I don't know what to make of us this, but MacOS 11 and Apple silicon feels like the end of a chapter. The end the jobs chapter. Finally. 
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macOS Big Sur Listed as 'Version 11.0' in System Preferences
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Uh, I'll pass on this one until I see some considerable improvement in speed, stability, bugs fixes and real OS improvement. A Mac is not a phone, it doesn't work the same way, it has different needs.
What does " virtualization technologies which should continue to work" even mean? Do you understand how virtualization is tied to physical chip instruction sets?
One of the things I see coming and have said it many times is that macOS system updates will be treated just like iOS and iPadOS, meaning once you upgrade and Apple stops signing it there's no way of going back. I see this happening to all the ARM based Macs in the future. Hope I'm wrong.
I'm willing to give macOS 11 a fair shot. Hopefully optimizations and stability can be ported over from the mobile OS'es
I'm willing to give macOS 11 a fair shot. Hopefully optimizations and stability can be ported over from the mobile OS'es
Yes I understand it well, but your rush to the aggressive response seems to have missed the context of my reply. Parallels and VMware Fusion should continue to work on Intel Macs in Big Sur, which is the question I was responding to.
Macos 11 may be coming.
But Macos 10.16 is too.
Maybe it has 2 names Big Sur for 11 and Little Sur for 10.16.
Downloading 10.16 now.
But seriously .. now I know why they called it Big Sur. It's a HUGE 9.56 GB download!
I think this will be the only version of 10.16.
Normally the first beta doesn't have a name. That normally comes in beta 2.
That picture Craig had did have the name which leads me to believe it wasn't beta 1.
I recon Macos 11 will come in beta 2 when we get the name big sur.
But Macos 10.16 is too.
Maybe it has 2 names Big Sur for 11 and Little Sur for 10.16.
Downloading 10.16 now.
But seriously .. now I know why they called it Big Sur. It's a HUGE 9.56 GB download!
I think this will be the only version of 10.16.
Normally the first beta doesn't have a name. That normally comes in beta 2.
That picture Craig had did have the name which leads me to believe it wasn't beta 1.
I recon Macos 11 will come in beta 2 when we get the name big sur.
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Its almost as though Apple is a US company.
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I like Big Sur, just because of Jack Kerouac.
Time for me to bail out I think. Sick of issues with the MacBook Pros, and Apple's software lately isn't enough to keep me on the platform through another rosetta/universal binary phase.
People forget that Apple was part of the first RISC processor team that was Apple, IBM and Motorola so change happens. It will be hard to replace a Xeon processor at this time with a Apple X chip for now but in a few years and scaling and engineering the world will change. For main stream products like iMacs, MacBooks now being brought into the family of iPhones, iPads, Apple TV and Apple watches it will make them fit better with consumers.
I do not feel sorry, it is going to take at least 3 years for the new Mac OS to become a force, oh and I can run bootcamp and windows 10 and PC games for the next three years and then go to a apple store and trade in my old MacBook Pro for a new MacBook Pro when my AppleCare runs out. It is perfect timing for me
You didn't answer what these "virtualization technologies" that are "own"'d by Parallels actually is. That makes it sound like you don't know what you're talking about.
How in the world did the 2013 iMac not make the cut? It is faster than the 2013 Macbook Air, has a better display, was introduced later, discontinued later, shares the same iGPU/GPU as supported Macbook Pros... ?
It’s only places in California because Apple is a California company. That’s what they said when they switched to this naming scheme years ago.
Not really strange, they don’t have to compare against any Intel chips, just other chips running macOS and macOS apps.
Oh, most definitely. You can’t have 32 bit support on a chip that doesn’t support 32 bits
Can someone remember to go to the AMD rumor thread and go “No.”?Yeah, and all it takes is an understanding that if you’re going to make a big change, do it in approximately 20 year chunks. The folks that are in their twenties now will be all excited and on top of what’s going on. As they age into their 40’s and want everything to be like it was in THEIR 20’s, you get the attention of the next group of 20’s.
macOS has a hypervisor framework built into it today. The version of Parallels Desktop currently available in the Mac App Store uses it, and a modified version of that app is probably what was demoed today.
The Parallels Desktop version sold outside the app store, and VMware Fusion, both use their own hypervisors which are not dependent on the one included in macOS. In spite of the common name, the Mac App Store version of Parallels Desktop is really an entirely different application than the one Parallels sells outside the App Store.
This was in my earlier reply to the person I was answering.