Yeah don't trust the likes of iJustine who will whoop, shriek, and flick her hair. Probably behind another video thumbnail where she doesn't have any bottom teeth.
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macOS Sonoma Drops Support for These Macs
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FWIW personally I'm expecting to use my 2020 Intel MBA QC, so same vintage and not that much slower when not pegging the CPU for long periods of time, another year or year and half or so as my daily driver and pick up the eventual M3 15" MBA to replace it (old MBA is going to be shifted to a linux workstation that can either be docked to one of my eGPUs or taken as needed at that point probably).
I'm in the same boat with you. Just had to replace the HDD half of the fusion drive last week with an SSD so much faster now! I'm sticking with this sucker for a long time I think.
Thanks! I have no idea what that is but will look into it. Does it mess around with SIP and other security features? If so, I'm really wary of mucking around with them. A long time ago, there was something I needed to do with SIP by turning it off or something and at some point it made wonky issues, with if I recall, Bluetooth issues. It was odd.
In my experience, OCLP is extremely advanced and user-friendly, and as long as you're not too eager to install the latest macOS builds – yes, even 1x.x.x point updates – and wait for OCLP itself to be updated before you update macOS, you'll be mostly fine. But in any case, do keep your machines backed up; you may thank me later.
Some jurisdiction may require them to provide security updates and nothing more. Which is in Apple's best interest anyway.
Intels will likely get a Snow Leopard release in ~2025 which will get "point" releases with bugfixes all the way through 2028-2029 while ARM goes forward with major releases.
And importantly - as I forgot to state in my first reply - Apple is still SELLING the M1 Air.
It will have to be a cold day in hell when Apple drops support for a Mac they were still selling only 12-24 months prior.
Difficult to say.
I just ordered the MBA 15" on day one
but it will replace a 13" Early 2015 MBP.Your 2019 machine could do a year longer so you could wait for a M3 MBA.
But only you know whether you are still happy with your MBP 😇
2019 27" iMac Retina 5K does NOT have T2 and made the cut.
Might want to re-read the article. Says 2019 iMac will be supported. Bad wording in headline and bullet list to make you think otherwise, however.
Maybe. But there was no big feature in the last years I really cared about or use on a daily basis.
If Apple was environmently friendly, as they claim, they would provide security updates for older modells much longer. And, more important, they would clearly state for how long updates are provided.
The was an Intel iMac in 2020.
we're seriously on a "5 years and your mac is toast" cycle now? wtf.
It’s clear that support isn’t based on what will run the new software well, it’s completely arbitrary now, and Apple is rushing to drop intel support.
Tough for the 12-inch MacBook. Was thinking Apple would release an M-series 12-13 inch MacBook in a similar form before ceasing software updates. It's hardly 2 pounds, 25% lighter than the current 13-inch MacBook Air.
...but they stopped selling it in 2022. The Intel Mac Pro was on sale until today. The obsolescence clock starts ticking once the machine is discontinued.
This times 10000. If Apple actually caress about the environment, they’d stop arbitrarily dropping support for devices and security support would be much longer.
You should be used to those by now, just think about a 2004 iBook in 2009, and it wasn't even one of the last PPCs.
Intel MBA in 2020 too, I have one
. But I think the OP meant the last *still* being sold.I'd bet we get one more Intel compatible update next year to cover whatever trickle of MPs were sold this year, and then drop support in 2025, leaving MacOS 16 the first to be AS only. What I do wonder about is if they'll keep Rosetta2 around longer than they kept the original, there's a *lot* more x86 compatibility needs than there were PPC ones.
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They should have issued a monitorOS style update to be able to run older iMacs as Thunderbolt monitors, even if that meant never being able to run that iMac as a Mac ever again, or having to dual boot in some fashion. Dropping target display mode only added to the problem. Would have eased the transition from Intel to AS and likely got more on board sooner. Know many who have no plans to update Intel-based iMacs for a long time.
Is not being able to update to the latest software after only 5 years and being ok with it, something I am too European to understand?
Why is it that my very old Mac mini works fine with OpenCore Legacy Patcher and Apple now decides my iMac 2017 basically obsolete for the next operating system. It's just a seems a scam to me. Nothing to do with pushing suckers like us who are tied into the Apple system with phones watches ipads etc into more purchases that we don't really need. Don't give me the computer can't run some features rubbish. Won't wash with me. Shame on you Apple. Shame.