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The most interesting part to me was them running Linux via Parallels. They didn’t mention Windows or VMware. So not sure if this is a special version of Parallels for ARM running Linux for ARM, or if it was the same old Parallels running via Rosetta 2 and an x86 Linux.
 
macOS 11. Wow... A new era begins?

So far, I'm excited at the iOS, ipadOS, and most of the macOS announced so far.

And they already have Mac Mini developer kits available. Cool! I wonder how much it will cost. And they aren't killing off Intel based macs. Hmm... Running iPhone apps native on a mac is going to be weird...

Interesting to see my first WWDC live.
They are transitioning away from Intel, if you watched the keynote. They still have some more Intel releases but they will kill them off in 2 years.
 
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He didn’t say that. He just said Intel Macs for 2 years... so likely Big Sur is the last Intel Mac OS
Well, Tim also said that they still have Intel Macs in the pipeline, so unless you're going to buy one and stop being upgraded immediately, I would say that they will provide both Intel and A-series versions of macOS for quite some time.

They did say that all Apple macOS Big Sur programs were already converted to A-series, but I would've like to see a Terminal demo to just put my mind at ease.
 
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The Tomb Raider demo was the most impressive, especially if that was an iPad SOC (A12Z) with 16GB of RAM. I bet active cooling helped it run at higher sustained clocks. I can’t wait to read more on whatever Rosetta 2 is doing. I do think this is why 32bit support ended though, just gearing up for MacOS 11.

I would say the Tomb Raider demo was ok, it was running at only 1080 with most of the visual effects not running. But having a RISC processor at it heart should give more improvements over the years with better graphics and sound.

We will all laugh in 5 years when we remember the MacBook Pro had a 100watt power supply and you had to charge it twice a day instead of the 2025 Mac that can run off battery for 4 days :)
 
it's still a mac, it will run mac apps, do mac things. relax, ppl :rolleyes:
Except a lot of us prefer MacOS because of how much Finder is when compared to Windows Explorer, and it looks like they’ve pretty much destroyed Finder. That said I’m open to have my mind changed once I get a chance to use it.
 
It went better than how I expected it to be. There will be bugs but this is very smooth.

Apple knows their market. Many people who are buying Macbook (Pros) are either creatives or business people. If they can make Adobe and Office work with significant gains they have a winner.

Personally as someone using Photoshop a lot and a bit of FCPX I’m interested. If they can significantly improve performance on the 13” MBP it’s good enough. That would be a really interesting proposition over Windows.
 
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Exactly. A similar thing happened at the Intel transition. Photoshop was demoed as native and then Adobe didn't ship a native Intel version for a long time after that.

But Adobe had issues continuing to embrace and support Apple. It too them years to push updates the PC had. One of the reasons I dumped Adobe is because they dumped Macs and Apple.
 
Right now I'm not too keen on the flatness and pastel look. But I'm really intrigued by the possibilities of Apple silicon. It sounds like virtualization is going to be built into the OS, and that's fantastic if true. And the ability to run iOS apps natively is pretty exciting as well. Now we'll have to wait two more years....

Does this mean I can run Windows virtually without paying for Parallels or downloading VirtualBox?
 
The most interesting part to me was them running Linux via Parallels. They didn’t mention Windows or VMware. So not sure if this is a special version of Parallels for ARM running Linux for ARM, or if it was the same old Parallels running via Rosetta 2 and an x86 Linux.
The App Store version of Parallels Desktop, which is completely different than the one that Parallels Desktop sells outside the store, relies on Apple's built in Hypervisor support which is native to the operating system. I'd bet it's that one we saw today, and I'm sure that the operating systems demonstrated were ARM versions, not Intel OSes.
 
Well, Tim also said that they still have Intel Macs in the pipeline, so unless you're going to buy one and stop being upgraded immediately, I would say that they will provide both Intel and A-series versions of macOS for quite some time.

They did say that all Apple macOS Big Sur programs were already converted to A-series, but I would've like to see a Terminal demo to just put my mind at ease.
I agree.

Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger is what Apple used to transition from PPC to Intel. PPC Macs only got Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard after that. Mac OS X Snow Leopard was Intel only. Mind you there was about 2.5 years between Tiger and Leopard. So on the current release schedule Intel Macs probably get another three macOS releases.

But honestly this time around I don’t think Apple will kill off Intel support that fast.
 
Right now I'm not too keen on the flatness and pastel look. But I'm really intrigued by the possibilities of Apple silicon. It sounds like virtualization is going to be built into the OS, and that's fantastic if true. And the ability to run iOS apps natively is pretty exciting as well. Now we'll have to wait two more years....
I feel it's nice they've brought some colour back in the apps, especially Safari and Mail etc. I stopped using Safari partially because I hate the grey dull look. It seems like things will be easier to discern if we're comparing since Yosemite.
One of the first things I noticed was they added some depth back to the Mac icons! (after Johnny ruined them) so let's hope they do this with iOS too (maybe next year if they go for a more full redesign on iOS)
 
Does anybody know what Macs are supported?

My iMac isn't supported, I'm pissed. Here are the Macs that are supported:

MacBook
2015 and later

MacBook Air
2013 and later

MacBook Pro
Late 2013 and later

Mac mini
2014 and later

iMac
2014 and later

iMac Pro
2017 and later
(all models)

Mac Pro
2013 and later


Link to this info ?
 
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