I guess I’m going to have to install teamviewer and outsource re-clicking all of my privacy alerts each month.
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macOS Sequoia Will Require Users to Update Screen Recording App Permissions Monthly
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Apple has entirely too many prompts for credentials as it is. AppleTV prompts me for my password every 24 hours. This is ridiculous especially since my M2 MacBook Pro has TouchID. I probably would be slightly less annoyed if I could just finger print through it but I have to type my password. Didn't they used to make fun of Windows for too many prompts back in the XP days?
Remember when Apple criticized Windows Vista's UAC prompts in their ads? Pepperidge farm remembers
My work's IT department is going to love that.
Then in macOS 15.1 they'll blank the permission dialog so it cannot be clicked via remote control.
Then we'll strategize with a second display and one of those water drinking bird toys to click the allow button then Apple will move the permission dialog box on each appearance. Then... then... then...
Why not trust the user to decide, stuff like this is turning me away from Apple
Yeah because clicking a button 12 times a year is just way too much.
I'll make you a bet. If you Apple device count is over 3, you won't get rid of any of your devices and you'll upgrade every 2-3 years. You either switch or you don't, you don't say you're going to, you. You just do it.
Save the sarcasm... They’ve been adding so many security/privacy prompts other than this one with no hidden “I know what I’m doing” mode in sight.
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Obviously you cared enough to reply. I pretty sure you're not the only person buying Apple products, and I'm definitely sure not every one buying a computer knows 90% of what is can do or how. Otherwise there wouldn't be $12B lost to consumer because they didn't know something their computer was capable of. Food for thought. Have an amazing evening.
TBH I think the PM responsible for this "feature" should seriously question his / her judgement.
If we learned anything from Windows Vista it's that nagging the user constantly doesn't solve anything and does make a platform more secure.
There are bad practices we should not repeat and someone responsible for an OS should have a very good understanding of the human nature and think twice when adding annoyances to the platform.
Alarms that go off regularly are completely useless, because most users start to ignore them.
That isn't something new that's just how humans react.
If we learned anything from Windows Vista it's that nagging the user constantly doesn't solve anything and does make a platform more secure.
There are bad practices we should not repeat and someone responsible for an OS should have a very good understanding of the human nature and think twice when adding annoyances to the platform.
Alarms that go off regularly are completely useless, because most users start to ignore them.
That isn't something new that's just how humans react.
Just yesterday I had a user complain that they keep having to enable the microphone for video calls and I have to tell them to suck it up, that's how it works. A lot of these security messages users will ignore because it's simply not within their interests to care to learn. Every time I do a software update I have to explain to 100 people how to allow system extensions to people who are looking at me with a confused expressions!
It wouldn't bother me so much if I didn't need to quit and reload Teams every time I allow screen recording.
I am actually in the other side. My grandpa needs screen recording features for his lectures. The few times Mac asked him for permission, he was scared because of the alert and don’t know what to click.
Yes, the options are written in plain language, but he still needs to confirm with me, or he tends to decline them.
It’s so trivial for me, but for them “screen recording” doesn’t mean anything to them. He doesn’t know why he needs to grant permission. They just want to use the features.
Another funny thing, in China, everytime you download and open a new app, or a system update happened, it ask for cellular and wifi access. My grandparents don’t know/forgets what they mean, and declines the access. They will call me after a few days saying their wechat doesn’t work…
For tech savvy like me, a green dot is enough for me to know something is happening. Those alerts are too much. I will just click “yes” anyways. If I want to turn them off, i would do it myself
Exactly my point, I work in a company where all the workstations are Macs. I have to explain these things every single day, it's so tedious. No matter how much you spell it out to people I'm still asked "this strange thing popped up what do I do?" even though the message is literally telling you!
What annoys me is that this is actually a lazy solutions. Once you confirmed the app can do what it wants for 30 days... how is this a more secure solution? It's like saying: "At least we are doing something".
I agree with others who mentioned that having an indicator that recording is happening would be more useful. Same as some app is tracking your location etc. What is wrong with such an approach?
They could even use notification center to inform user that an app has started recording. If you don't want that you could disable these notifications there.
So users who don't want these notifications can make adjustments - done. All happy.
I agree with others who mentioned that having an indicator that recording is happening would be more useful. Same as some app is tracking your location etc. What is wrong with such an approach?
They could even use notification center to inform user that an app has started recording. If you don't want that you could disable these notifications there.
So users who don't want these notifications can make adjustments - done. All happy.
FFS, these constant authoritisation pop-ups are an effing pain in the rear. Yupp, it's me sitting me in front of my computer. The same person, who just authorised something else 10 seconds ago. Me Me Me.
Just put Face ID in your machines already for your verifications and let me toggle what kind of security I want on my computer for which I am the solely user. I would upgrade just for avoiding all the effing bombardments.
And while you are at it: if you want to build in AI your OS, don't just bolt ChatGBT into mail or messaging. Make these security things smarter, make for Finder and file management also for third party apps smarter, etc. Now, since you seem to have finished your iPad calculator App, seems a good time start.
Just put Face ID in your machines already for your verifications and let me toggle what kind of security I want on my computer for which I am the solely user. I would upgrade just for avoiding all the effing bombardments.
And while you are at it: if you want to build in AI your OS, don't just bolt ChatGBT into mail or messaging. Make these security things smarter, make for Finder and file management also for third party apps smarter, etc. Now, since you seem to have finished your iPad calculator App, seems a good time start.
Giving users more control over permissions initially was a great idea.
But with so many dialogs and options, I feel it just fires back. Users stop reading what it's about and just click okay okay to proceed. Being forced to re-decide for permissions already given at some point won't help…
But with so many dialogs and options, I feel it just fires back. Users stop reading what it's about and just click okay okay to proceed. Being forced to re-decide for permissions already given at some point won't help…
This is what the phone people want.
since I only upgrade macOS after the new version has been beta tested by users for 300 days, this will not affect me until 2025.. I just installed Sonoma.
In the future, Keyboard Maestro will tap that button long before I even notice it.
since I only upgrade macOS after the new version has been beta tested by users for 300 days, this will not affect me until 2025.. I just installed Sonoma.
In the future, Keyboard Maestro will tap that button long before I even notice it.
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I was assured that people appreciated the privacy and security features that Apple adds to their operating systems. I'm sure this will go over well!
Apple dumbing down macOS so there's no comparisons when trying to sideload apps on iOS.
spent 30 minutes looking at potential linux laptops after reading this