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The battery life issue is real. Removing the time remaining does not solve the problem. If I let my laptop sit with NO applications open and the battery will sometimes drain 10 percent in 30 minutes... If I use Safari with about 4 tabs and browse sites like this, Amazon, Facebook, etc. I can drain my battery in 4-6 hours. If I do the same with Chrome, It drains in 3-5 hours. Well, I should say it did drain at those times. I got a replacement from Apple and have not seen the issue since.
 
Wait... what? They removed a feature that has been with us for 15+ years and that I use almost every day, because they released a thinner laptop with smaller battery???
 
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The time indicator for the battery has always been terrible. It goes up and down depending on what you're doing.

I forget which OS Apple removed the time indicator from being displayed in the menu bar to having to actually check it manually. I think it was Mavericks but I could be wrong. This is certainly a progression of that move. The timing is terrible though. Apple doesn't need any more faux outrage bad P.R. at this point.
 
I think the issue being poked at here is that the marketing doesn't spin: "100% battery life when fully charged"

In other words, it's the marketing claim that makes this an issue. See Plutonius excellent analogy up in post #155.

oh yea true...but anyone who takes a consumer electronics company's battery life claims worth more than a grain of salt is kind of an idiot. its all done in strictly controlled environments with a minimum of drainage factors in order to produce the highest possible number. They say UP TO, and clearly they were not lying as many here have reported they DO see those kinds of times.

Generally, you should be happy to get 5-8 hours out of any laptop battery. More than that is extra
 



macOS Sierra 10.12.2, released this morning, features several key bug fixes and addresses an issue that has plagued some customers who purchased a new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar -- battery life.

Apple believes that the battery life indicator in macOS Sierra is ultimately inaccurate and has led to some confusion about battery performance, and so it has been removed in macOS Sierra 10.12.2.

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Going forward, the battery icon in the Mac's menu bar will offer a look at remaining battery percentage, but it won't provide estimates on how long the MacBook Pro's battery will last. Here's what Apple said about it to The Loop:MacBook Pro buyers have complained about getting less than 10 hours of battery life, reporting as little as three hours of battery life in some cases, but battery performance can vary significantly based on the apps and processes that are running.

Customers with poor performance may be using apps that are not optimized for the new MacBook Pro, and on the 15-inch machine, if an app engages the discrete GPU, battery life takes a significant hit. For MacBook Pro owners who are seeing bad battery life, it's worth checking the Activity Monitor to make sure the dGPU is not in use.

Spotlight indexing, iCloud photo syncing, and other behind-the-scenes processes can also have an impact on battery life, especially when a machine is new.

According to The Loop, Apple has done extensive battery life testing on the MacBook Pro with Touch Bar and continues to stand by its battery life estimates of up to 10 hours. It seems Apple believes reports of bad battery life are largely based on the faulty indicator, but there have been some real world tests that don't rely on the estimate and still show poor performance.

Apple says its new MacBook Pros can get up to 10 hours of battery life when browsing the web or when watching iTunes movies.

Article Link: macOS Sierra 10.12.2 Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator
 
People get so freaked out about both estimated time and percentage of battery, that it is a no-win situation for Apple. A few times I've purposely watched estimated time remaining on my early 2013 15" rMBP, to see how accurate it's estimation is over the course of a work day. It will show ~ 3.5 hours of time remaining, but then an hour later it may say 3.25 hours or 4.5 hours depending on what I have, or have had, running. At the end of the day, all that really matters is whether I can get to the end of the day on battery power.
 
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Yes, I'm not complaining about the (lack of) accuracy. I just think it's funny to completely remove this one feature (that plenty of people use) because it can be inaccurate but leave the other possibly inaccurate measure. Why not just make time remaining opt-in optional?

Well one is certainly more accurate than the other...percentage is more accurate because its like saying how much water is left in the glass rather than how fast you can drink it. If they removed all indicators of battery life, then yes, I would be outraged and jump on the "Apple is covering something up" bandwagon.
 
Are you guys serious? How many users on this forum have been using the indicator as the end all for their battery life? A LOT. Many of whom were enraged that they were getting 3 hours on a full charge without actually timing the battery to realize they were getting much more.

By removing the inaccurate indicator, now Apple can ACCURATELY measure how many batteries are actual lemons, or how bad the software may be optimized because people will complain with legitimacy. Not "I'M AT 100% BUT IT SAYS I have 2:45 HOURS LEFT I'M RETURNING MY MACBOOK AGHHH."
 
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