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macOS Sierra 10.12.2 Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator
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Since when is a new phenomenon. Since the beginning of time this has been true or the introduction of laptops. Hmmm. Cannot get a MacPro with 32GB of ram. Had to buy an iMac. How about making the thing thicker with a battery. Maybe an iCrank. Something with a bicycle peddle on one end and USB-C cable on the other. I can burn calories and power my laptop at the same time. Who would need a battery then. It could be really thin then. Seriously Apple... Think Different....
If you take a minute and think, the battery indicator is a pretty flawed and poor interaction design from a user point of view. As a user, i shouldn't have to constantly click and check a "death timer" that varies greatly over time.
However, the time of the release, which coincides with a REAL battery problem is making this seem worse than it is.
However, the time of the release, which coincides with a REAL battery problem is making this seem worse than it is.
Instead of removing the feature they could you know... fix it.
Yeah but if you have too many programs run at boot, Apple will tell you that your low battery life is caused by that.If you want it back, just install iStat Menus Pro:
The Mac is not limited like iOS is. You can download applications outside of the Mac App Store that do cool things (for now).
/not s.
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Again, I think the issue is Apple's marketing claim vs. a reality at much less for many...
...paired with some consumer frustration at the hard cling to "thinner" by ejecting stuff like some battery...
...and then see what looks like a sly "trick" like this one where it's hard to justify the rationale or timing for implementing this particular change other than to try to address this problem by not really having to do something of substance (aka "you're holding it wrong")...
...and you get a bunch of bashes. I think those that view some halo around Apple try to see this as just an unfortunate timing coincidence. Others see this as tarnishing the halo or worse.
If the bulk of us really coveted "thinner," then stuff like this would be more of a "we brought this on ourselves." But the "thinner" ship has probably long since sailed except in the minds of the product developers at Apple. And now it seems to further "thin" products is to kick useful consumer utility OUT.
Even that might be palatable by the more faithful/fans if, in reducing utility, pricing comes down too. But here, pricing went up.
That's a lot of seemingly UN-Apple-like moves to try to spin away as nothing... even among the more faithful/loyalists/fan segments.
In a bigger picture view: I think many of us are just starving for something great from Apple... something that looks like Apple put it's customers above maximizing every nickel of profit... a classically big innovation that makes us believe they are still on top of their game. But rumor after rumor and action after action seems to be a let down. Where have you gone Apple Dimaggio?
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Apple only disabled it in the GUI of the OS. You can open terminal and type this command :
pmset -g batt
That will give something like that:
http://take.ms/oGxl1
You prefer Apple continued displaying an inaccurate percentage, so you can complain that it is inaccurate?
I have never used time remaining on my mac or iDevices....because it is very inaccurate. If you used it, bummer. The timing is odd given battery complaints on the 2016, but it isn't like you cannot time battery life without it.
If the problem is the time remaining indicator then why wasn't it removed from Sierra prior to the release of the new MacBook Pros? Sierra is also used on the MBA, prior year MBP models, and the MacBook. Using Apple's logic all of these models should be affected. These guys must think customers are stupid. Just admit that battery life for the new MBP isn't as good as expected and fix it next year, but don't insult our intelligence.
I'm usually posting in jest with these news reports that are speaking to bits of compromise or negative news in Apple world, but this is truly disappointing on a couple levels
Not only will it not solve the problem of battery complaints, it pisses me off! It's kind of the final straw of illogical decisions that I have to just accept, or perhaps even bow to... as someone that doesn't have models affected by negative news of bad battery life or even experiential bad battery! Good thing my 2015 rMB will permanently be on El Cap unless performance/power efficiency ever improves on it with Sierra or above, with that particular model
and 10.12.0 has been working relatively really well on my nTB, so.. we'll see
may just stay put
between this, and charging people for phone replacements related to Touch Disease, a widespread problem that a buddy of mine who is a genius says he sees virtually "ALL THE TIME" on 6/6+, (I never was impacted, moved onto 6s+ and 7+ well before it hit the fan) it shows what class Apple is generally exuding these days
And no extension cable, whether people use it or not, in a min $1500+ machine.
And no usb-c cable with $79 usbc power brick, you need to pay a separate $19 for that-- imagine getting a MagSafe adapter, piece mealed
Tim does need to step down, I know he cares about numbers (and of course so did SJ, he didn't exactly run a philanthropic charity) but we need someone who also cares about technology,
Viable competition in terms of a holistic ecosystem, where the HELL are you? Apple is clearly taking advantage of their position
Not only will it not solve the problem of battery complaints, it pisses me off! It's kind of the final straw of illogical decisions that I have to just accept, or perhaps even bow to... as someone that doesn't have models affected by negative news of bad battery life or even experiential bad battery! Good thing my 2015 rMB will permanently be on El Cap unless performance/power efficiency ever improves on it with Sierra or above, with that particular model
and 10.12.0 has been working relatively really well on my nTB, so.. we'll see
may just stay putbetween this, and charging people for phone replacements related to Touch Disease, a widespread problem that a buddy of mine who is a genius says he sees virtually "ALL THE TIME" on 6/6+, (I never was impacted, moved onto 6s+ and 7+ well before it hit the fan) it shows what class Apple is generally exuding these days
And no extension cable, whether people use it or not, in a min $1500+ machine.
And no usb-c cable with $79 usbc power brick, you need to pay a separate $19 for that-- imagine getting a MagSafe adapter, piece mealed
Tim does need to step down, I know he cares about numbers (and of course so did SJ, he didn't exactly run a philanthropic charity) but we need someone who also cares about technology,
Viable competition in terms of a holistic ecosystem, where the HELL are you? Apple is clearly taking advantage of their position
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Ya know.....after 15 years of loyalty......I think I'm kind of done with Apple.
Their collective choices over the past couple of years (particularly 2016) has really tainted the whole "Apple fan" experience. I'm tired of defending them, tired of excusing them and now.....I'm done with promoting them.
Their collective choices over the past couple of years (particularly 2016) has really tainted the whole "Apple fan" experience. I'm tired of defending them, tired of excusing them and now.....I'm done with promoting them.
Agreed. There's a long history of inaccuracies and other issues with this feature.
Plus - News Flash! - laptop battery life is highly variable depending on installed software and personal use case.
I won't miss the time estimate at all. I look at battery percentage and estimate my upcoming intended use.
Hey I agree, but I don't mind them removing it for the time being, weeding out the super complainers and reinstating it once it's accurate and once they have a better handle on what is really going on with the battery.
This post is way too calm and rational. It has been reported to the proper internet authorities, so that a reeducation process based on emotional hyperbole and logical fallacy can begin for said forum member.
Yup, people will be pissed no matter what path they take here...I can tell you from experience, battery life issues are no-win scenarios. So much of it has to do with usage, environment, perception and expectations. Day after day I would get users coming in with "battery life" issues and i check their battery condition and cycles, everything is fine. Battery does not appear to be draining quickly during our appointment. Standby time at 10+ hours. usage, however...
"hmmm so Facebook has used 64% of your battery today..."
"no i don't use it THAT much"
they don't need any more negative press but they had to rip that band aid off
couldn't make it up! A relative had an MRI scan which can be intimidating and noisy. She kept pressing the alarm button but the radiographer explained afterwards that they had to disconnect the button because everyone was pressing it...
Oh okay...I see what Apple defender and Apple company did right there: it's a new feature.
What? It goes up and down depending on what you do? That's quite obvious, especially when later CPUs sat at a nice idle speed and then bumped up during more intensive stuff. Never had a problem with the time counter and was always reliable. Especially over Windows laptops.
No-one's ever complained about it. Apple are panicking. I certainly won't be installing Sierra. The start of this short of crap might lose them customers.
