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Serious questions:
  1. Since it’s enabled upon upgrade, does it immediately start indexing/looking for data to link together for AI purposes upon post-install restart?
  2. If I turn it off, do we know how much is offloaded? How much of the resources used by AI, if any, do we get back?

I have so far been unsuccessful at finding it using any significant resources
 
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So how do you do this in an Enterprise environment with tens of thousands of computers where the use of AI is heavily regulated? Go to each computer and manually turn it off? (And, NO, Apple does not provide a single option to turn of AI on managed computer.)
as far as I understand this isn't really that sort of AI other than the chat gpt extension which is a single toggle
 
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Except Apple Intelligence is all done on device pretty much with the exception of very limited use cases where it has to communicate with Apple’s cloud servers or ChatGPT, and even then all the data is anonymized. Putting fear in people’s minds is not how you approach this. Apple is not Microsoft. They literally do not sell your data, so, you aren’t really making any sense.
Let me elaborate then. The more Apple can show that users are using Apple Intelligence, the more they can claim their AI is catching on. And we all know how the markets have been feeling about AI this decade. Stock will go up = $
 
Modern Apple does have a (thankfully limited) history of occasionally ignoring its own preference toggles or just toggling them without user consent. I wish I had kept a list of these instances, but system toggles do, from time to time, ignore one's wishes. I wouldn't be surprised if the so-called Apple Intelligence toggle was re-enabled in some future update.
It wouldn't surprise me either.

A semi-regular occurrence for me: "Why is my game laggy? Oh, Wi-Fi's turned itself on again." And if I tell the Mac to forget the network, then my phone drops off it too. Reconnect it on the phone, and it's back on the Mac.
 
Apple should automatically upgrade everyone to, at minimum, an iPhone 16 too if they really want Apple Intelligence adoption to increase. Merely enabling it by default isn't enough as many people haven't upgraded to an AI capable iPhone yet. You hear me, Tim Apple?

And just charge everyone for it at the same time! Who needs individual purchase decisions when the fine print can just acknowledge that as hardware upgrades, we agree to have our credit cards/Apple Pay be charged it. Why bother asking? Assume... A$$ume!!! Resistance is futile. ;)

Now where's that new U2 album automatically added to Music??? ;)
 
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While I don't have evidence, another "magic" toggle(s) to recheck is your iCloud choices. For instance, if you have select ones turned off to avoid overloading the free 5GB, it's a good idea to recheck them after software updates. I've helped enough people who can't seem to recall turning those on again and yet they are on, their iCloud is now "full" and they are being hit up to buy an iCloud subscription.

A little "bug" like that could be pretty profitable each time for all who don't know how to go in and put things back the way they were. But Apple wouldn't do that kind of thing, right? 💰💰💰
 
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Is there a chance apple is being paid to do this? It gives LLMs learning on a scale not imagined before.
It should be worth a TON of money. Perhaps in the way google pays apple to be the default search engine

*if* so, then that would represent apple data harvesting us, which would be a first for apple?
 
what are you trying to say here?
I have no need for those "features"
just when you used the word "bad" now you are implying something else. Done with you.

Im not quite sure what you are trying to say

I think my point is just that it inconsequential either way

I didnt want Stage manager or stacks or launchpad, but they are there and I mostly have forgotten they exist
 
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Has anyone here even found a good use case for turning on AI?

Realizing you need to spend a lot of money on new hardware because you believed the fans who passionately argued that 8GB was plenty for just about everyone right up until Apple finally moved on (curiously, I've seen none of them now bashing Apple for forcing "too much" RAM into all new Macs). ;)

But you probably mean for us customers. I would say ask AI Siri to summarize the list but she still says: "I don't know what you mean by good use cases for AI, here's what I found on the web..." ;)
 
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I hope they let the downloaded AI models be removable.

Currently they cannot be removed if you enabled AI in the first place. The models are stored locally stored and do take up 3-7GB of storage. Once the setting is enabled the storage can't be removed, even if AI is disabled.

You can see the amount of storage AI is using listed under Settings in Storage... I would also imagine not using it would free up a lot of RAM for other tasks, as that was a big thing getting 16GB base into Macs, and requiring 8GB minimum on phones/ipads to use it in the first place. It loads the entire AI model into RAM to work so not using should free up RAM for other tasks.
 
I hope they let the downloaded AI models be removable.

Currently they cannot be removed if you enabled AI in the first place. The models are stored locally stored and do take up 3-7GB of storage. Once the setting is enabled the storage can't be removed, even if AI is disabled.

You can see the amount of storage AI is using listed under Settings in Storage... I would also imagine not using it would free up a lot of RAM for other tasks, as that was a big thing getting 16GB base into Macs, and requiring 8GB minimum on phones/ipads to use it in the first place. It loads the entire AI model into RAM to work so not using should free up RAM for other tasks.
This is what I was afraid of, and I also hope there is a way to release resources if you turn it off. I’m more concerned about iPhones than Macs, but what you describe is a significant chunk of storage either way, especially with a base configuration. On my iPhone, I remove apps I don’t use (Journal as a recent example).
 
So how do you do this in an Enterprise environment with tens of thousands of computers where the use of AI is heavily regulated? Go to each computer and manually turn it off? (And, NO, Apple does not provide a single option to turn of AI on managed computer.)
That would be dependent on the permissions granted to the end user by the MDM, as set by the MDM administrator.
 
potential resource usage
un-intended usage
potential collection of data
...

not good does not equal bad. bad would be if there were no toggle for example
If you accuse them of stealing your data when the switch is turned on, who’s to say they aren’t when it’s turned off?
The switch is almost useless, just a switch to turn off a whole bunch of completely disconnected features that have nothing to do with each other.
 
This sucks but it was what I feared from the moment they announced it last year. I specifically do not want it on my systems and devices but Apple is going to ram it up our .whatever. whether we want it or not. Why? Because they know we have no options. Microsoft is even worse and Linux is good for messing around but won’t run the stuff I need. I have no choice to have AI s*** on my devices.
 
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