macOS High Sierra Will Be Released on September 25

[sploogens]

Huh, it (APFS) made the iPhone faster, there's plenty of prove if you don't believe.
On macOS it didn't make one heck of a difference.
Don't get your comment.

Proof


I already have APFS on my Mac, it's not an Apple SSD(Edited), it does not matter if it's Apple made or not.
It also 'converted' automagically.

Automatically

I am a rebel. I installed iOS 11 beta on my primary phone and High Sierra on my primary laptop, both without a backup. Thin line between insane and stupid...I mean insane and rebel

 

[justperry]

Automatically

I am a rebel. I installed iOS 11 beta on my primary phone and High Sierra on my primary laptop, both without a backup. Thin line between insane and stupid...I mean insane and rebel

Lol

It's rare an installer messes up, in all the years I use OS X/macOS (since 10.0b, 15+ years ago) its messes up once and that was going from 10.12 to 10.13 HAHA.
And even when it messes up you can most likely repair the install by running the original installer.

 

[ApfelKuchen]

Thanks for sharing your experience with the beta(s), it was a quite reassuring read as a matter of fact. Of course I understand flawless compatibility is expected from the general public and would actually be in favour of a delayed FD support if it had to be polished. What worries me are the hints that the support might simply be dropped on the final version...

I'd be curious to know what kind of issues you encountered with your FD formatted in APFS during the betas. I recently purchased a 2017 1TB FD iMac and am impatiently waiting for the HS release to star using it as I (and my OCD) prefer to jump directly to the new OS.
I am seriously thinking about the unthinkable (installing the x.0) if APFS is supported on FD. I wouldn't mind some minor issues but I'd rather avoid crashes or data loss - although I always have multiple backups.

If support is dropped in the final version, then there would be good reasons for dropping it. If the benefits of using a particular file system don't outweigh the risks, then why convert? If they do release it as part of the GM, then I'm certainly bold enough to do it, and since you have multiple backups, you may choose to take the same risk.

I'm not big on sharing beta war stories in public forums. They're too often taken out of context - a bug in beta 1 may be squashed by beta 3, but some parts of the public will only get the message "bug" and assume it persists in the GM release.

 

[The Weatherman]

If support is dropped in the final version, then there would be good reasons for dropping it. If the benefits of using a particular file system don't outweigh the risks, then why convert? If they do release it as part of the GM, then I'm certainly bold enough to do it, and since you have multiple backups, you may choose to take the same risk.

I'm not big on sharing beta war stories in public forums. They're too often taken out of context - a bug in beta 1 may be squashed by beta 3, but some parts of the public will only get the message "bug" and assume it persists in the GM release.

Well GM gave us the answer about FD today: "If you installed a beta version of macOS High Sierra, the Fusion Drive in your Mac may have been converted to Apple File System. Because this configuration is not supported in the initial release of macOS High Sierra, we recommend that you follow the steps below to revert back to the previous disk format."

Your prognosis was the good one, it will (supposedly) be possible to update to APFS but only in a later version of 10.13

 

[dadouney]

You can easily move (cut) with cmd+c & cmd+alt+v to place, same as cutting.

And what about TotalFinder ?

 

[johaster]

Conventional wisdom reminder: never install x.0 version of an operating system. i.e. The term for those who do is "beta tester."

Good advice. I'll wait till my favorite apps are upgraded to 10.13.1...

 

[ratsg]

ZFS is very resource intensive, particularly its appetite for RAM.

ZFS certainly can have an appetite for RAM. Not sure what other resources you feel that it is hungry for.

Also, for anyone who has spent any time with ZFS knows that the "appetite for RAM", is not only very tuneable, that tuning part is manditory when supporting large, resource hungry applications, such as Oracle DB.

 

[Diagoras]

I'd like to upgrade my 2012 MacBook Pro to High Sierra. In fact I've been trying to upgrade from 10.8.5 for several years, but now internet videos won't play and I have no choice. Unfortunately, it's a very frustrating experience. When I click "Get" I get taken to my personal page. I click on "not in US", then on "Thailand" and then to a page for my financial information. Why do I need to divulge my financial information for a FREE update? So I fill out the form and the stupid form asks for a US address. At the advice of a local Apple store technician I fill out a bogus US address that I haven't used in 12 years. Then I try to "buy" the free app and the site takes me through several repetitions of "your name and password don't match", resetting passwords, etc. until I'm sick of the whole process. How does this company stay profitable?

EDIT: Sorry. The problems were apparently my own fault. Some time ago Apple must have changed the requirements for user names, and my name was obsolete. Also, I'm not sure how long the Thai App Store has been available, which is apparently why I previously had to supply a US address. So anyway all that has been fixed, I've got my personal information file changed. I've been able to download and install High Sierra and I can now watch 49ers videos again.