macOS High Sierra (10.13) Unsupported Macs Thread

[dosdude1]

@dosdude1 I changed the CatalogURL to

https://swscan.apple.com/content/ca...ion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz

also tried:

https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-10.13beta-10.13-10.12-10.11-10.10-10.9-mountainlion-lion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz

to no avail. Always downloaded the Installer v13.0.64 of 21/09/2017.

Hm. What to do?

The installer app version is the same, the contents of the installer are what changes.

 

[idealtracks]

@Maltaire: Did you have to apply the GPU patch for your 7970 video card to work? Thanks.

 

[Maltaire]

@Maltaire: Did you have to apply the GPU patch for your 7970 video card to work? Thanks.

Yes, without patch, no booting to hs...

 

[jbarley]

Can anyone confirm whether or not the "sleep/wake" problem with 5770-5870 video cards as indicated back around post #1630 has been solved yet.
I've pulled my own 5770 so can't test it myself at the moment.

Seems the folks with the new MacPro's are experiencing a very similar problem.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/high-sierra-causing-blank-screen-macpro.2073218/

 

[vmirmow]

no one with this problem?

Same issue here on a MacBook Pro 5,3. Have tried deleting/rebuilding caches, reapplying patches, reinstalling entire OS with no luck yet.

 

[DarrenNI]

Same here on my machine (MacBookPro 4,1), plus Safari not working. 10.13.1 Beta1 update shows up in App Store as 1.7GB in size, after install correct build number is shown (17B25c). Had to revert back to macOS 10.13 release.
Please someone share a direct d/l link for the full installer or provide a step-by-step method how to wrap the installer packages provided here:

https://www.zoneactu.fr/2017/09/27/...sierra-10-13-1-developer-beta-1-liens-pkg-dmg

into an installer suited for dosdude1's patcher? Highly appreciated.

Same here (MacBookPro 5,4) - Safari and App Store not working. That'll teach me to not install betas without checking if the patcher's been updated.

 

[KvR]

I also got the red login window on my Mac Pro 3,1 + HD 5770. Interestingly, when I log in remotely the screen is red too. This lead me to think this actually a file or an attibute that could be changed and not a driver arctifact.

Turns out my
/Library/Caches/com.apple.desktop.admin.png
was a single pane red image!

I deleted the image and it solved the red login window. Just resetting your background wallpaper probably also does the trick.

 

[olrik77]

I also got the red login window on my Mac Pro 3,1 + HD 5770. Interestingly, when I log in remotely the screen is red too. This lead me to think this actually a file or an attibute that could be changed and not a driver arctifact.

Turns out my
/Library/Caches/com.apple.desktop.admin.png
was a single pane red image!

I deleted the image and it solved the red login window. Just resetting your background wallpaper probably also does the trick.

Hello from France,

Exactly the same issue with my MacPro 3,1 + HD 5770 : red login screen and sleep/wake non functional.
Trying to install, reinstall, patch and repatch with the Dosdude patch release 2.3.3 : no success !

Going back to El Capitan or Sierra ?

Merci à tous

 

[dosdude1]

Hello from France,

Exactly the same issue with my MacPro 3,1 + HD 5770 : red login screen and sleep/wake non functional.
Trying to install, reinstall, patch and repatch with the Dosdude patch release 2.3.3 : no success !

Going back to El Capitan or Sierra ?

Merci à tous

This is an issue with High Sierra, I believe. It's apparently also happening to users of officially supported Mac Pros.

 

[nekton1]

The original HD 2600 XT will work.
I am using a GTX 680 and sleep/wake seems to work fine on that too but not extensively tested with long sleep periods.

Red login window is not big deal, but wake-up is for me.
My Mac is always on and sleep after 1 hour if you do not do anything.
HD 7950 is very expensive card and I have this about 3-4 years.

So should I replace it and can someone confirm GPU-cards what are fully compatible?
I have original HD 2600 XT will that work?

 

[thicla01]

I also got the red login window on my Mac Pro 3,1 + HD 5770. Interestingly, when I log in remotely the screen is red too. This lead me to think this actually a file or an attibute that could be changed and not a driver arctifact.

Turns out my
/Library/Caches/com.apple.desktop.admin.png
was a single pane red image!

I deleted the image and it solved the red login window. Just resetting your background wallpaper probably also does the trick.

Thanks! It worked for me too. Mac Pro 3.1 + ATI Radeon HD 5870

 

[Sevenfeet]

OK, I have what I think is a new problem. Up until now, I've successfully upgraded a MacBook 5,1 and a Mac Pro 3,1 to HS without incident. But my desktop Mac Pro 3,1 is very weird. During the boot process of the USB stick to get to the installer, the boot process crashes with a kernel panic. (generic gray screen with no useful information). This is a machine that has a SoftRAID 5.6.3 volume (RAID 5) which is supposed to be HS compatible. And the boot drive is a Fusion drive. Not sure which (if either) is causing the crash. The video card is a Nvidia 8800 (original Apple) which should be fine.

I could open the case and pull the RAID 5 drives out enough to boot without them and see what happens. I was going to rebuild the array anyway.

Thoughts dosdude1 or anyone else?

 

[jhowarth]

The installer app version is the same, the contents of the installer are what changes.

Are you sure this works if upstream has only released a Software Update version of the seed rather than a full installer? I find that if I change DownloadSettings.plist to have...

https://swscan.apple.com/content/ca...ion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz

that the downloaded installer installs 17A365 rather than 17B25c.

 

[cinergi]

Tried to upgrade a Macbook5,1 using dosdude1's patcher. After High Sierra installation, booted back to installer USB drive, launched Disk Utility, converted Macintosh HD to APFS (it's a Samsung 850 EVO SSD), then launched "macOS Post Install" and applied the recommended patches including the APFS patch.

After rebooting to the SSD (Macintosh HD), the boot process is interrupted with a message "Boot file not found, exiting..." and the Shell> prompt.

The SSD is encrypted using FileVault, if it matters.

Any ideas?

Thanks
cinergi

 

[dosdude1]

Tried to upgrade a Macbook5,1 using dosdude1's patcher. After High Sierra installation, booted back to installer USB drive, launched Disk Utility, converted Macintosh HD to APFS (it's a Samsung 850 EVO SSD), then launched "macOS Post Install" and applied the recommended patches including the APFS patch.

After rebooting to the SSD (Macintosh HD), the boot process is interrupted with a message "Boot file not found, exiting..." and the Shell> prompt.

The SSD is encrypted using FileVault, if it matters.

Any ideas?

Thanks
cinergi

Yeah, unfortunately the APFS booting implementation doesn't support FileVault APFS volumes at this time. If you must use FileVault, you'll need to use an HFS volume. Otherwise, disable FileVault on your APFS volume and it'll work just fine.
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Are you sure this works if upstream has only released a Software Update version of the seed rather than a full installer? I find that if I change DownloadSettings.plist to have...

https://swscan.apple.com/content/ca...ion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz

that the downloaded installer installs 17A365 rather than 17B25c.

Hmm, maybe not, then.. You may just have to install the final build, and update to the beta after running the Public Beta Access Utility.

 

[jhowarth]

Yeah, unfortunately the APFS booting implementation doesn't support FileVault APFS volumes at this time. If you must use FileVault, you'll need to use an HFS volume. Otherwise, disable FileVault on your APFS volume and it'll work just fine.
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Hmm, maybe not, then.. You may just have to install the final build, and update to the beta after running the Public Beta Access Utility.

Not sure if this is related to changing the Catalog URL, but using the 2.3.3 High Sierra Patcher to download and create a new usb installer produces a system which constantly spews this in the system log...

Sep 29 22:55:19 Mac-Pro apfshelperd[2366]: Booter volume not found
Sep 29 22:55:19 Mac-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.dosdude1.apfshelperd[2366]): Service exited with abnormal code: 255
Sep 29 22:55:19 Mac-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.dosdude1.apfshelperd): Service only ran for 0 seconds. Pushing respawn out by 10 seconds.

 

[oedipax]

Apologies in advance for this probably dumb question, I just want to make sure I understand correctly.

So I'm trying to install High Sierra on an Early 2009 MacPro (4,1) currently running El Capitan 10.11.6.

I've downloaded the High Sierra installer and patched it with the latest provided utility. I've then used the utility to transfer this to a freshly formatted (OS X Extended, Journaled) 32gb USB thumb drive, which worked fine.

However, whether I reboot and hold option down, or choose the USB thumbdrive as my startup disk in OS X, the only thing I get after rebooting and waiting a while is a black screen.

My GPU is a GeForce GTX 660 Ti.

Do I need to pop in an older GPU in order to make this work? Is there no way to do this headless?

Could I remove my startup HD from my tower, mount it externally on my laptop (already running High Sierra) and update it there?

Or any other possible process that DOESN'T involve switching out the damn GPU?

I ask because I bought this machine in 2009. I really have no idea where the original GPU even is now - that was several moves ago...

Thanks in advance for any ideas!

 

[dosdude1]

Not sure if this is related to changing the Catalog URL, but using the 2.3.3 High Sierra Patcher to download and create a new usb installer produces a system which constantly spews this in the system log...

Sep 29 22:55:19 Mac-Pro apfshelperd[2366]: Booter volume not found
Sep 29 22:55:19 Mac-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.dosdude1.apfshelperd[2366]): Service exited with abnormal code: 255
Sep 29 22:55:19 Mac-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.dosdude1.apfshelperd): Service only ran for 0 seconds. Pushing respawn out by 10 seconds.

That's something leftover from the old helper volume APFS booting implementation... Just run "sudo rm /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.dosdude1.apfshelperd.plist" in Terminal, which will get rid of that issue.
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Apologies in advance for this probably dumb question, I just want to make sure I understand correctly.

So I'm trying to install High Sierra on an Early 2009 MacPro (4,1) currently running El Capitan 10.11.6.

I've downloaded the High Sierra installer and patched it with the latest provided utility. I've then used the utility to transfer this to a freshly formatted (OS X Extended, Journaled) 32gb USB thumb drive, which worked fine.

However, whether I reboot and hold option down, or choose the USB thumbdrive as my startup disk in OS X, the only thing I get after rebooting and waiting a while is a black screen.

My GPU is a GeForce GTX 660 Ti.

Do I need to pop in an older GPU in order to make this work? Is there no way to do this headless?

Could I remove my startup HD from my tower, mount it externally on my laptop (already running High Sierra) and update it there?

Or any other possible process that DOESN'T involve switching out the damn GPU?

I ask because I bought this machine in 2009. I really have no idea where the original GPU even is now - that was several moves ago...

Thanks in advance for any ideas!

Yeah, you need a flashed GPU in order to view the installer. You can use your other machine to perform the update, just select your Mac Pro's hard disk as the one to install to, and the one to patch with the post-install tool. Also select MacPro4,1 as the desired model in the post-install tool.

 

[oedipax]

Yeah, you need a flashed GPU in order to view the installer. You can use your other machine to perform the update, just select your Mac Pro's hard disk as the one to install to, and the one to patch with the post-install tool. Also select MacPro4,1 as the desired model in the post-install tool.

Thanks! I will do that. Appreciate the quick response and the tool

 

[tejel]

Hello,

I'm trying to create the installer USB but it crashes everytime, it gives me this message:


I tried with two different usb sticks and gave me the same error.

¿Can you help me please?

Thanks!

 

[DarrenNI]

Same here (MacBookPro 5,4) - Safari and App Store not working. That'll teach me to not install betas without checking if the patcher's been updated.

Bizarre - both have now started working, despite me having changed absolutely nothing overnight.

 

[Yipee2016]

I have new "red" bugs with Mac Pro 3.1 (Radeon 6870) :
- when I try to use fullscreen app (like mail) I have a "flashing" red full screen. Not very annoying but a bit strange.
- in Preview app with pdf file, when I scroll, some parts of the file are red.

Anyone with this kind of bugs ?

 

[Blackriton]

I have new "red" bugs with Mac Pro 3.1 (Radeon 6870) :
- when I try to use fullscreen app (like mail) I have a "flashing" red full screen. Not very annoying but a bit strange.
- in Preview app with pdf file, when I scroll, some parts of the file are red.

Anyone with this kind of bugs ?

Me on a 3,1 with the 5770 card. I just tested a pdf in Preview and I got the same flashing red parts. But not happening with Acrobat Reader instead of Preview..............!!!!!!!!!! Let's hope its a general bug on High Sierra like the wake-up bug
and not related to the Radeon card ??????

 

[cmbag]

Hello. I tried again, and after installation, appeared the "forbidden" signal. I had to "format" the disk and install an old version (usb) that I had created with your patch.

Downloaded again from your Google Drive, and it seems the version is 21st september. The final version is from 25th september.

Tonight I will try again, but I am afraid, It will not install de 10.13 version.

I worked with the clean installation, and got the 10.13 version. I had to erase the Hard Drive. Now I already have the 10.13.1 beta, from apple beta program. It is working smooth and fast on my MacBook Pro mid-2009 (160GB disk, 8 GB RAM).

 

[th3joker]

@dosdude1 Currently running High Sierra on my Mac Pro 3,1 works fine no problems but I'm planning on installing the drive into my new 4.1 when it arrives, is there a way to reverse/uninstall the patch and the boot stuff for APFS. I'll be flashing it to 5.1 Firmware first obviously.