This is what happens when you make the batteries smaller. You cannot hide the problem Apple.
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macOS Sierra 10.12.2 Removes 'Time Remaining' Battery Life Indicator
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HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
No, how about an Apple that can deliver on their Marketing claims. If they want to spin 10 hours, deliver Macs that run a little over 10 hours.
If that's impossible or if thinner forces them to strip out some battery such that users are only going to see 5-8 hours, spin the thinner and claim 4-7 hours of battery life.
Basically, Marketing should not make claims that can't be realized. That's otherwise called lying. Take Apple out of the conversation. If you bought a product from Samsung and their marketing touted that their product did X, but your own experience with that feature was something inferior to X, do you just forgive Samsung and/or attack fellow consumers on a forum for griping about that marketing claim? Or do you gripe about Samsung marketing claims too? Just because it's Apple here instead of Samsung or Microsoft or Google shouldn't change one's view on marketing claims vs. delivered reality.
If Apple wants thinner at the expense of battery life, claim less battery life in the marketing. Then, there's none of this feeling of inferiority vs. the spin, or some kind of trickery with this particular change to macOS.
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LOL, spin doctors. Takes courage to be this deceitful to your customers. Only Apple can get away with things like this.
Has it dawned on any of the Apple haters, that removing the indicator so that a proper analysis can be done to hunt down a possible bug (if there is one, and I believe there is) makes it easier for Apple's staff, versus leaving the inaccurate indicator in place, thus causing consumers of said product to get confused and upset, thus (possibly) flooding Apple call centers over said inaccurate indicator?
What is going on in Cupertino? One disappointment after another.
That's a useful feature even if it isn't precise to the minute. Remove rather than improve.
You're right, when you're just web browsing or watching a movie, it's great to know about how much time is left. This is especially helpful on a plane. Shady move by Apple, hot on the tail of "releasing" the Airpods that essentially won't be available for 99% of users for a month.
Well,
that certainly is one way to solve this embarrassing problem!
You don't like what the time left says? Now you lose it!
No soup for you!
that certainly is one way to solve this embarrassing problem!
You don't like what the time left says? Now you lose it!
No soup for you!
Somewhat embarrassing that they would remove it only after well-publicized battery complaints...
That said, I've always thought the time remaining battery life indicator was wildly inaccurate and mostly useless anyways, and couldn't care less about it being removed. I've never missed having one on my iPhone or anything.
That said, I've always thought the time remaining battery life indicator was wildly inaccurate and mostly useless anyways, and couldn't care less about it being removed. I've never missed having one on my iPhone or anything.
It wouldn't have happened under Steve Jobs.
There
But seriously, it could have happened under anyone But if they are taking away this feature then they need to stop claiming battery life in their next Mac presentation; and that will probably next be in the 22nd century - since Apple seems to have lost their interest in making computers; just jackin' up prices.
Apple - please make a MacBook (without the pathetic webcam image resolution) and with a 16" screen and a 1 tb ssd; with an affordable price tag
I believe there is a battery problem related to the OS. And I think it is going to take a little time for Apple to find and fix the problem(s).
Apple has never promised 10 hours. Too many people around here are acting as if Apple has, and getting upset with Apple, as if Apple breached terms of a contract or purposefully released a faulty product.
So instead of fixing battery life, they just remove your ability to see how much time is left. Neat!
Apple's new battery indicators
Fully charged battery:
Low battery:
Fully charged battery:
Low battery:
*** just out ***
OPTION WILL BE BACK SOON USING EMOJIS
OPTION WILL BE BACK SOON USING EMOJIS
If you believe that, you're perfect for this forum these days.
So... next time they introduce a new notebook, they won't say that the computer has 10 hour battery life. Instead, they will say that it has 100% charge when battery is full?
Looks like you are assuming Apple is not going to address any potential problem, just because they removed an inaccurate indicator.
Lots of people bashing Apple over this move without any facts to backup the bashing.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Sure there's something they can do. If the marketing messaging does not equal the user reality, they can change the marketing. If this is a real issue- and it doesn't seem to be an issue just 1 or 5 users is having- Apple could retest "normal usage" and change the claim. Hop on over to the spec page right now: http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/ , scroll down to the battery life claims, what are they claiming?
"But there's nothing they can do" is just making an excuse for them. For what exactly? What do you get by making excuse for this corporation? If it's not true, changing the marketing now could save them from a big fat class action suit a few years from now. Yes, changing it now might mean they have to offer some refunds to anyone who asks but that could cost a lot less than a possible class action down the road.
This though- this maneuver of updating the OS and hiding a simple, commonplace measure of battery life (accurate or not) just wreaks of trying to put one over on us consumers... much like the various other times issues have been blamed on users (again, "you're holding it wrong").
Certainly Apple has the ability to make a laptop with enough battery inside to exceed 10 hours of normal use. Did they with this one? I don't know. But the point is if you are going to claim something so impressive in the marketing, be sure you can deliver it. Else, change the claim or make a product that can meet the claim. The alternative is ugly to all but those with the thickest rosy-colored lenses.
Seriously?
Or I'm just making a joke because the situation is funny. Chillax, sir.
HP did this a year ago. Same reason. The more you introduce power saving technologies, the less you can predict usage patterns. Battery remaining indicators have always been a guess. I don't think I've ever got close to the 'up to' on my HP, but then I run some fairly heavy workloads, so I don't expect to. It's still a lot more than 3 hours.
That said, Apple's usually slick marketing department appears to have gone home for the holidays. This stinks of cover-up.
That said, Apple's usually slick marketing department appears to have gone home for the holidays. This stinks of cover-up.
look people no problem, everyone batteries just got much better on all macs.....sorry but not even Microsoft pulled this crap.
Can't believe it took so few year for Microsoft to start being the like apple and apple being like Microsoft . Tim "Ballmer" Cook is doing great.... they can add my 2016 to the returns, what a pathetic way to address the issue
Can't believe it took so few year for Microsoft to start being the like apple and apple being like Microsoft . Tim "Ballmer" Cook is doing great.... they can add my 2016 to the returns, what a pathetic way to address the issue
I bet iOS 10.2.1 will remove the percentage meter for iOS devices to "improve battery life" on iOS devices.
I was too young to remember how Apple was before Steve, but I think it's even worse now. He would fire them all!!!
Great gesture to end the worse year at Apple's history that I can remember, unless you think the billions they got this year are going to save them, Nokia was once huge!
Great gesture to end the worse year at Apple's history that I can remember, unless you think the billions they got this year are going to save them, Nokia was once huge!