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More like "We know the batteries in the new mbp sucks" so we removed the remaining battery indicator... Apple is a PRO.
 
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So by hiding the time remaining we will now get 10 hours of battery life? They're not trying to cover up a problem, right?

Excuse me! Since 'when' did Apple say it was a problem? As far as Apple are concerned the battery life is perfectly fine! They aren't covering anything up.... really..... really really......

I find it a sign of desperation on Apples part, also it makes it a lot less convenient to work how much more battery you have.
 
"Apple says its new MacBook Pros can get up to 10 hours of battery life when browsing the web or when watching iTunes movies."

... and dagnabit, we'll remove anything that says otherwise.
 
all of these apologists, is anyone else saddened by this new direction of apple? this is the same as saying "time doesn't exist!" when your delivery is late or something
What about an obscure release/order time only to be sold out/pushed estimates after 40 minutes...seriously did they only have 1000 or so AirPods in stock/ready to be shipped?

Another botched launch, another botched update. But hey they can say they made the holiday sales.
 
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Time remaining does not have to be accurate. If you watch it and think a little, it does not take much brain power to see the correlation between usage and battery life. Apple should have educated users rather than just removed the indicator. But today, Apple is all about making sure their gear just kinda works with low IQ users. Apple seems to think that is the future. With the politicians they support I have to agree. Its just sad that if you have a little IQ you will be forced to move away from Apple or continued to be insulted.
 
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Haha! We have a problem with battery life, but if we remove the actual time remaining it's no longer a problem. Priceless!

Having just rolled back iOS to 10.1 (the first time I've ever done this) I might just stick on 10.12.1 for a while too.

Almost every step Apple are taking at present suggests they have completely lost their way :(
 
Good riddance. The estimation always fluctuates to a point that it's basically useless anyway—and it's been junk for a long time. I've always just gone by the percentage. That's at least a real number with some tangible meaning. (Who can rely on a number that can jump hours during normal use? It was NEVER reliable.)

So yeah, I guess I should be outraged they removed something that never worked right and realistically can't ever be accurate but something that CAN lead to customer confusion. Uhhh... okay. Outraged? I guess? Or something.



It wasn't even precise to the hour. It was all over the place. If anything, the complaining should be directed at the fact that this was ever even a thing. Unless they were keeping long-term metrics on power usage by the user and, even then, the moment you do something out of the ordinary that drains power things get all messy.



Except my parents, my grandparents, and my kids. But hey, only the technologically literate should be able to use computers, right? (I don't use it.) Fun fact: if you don't use it, you can disable it.

With all that said, I haven't managed to get that much life out of my machine. 7-8 is more realistic. My Air, during "normal" use, was pretty close to Apple's estimate. They can stand by their numbers all they want, but their numbers are grossly optimistic and not particularly realistic.

this....thank you for such a logical post. I always tell customers not to think much about the ESTIMATED time remaining because it fluctuates with usage and is therefore kind of misleading. Removing it now is not 'covering up' its just finally ditching a useless, inaccurate "feature"

cmon apple can't promise release dates for its products, you think they're gonna promise how long your battery will last? :p
 
I would say I get at least 8 hours on my 2016 mbp but this won't affect my life because I quit looking at the time remaining after it became abundantly clear it was BS on my mid 2009.
 
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Its true though that the time left indicator is wrong because it only count on the things the users are doing at the moment when looking at it. I have that it showed 9 hours first after full charge and some safari browsing, then if i did a task for like 10 minutes that used dGPU instead it was showing 3 hours, but after done with that and continued to only do safari i got those 8-9 hours anyway.

yup. it's like the people here have never even noticed this? probably because they never knew it was there, but dammit, i'll be angry about it rather than stop and think for a minute
 
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Allegedly (can't test myself right now, I'm on Mavericks) one can just copy the old battery menu extra over to get the feature back.
MacRumors is going to explode...

"This wouldn't happen if Jobs were here"

(Except for that time they "recalibrated" the signal bars for the iPhone 4 because they "realised" we'd been seeing the wrong signal strength all along..."
Except they just recalibrated it, they didn't remove the signal bars altogether.
 
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