Ok thx. Hope it’s the former. Otherwise, sloppy to allow the bug and sloppily lacking documentation of the fix. Gotta tighten things up a bit in Cupertino.The person who filed the bug with Apple happened to stumble into it by accident. That doesn't mean someone else hadn't already done so, or that Apple internally found the regression that caused this, and fixed it without an external report.
So you'd have to already have some sort of access to the machine to deactivate security updates and then hope nobody notices and wait for exploits coming out for older OS versions that you can exploit, while you already have access to the machine anyway?
Am I the only one thinking that this issue is not that serious?
Yes, it does make Apple look completely stupid failing to implement a working password request, but it's not dangerous.
One more reason I chose to leave macOS in 2017. iOS is a much better platform for me moving forward. Has everything I need and a bright future ahead. We need a ground up rework of macOS - based on iOS.
Nobody said asking for a password is too much.I guess people asking for a password - requires by Apple’s OS - to work is something strange?
Since when the missteps of another company/individual matter in the analysis of own’s missteps?
I feel your response would be different if this were Windows or Android. But because it's Mac OS Apple gets a pass.
I don't know, I feel like they are more on top of iOS security. More slips through the cracks on the macOS side. You're right though, I think it's an overall issue with Apple right now.
I think 2018 should see no major new Apple OS releases. Get all OS's rock solid, secure and optimised. I'd happily sacrifice new features for those things. Apple needs to rebuild the trust in 'it just works'.
Nobody said asking for a password is too much.
But for someone to have access to this bug, they have to have had the password in the first place. As in, this won’t be exploited and isn’t as bad as these people freaking out make it seem.
I think most are missing that point because it actually isn't the point at all. The point is, and most aren't missing it btw, Apple's level of software QA/QC has been subpar lately. Software issues big and small, across iOS and MacOS have been highlighted within the last month or so. Are these issues indicative of what to expect from Apple software? One would hope not, but recent history indicates it's possible.Most are missing this point. If someone can access your admin account, changing your App Store preferences (which can't really do anything bad) is the very least of your worries.
A tad bit disturbing because it's so blatant and Apple has stated security is a feature of its products. These type of basic omissions belie its claims. Feels like Mac OS is becoming Windows with all these security patch updates. Maybe Apple needs to slow down here a bit and get back to basics.
Then there are two serious bugs. They sum, or maybe coalesce if one leads to the other, but they don’t cancel.No, because the settings there can be directly accessed anyway. That prompt is pure theatre.
No, because the things behind this prompt were never protected anyway. They're just plist files. This is the nature of authorization: the user is authorized to make those changes. Authenticated or not, they're still authorized. There's no real security check here (and never has been), just the illusion of one.
Because they care much less about the Mac and it isn't anywhere near as locked down as iOS so there is much more scope for security issues . The quality levels on iOS aren't much better. Regular scam apps hitting the App Store, the general lag/bugginess of iOS 11 even on the latest hardware etc.
There just seems to be a general complacency and lack of quality control about most things they do these days.
Agree. These annual OS updates really do more harm than good.
I think the point is that anytime you’re presented with a password prompt it should mean something.Most are missing this point. If someone can access your admin account, changing your App Store preferences (which can't really do anything bad) is the very least of your worries.
"Has everything I need and a bright future ahead."
So you did not need a computer in the first place?
I wish I could go only iOS apps, however there are half a dozen (at least) Mac Apps that I need to do my job and no current iOS can fill in.
I totally agree Apple has been sloppy lately with macOS and while I don't see this is really serious from a security perspective, it is still going to be bad press for 2-3 days and then the world will forget about it.
macOS is a complex OS, just like many other OS'es and just like all others it can and will have security bugs. I can't go to iOS only and nothing Apple has done with macOS would make want to go with Windows again.
THIS WILL BE THE END OF THE WORLD!
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO APPLE LATELY!? IF SOMEONE HAD ACCESS TO MY MACHINE THEY COULD CHANGE A COUPLE FAIRLY MEANINGLESS APP STORE PREFERENCES!!!!
Passwords: now optional!
Most are missing this point. If someone can access your admin account, changing your App Store preferences (which can't really do anything bad) is the very least of your worries.
I’d rather this error than Microsoft’s pulling of the Spectre and Meltdown fix update because it bricked computers with AMD chips.I think most are missing that point because it actually isn't the point at all. The point is, and most aren't missing it btw, Apple's level of software QA/QC has been subpar lately. Software issues big and small, across iOS and MacOS have been highlighted within the last month or so. Are these issues indicative of what to expect from Apple software? One would hope not, but recent history indicates it's possible.
The point that you're making only seems to be of consequence for those looking to excuse this latest issue.
It doesn't matter - it shows how SLOPPY they are getting. Steve Jobs would've decapitated the entire security team personally for this. Not impressed, Apple. Lots of other bugs and annoyances getting through lately, as well. Lots of apps you can get out of, silly procedures, etc. I'm the worlds largest Mac fanboy, been on Apple since 1999, but the last year or two have been very very messy for them.THIS WILL BE THE END OF THE WORLD!
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO APPLE LATELY!? IF SOMEONE HAD ACCESS TO MY MACHINE THEY COULD CHANGE A COUPLE FAIRLY MEANINGLESS APP STORE PREFERENCES!!!!