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How long did we wait for the Xbox one ? 13 years lol
Very interesting, thanks. Are you trying to boot off the internal SSD controlled by the T2?
Coselmann
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Message from today 🙁
"Hello everyone,
In June 2025, Apple announced at WWDC25 that macOS Tahoe would be the last release for Intel Macs. Since then, we have known that Tahoe would be the last frontier for the legacy Macs that we have been supporting since Big Sur.
Since the project's future after Tahoe is uncertain, as we do not know if any Apple silicon Macs will become unsupported anytime soon, and if they are, whether developing a patcher is feasible, we have decided to stop taking new donations and cancel any recurring donations at this time. We will also refund any donations made in the last 30 days (the most our platform allows us to do).
We are still working on Tahoe support, but with multiple developers having left the team, development progress has become much slower and more perilous than before. Please remember that OpenCore Legacy Patcher is a hobby project developed by volunteers in their spare time, and our daily lives come first. We are trying our best, but Tahoe has brought significant changes (especially with recent updates), and with fewer developers and less time, we cannot commit to an OCLP update for Tahoe.
Thank you,
The OpenCore Legacy Patcher team"
"Hello everyone,
In June 2025, Apple announced at WWDC25 that macOS Tahoe would be the last release for Intel Macs. Since then, we have known that Tahoe would be the last frontier for the legacy Macs that we have been supporting since Big Sur.
Since the project's future after Tahoe is uncertain, as we do not know if any Apple silicon Macs will become unsupported anytime soon, and if they are, whether developing a patcher is feasible, we have decided to stop taking new donations and cancel any recurring donations at this time. We will also refund any donations made in the last 30 days (the most our platform allows us to do).
We are still working on Tahoe support, but with multiple developers having left the team, development progress has become much slower and more perilous than before. Please remember that OpenCore Legacy Patcher is a hobby project developed by volunteers in their spare time, and our daily lives come first. We are trying our best, but Tahoe has brought significant changes (especially with recent updates), and with fewer developers and less time, we cannot commit to an OCLP update for Tahoe.
Thank you,
The OpenCore Legacy Patcher team"
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john905r
macrumors member
Not a huge shock to be honest. I admire their honesty and their decision not to take further donations and refund recent donations.
Interesting example. The Xbox SoC actually contained ARM cores that have a similar function to the T2 in the Mac. Modern Playstations also have an ARM coprocessor with similar functions.
JulianStaples
macrumors regular
Fair play to the devs for stopping the donations, and another huge thanks for all they've done with this project. ♥️
I guess Sequoia is still a supported OS until late next year, so fingers crossed there'll be one last OCLP miracle performed with Tahoe by then, even just for a limited number of Metal-supported/non-T2 machines. But if not, it's been a hell of a ride. 🫡
I guess Sequoia is still a supported OS until late next year, so fingers crossed there'll be one last OCLP miracle performed with Tahoe by then, even just for a limited number of Metal-supported/non-T2 machines. But if not, it's been a hell of a ride. 🫡
dhinakg
macrumors member
I was, until having to DFU and subsequently losing my 4 macOS installs. Of course, no actual data was lost, but it was really annoying and a lot of time wasted
Sven G
macrumors 6502a
BTW, for a hypothetical post-OCLP era (but let’s hope there will be room for keeping it alive), there are some interesting Linux distributions for our old Intel Macs that offer a partly Mac-like experience: especially with KDE, which supports a global menu natively and also a dock (which can be easily added, after moving the main panel to the top); and some distros, like for example Ubuntu Studio (and even Ubuntu MATE), also have pre-configured macOS-like layouts for the desktop; and finally there’s also the new COSMIC desktop environment, which reminds of a Mac. Also installing Windows 11 can be done, even if it would be an unsupported configuration (no TPM). Anyway, let’s hope that at least Sequoia can be used for another year or more, with an actively developed OCLP; while Tahoe support would of course be good, especially for Xcode: as the next version will require Tahoe, as was said here. Looking forward to OCLP 2.5.0, for now… 😎🙂
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perquesta
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Thanks for the link.This isn’t a problem with the T2 chip, but rather with support for older graphics cards. Tahoe officially runs on Intel machines with a T2 chip as well as on computers without a T2 chip – that is, on Hackintoshes, with the help of OpenCore, of course. There is therefore no logical reason why the T2 chip should prevent older Macs from running Tahoe. If we prepare an installer with the latest version of OC and the appropriate drivers, they will work, but without graphics. So they won’t work properly, but not because of the T2 chip.
The good news is that the OCLP-mod project via Laobamac is continuing now version 3.1.7 :
Releases · laobamac/OCLP-Mod
A mod version for OCLP,with more interesting features. - laobamac/OCLP-Modgithub.com
Using the OCLP-mod I have been able to prepare an installer and with it to install Tahoe on my iMac 18.3 (2017).
The computer appears to be lively, excellent screen and very good sound using Boom 3D.
The only drawback so far is no WI-FI, but that is no problem for me as I use an ethernet connection for my internet.
Looks good! I don't even know if this could work with one of my Kepler 2011 iMacs (ethernet connection would be fine for the moment) but I remember one of the devs stating that the OCLP-mod app was built in developer mode, meaning "sudo without a password". Given that OCLP is running a permanent agent in the background, this would be a factor holding me back (for obvious security reasons).
It's honestly rather interesting to think about, if the Intel T2 chip is already this bad, imagine when apple years later drop the M1 chips and someone (whose sane enough to even try)tries to do it, as far as I know, apple silicon devices don't have a standalone security chip, it's built into the SoC so it would be pretty hard. (Plus the iBoot boot process + a custom bootloader would be pretty hard as is...)
Either way, but if you managed to get it atleast booting it's progress, compared to last year when it was still panicking, either way, all work is respected by y'all
T2 chip is pretty much a need not an optional really, as you mentioned the SSD controller runs through it, touch id, security, passwords and verifications for payments etc.. pretty much nothing works without it.. ( a developer commented his struggles with it a couple of days ago)
The T2 is not just a security chip it's an ARM64 coprocessor that shares a lot of features with the M series Macs including the SSD controller, the boot process and even the DFU process is somewhat similar (just restores the T2 operating system and the SSD though). The Intel side of the machine is controlled by the T2. It actually gets shutdown when the T2 OS is being updated.
deeveedee
macrumors 68000
Tahoe 26.4 RC on PC emulating MacBookPro6,2 (Intel Arrandale CPU, non-metal Nvidia Tesla dGPU). Still amazed that I can install Tahoe, even if it's without root patches. Keepin' the dream alive (on life support) 😉
perquesta
macrumors member
1. Using the link provided by bombadier10, I downloaded the file <OCLP-Mod.pkg>.
2. I opened the file and installed <OCLP-MOD>.
3. Tahoe splits fusion drives (there is one on 18.3) so I installed Tahoe on an external SSD drive.
4. Because the text in <OCLP-Mod> is in Chinese, I also opened the OCLP patcher 2.5 as a guide. The bottom left shows the "Create macOS installer" tab, so using the same tab on the Chinese app I created a macOS installer using a 62GB USB stick and downloaded the Tahoe installer.
5. After the system rebooted I used the top left tab to Build and install Opencore on the USB stick. I rebooted and holding down the Option key installed the EFI on the installer.
6. Opening the installer during a reboot I chose the option to install Tahoe on my SSD. It proceeded normally.
Isn't checkm8 firmware independent? It uses an exploit in the A7-A11 BootROM.
shafez
macrumors 6502
Installed successfully on my late 2013 MBP 11,1 but unfortunately no support for Iris graphics, every thing seem to work fine except for WIFI and Graphics.
Do you mean the OCLP mod 2.5.0 file always from Labomac, or where can I find this file?
thank you
Charmandrigo
macrumors member
how interesting this comes right after someone accused them of scammers to the openinitiative
Neon Ball
macrumors regular
Yeah it was seen better to just end it especially cause Tahoe release is looking more uncertain now with sudden dev departures and such. Dhinak answered the person accusing on the Discord server and clarified things. As it says, work will still continue on Tahoe but it's not yet certain whether a release can be made which is why it's better to not accept donations anymore going forward.
OpenCollective is also pretty strict about that the money is being used only for the project related things, they want reasons and receipts which means the devs could not use the money for things outside of the project. If someone bought something that OpenCollective doesn't approve of, then OpenCollective doesn't reimburse the money and the money goes out of the dev's own pocket. This was one of the reasons why OpenCollective was chosen because money related things can easily get muddy, originally the devs didn't like having money donations at all but due to wishes of multiple people they sought out the best option.
The team has also been always clear that it's a hobby project and all estimates have been "rough estimates", it is not a company or anything behind the project but just few devs in their free time.
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