some earlier versions yourself.

EDIT: You can also try Reverting patches before you apply them.
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Did a revert, reboot, apply, all while connected to cable and no dice. Same error rebuilding the kernel cache. I know I'm playing in untested waters, so I'll just hang tight. I can use my iMac fine over the wire for now, so it's not like I'm dead in the water. Everything but the wifi adapter works. Any place I should submit logs/bugs to in order to help these excellent devs out?
 
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Did a revert, reboot, apply, all while connected to cable and no dice. Same error rebuilding the kernel cache. I know I'm playing in untested waters, so I'll just hang tight. I can use my iMac fine over the wire for now, so it's not like I'm dead in the water. Everything but the wifi adapter works. Any place I should submit logs/bugs to in order to help these excellent devs out?
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Do you know how to post your OC config.plist and provide the IOName of your Wi-Fi device? Follow conversation starting here. Maybe @air.man has a suggestion.
 
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Do you know how to post your OC config.plist and provide the IOName of your Wi-Fi device? Follow conversation starting here. Maybe @air.man has a suggestion.
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I just learned! Here's the config.plist. The adapter in question is a BCM43602.

Edit - Holy crap I didn't think it would paste like that.

Edit 2 - Here's a link to the config.plist. I know it looks sussy but I swear it's a legit link to my Nextcloud instance:
doinkbox.marijuanacomputer.com

config.plist

DoinkBox - Welcome to DoinkBox! 📦
doinkbox.marijuanacomputer.com doinkbox.marijuanacomputer.com
 
Nope. Too late. Rendered my machine useless. I got three backups, a second ssd with sonoma RC installed, can’t get my machine to boot whatsoever.

I even created a new volume with a Sonoma installer official release, but immediately after the reboot, it tells me a certain firmware update can’t be installed.
 
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Nope. Too late. Rendered my machine useless. I got three backups, a second ssd with sonoma RC installed, can’t get my machine to boot whatsoever.

I even created a new volume with a Sonoma installer official release, but immediately after the reboot, it tells me a certain firmware update can’t be installed.
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My recommendation: keep your hands off 14.1beta for now.
 

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Nope. Too late. Rendered my machine useless. I got three backups, a second ssd with sonoma RC installed, can’t get my machine to boot whatsoever.

I even created a new volume with a Sonoma installer official release, but immediately after the reboot, it tells me a certain firmware update can’t be installed.
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If you are trying to convince us that we should be careful when playing with Beta, you have finally convinced us.

@amaze1499 It's easy to become mired in the weeds between 14.0 and 14.1. This is a more important issue when considering the use of OCLP and Beta Software.

EDIT: @amaze1499 I just read my post and decided I won't be doing anything on my OCLP-rooted Mac that needs any degree of computer security or password privacy. But that's just my preference. This view has changed for me from my earlier "trusting" posture, now that OCLP is rooting Wi-Fi and all data is moving through the rooted network.
 
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Reading posts here and on Discord, the theme with 14.1 Beta is fairly clear... do your 14.1 Beta testing in a Volume that you can afford to lose and be prepared to bork your 14.1 install if you apply OCLP post-install patches. Most reports I see show that 14.1 Beta "works" until post-install patches are applied. Do yourself a favor and don't test 14.1 with post-install patches unless you're prepared to re-install.

EDIT: Depending on your SMBIOS model, without post-install patches, 14.1 will operate without graphics acceleration and without Wi-Fi.
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Is there anyway to uninstall the post-install patches on a volume different to the one the system is running ?
 
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