I never said it was easy. I think it's fair however to expect it to be compatible with 2017 1,2-4K$ high end desktops, which we waited to be updated for almost two years.
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macOS High Sierra Will Be Released on September 25
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I never said it was easy. I think it's fair however to expect it to be compatible with 2017 1,2-4K$ high end desktops, which we waited to be updated for almost two years.
I don't recall them mentioning macOS updates at previous events like this. I don't think it means anything they did not say anything today.
Stratospheric Sierra?
So is the new file system still having issues with encryption? Might hold off if so
Don't worry - they didn't mention the new Beats either - and they're not going anywhere either.
I am not at all interested. Apple broke LLVM with Sierra. I was building Pothosware but
macOS High Sierra, the new version of the macOS operating systems for Macs, will be released to the public on Monday, September 25, according to Apple's macOS High Sierra website.
That's nearly a week after the iOS 11 and watchOS 4 release date, with those software updates coming on Tuesday, September 19. It is not unusual for the Mac operating system to be released after new watchOS and iOS operating system updates.
macOS High Sierra builds on features first introduced in the macOS Sierra update in 2016, focusing primarily on new storage, video, and graphics technology. The update brings a new Apple File System (APFS), High Efficiency Video Codec (HEVC), new HEIF image encoding, and an updated version of Metal with support for VR and external GPUs.
Multiple apps have been updated with new capabilities in macOS High Sierra. Photos features a new sidebar to make it easier to access editing tools and albums, and there are new filters and editing options like Curves and Selective Color.
Safari is gaining speed enhancements, an option to prevent autoplay videos, and a privacy feature aimed at cutting down on cross-site data tracking. Siri in macOS High Sierra has a new, more natural voice, and Spotlight offers flight status information. iCloud, FaceTime, Notes, and Mail also include useful new features.
macOS High Sierra will run on all machines that are capable of running macOS Sierra, the current Mac operating system.
For a complete overview of changes coming in macOS High Sierra, make sure to check out our macOS High Sierra roundup.
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Sierra was so incompatible I had to restore my El Capitan backup. To be honest I am pretty pissed I can't use AMD's Firepro libraries. Apple's OpenCL libraries suck.
My next workstation will run Linux and have a high end nvidia video card.
From what I understand, the installer only converts apple-internal SSDs. You can still use APFS, but I think you need to do the conversion yourself.
Why do you say it's incompatible? Everything I've read says that you can format Fusion and spinning disks as APFS.
"When you install macOS High Sierra on the built-in solid-state drive (SSD) of a Mac, that drive is automatically converted to APFS. Fusion Drives and hard disk drives (HDDs) aren't converted."
It's still unclear whether HD/FD can be manually formatted to APFS in the final release however. See this thread.
press option and hover over the green button, the old + comes back up like it used to
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Honestly, its not obvious to me as to whether iBluetooth is serious in his post, or if it is a deviation of the old "Safari is now snappier" meme.
I'm glad that Apple has a new file system, HFS+ was very long in the tooth. I'm just hoping that it brings something more, aside from SSD optimization and stability. Truely, Apple screwed up royally when they didn't follow thru with the move to ZFS on 10.5 Leopard.
Solaris, plus all the open source Solaris distro's has ZFS. Many of the BSD distro's ship with ZFS. Several Linux distro's ship with ZFS, even though they are still straddled by their viral GPL license model. I also saw in the news that Red Hat finally stopped shipping BTRFS as part of their distro, although ZFS directly from Red Hat is not an option I am aware of, nor am I suggesting it will be anytime soon.
The only desktop based OS's I *don't* ultimately see ending up with ZFS is windows and OS/2.
I just bought one. The Internet is flooded with HP Z42, Z620 and Z820 work stations that have just come off lease. These have very high-end specs, like 16-core 32 thread eons and 192GB of ECC RAM near silent cooling and no-tool required disassembly. VERY sturdy cases and slots for two Nvidia cards. You can also buy off lease rack mount servers for under $500 with Xeon chips and ECC RAM, Look at eBay and Newegg.
I bought one a couple weeks ago for less than the cost of a "stripped" iMax Pro. But I'm keeping my 27" iMac. The HP Workstation runs Linux headless and is stuffed in a closet the old iMac still runs the Safari, Pages, Keynote and desktop but the big compute jobs and development system lives on the HP "Z". I tell you no matter how much work I pile on the HP, it don't slow down. Even the "slower' GTX1060 GPU runs big compute jobs way-fast.
It's clear you're worried, as no one has been able to reassure you.
Due to the way betas are run, we can't necessarily come to any conclusions about whether manual/automatic conversion for Fusion will be available with the GM release - sometimes a feature is withdrawn for one or more betas, only to see it return in a later beta. I'd just say, wait and see.
FWIW, my 27" late 2013 iMac with 3 TB Fusion was automatically converted to APFS with the first public beta. I've had several issues, filed several bug reports, but overall, it's been working well.
If a significant number of others with Fusion drives had similar issues, I can understand why Apple may be holding back automatic conversion of Fusion drives for now. This kind of thing has to work flawlessly before Apple makes it mandatory for the general public. I'm happy being a guinea pig, but the general public is not, especially that large percentage of the public that does not make backups (why, why, why???).
Rush-to-release is the reason "conventional wisdom" states to never load a dot-zero. As a very long time beta tester, a dot-zero certainly doesn't scare me, but I do understand. So please, don't complain if this is being held back until solidly debugged. That's a good thing, not a bad thing.
Huh, it (APFS) made the iPhone faster, there's plenty of prove if you don't believe.
On macOS it didn't make one heck of a difference.
Don't get your comment.
I already have APFS on my Mac, it's not an Apple SSD(Edited), it does not matter if it's Apple made or not.
It also 'converted' automagically.
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So iOS 11 is coming first? Won't that cause compatibility issues with Photos, etc? I thought Sierra didn't support some of the new file formats that will be in iOS 11/High Sierra, so you'd think they would release at the same time..
Need a tech refresh. Working on a Mid-2009 MBP (El Capitan is the latest supported). Don't need high end graphics capabilities but might need to run Xcode. Trying to decide whether a new MBP or iPad Pro makes sense. The $50 iPad Pro increase doesn't help.
The first OS X update I've been excited about in a long time. I can't wait. Gotta hack it onto my '08 Mac Pro, though...
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- GCC and GDB (wasted too much time effing with Clang and whatever)
- Ubuntu Linux (I consider this a hack and love FreeBSD and Mac, but this is what's supported)
- Nvidia + CUDA (nobody seems to use anything else, and also AMD sucks)
I'm always rooting for the open and generalized solutions to win, but that hasn't happened so far here.
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"Might need to run Xcode" would suggest the iPad isn't an option. You _can_ install Sierra+ on your current machine using DosDude1's tools if you'd rather not buy a new one: http://dosdude1.com/highsierra/ . I want to buy new hardware so I can be actually supported, just not quite yet, so I'm gonna do this for now.
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Yeah, but I feel like High Sierra has been actually beta tested a lot more than the other ones, judging by how many people I know are using the dev preview. This was a lot more true back when they'd just release something out of nowhere.
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When it comes to GPU compute and many other low-level things, I shamelessly stick with the most compatible tools:
- GCC and GDB (wasted too much time effing with Clang and whatever)
- Ubuntu Linux (I consider this a hack and love FreeBSD and Mac, but this is what's supported)
- Nvidia + CUDA (nobody seems to use anything else, and also AMD sucks)
I'm always rooting for the open and generalized solutions to win, but that hasn't happened so far here.
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ZFS is very resource intensive, particularly its appetite for RAM.
I heard that the current version of APFS (second generation) is merely a foundation that Apple will improve upon. So in time, we will see further enhancements.
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It probably has more to do with other optimizations and changes, not APFS. For instance, Apple decreased many animations by 50% (e.g., return to home screen, app launch zoom).
It felt considerably faster, it's a fact APFS makes it faster, by how much we don't know, so it might gotten faster for those reason you mention too.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the beta(s), it was a quite reassuring read as a matter of fact. Of course I understand flawless compatibility is expected from the general public and would actually be in favour of a delayed FD support if it had to be polished. What worries me are the hints that the support might simply be dropped on the final version...
I'd be curious to know what kind of issues you encountered with your FD formatted in APFS during the betas. I recently purchased a 2017 1TB FD iMac and am impatiently waiting for the HS release to star using it as I (and my OCD) prefer to jump directly to the new OS.
I am seriously thinking about the unthinkable (installing the x.0) if APFS is supported on FD. I wouldn't mind some minor issues but I'd rather avoid crashes or data loss - although I always have multiple backups.