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macOS Ventura Expected to Launch in Final Week of October With Support for Next 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro
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Apple plans to release macOS Ventura alongside iPadOS 16 during the week of October 24, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman. In his latest newsletter, Gurman said the first version of macOS Ventura adds support for new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models, which are expected to be released in the "near future."
The new MacBook Pro models will be available with M2 Pro and M2 Max chip options, but other changes will be minimal, according to Gurman.
While he expects new iPad Pro models with the M2 chip to be announced in "a matter of days," Gurman said the new MacBook Pros are unlikely to be released alongside the next iPad Pro. Instead, he said the new MacBook Pros are "on track to launch in the near future" and noted that Apple has often launched new Macs in November, such as the original 16-inch MacBook Pro in 2019 and the first Macs with the M1 chip in 2020.
Gurman reiterated that Apple is working on an updated Mac mini with an M2 chip. Apple last updated the Mac mini with the M1 chip in 2020, and it continues to sell higher-priced Intel configurations with Core i5 and Core i7 processor options.
Apple still has no plans to hold an October event this year, according to Gurman:Apple's software engineering chief Craig Federighi and marketing chief Greg Joswiak are set to speak at the WSJ Tech Live event on the evening of October 25. It's likely that Federighi and Joswiak will discuss macOS Ventura and iPadOS 16 — hopefully including the controversy surrounding the new Stage Manager feature.
iOS 16.1 will likely launch alongside iPadOS 16.1 and macOS Ventura with many new features for the iPhone, including Live Activities in third-party apps.
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Hey Joe, joe@macrumors.com
The title of this article REALLY needs to be changed as a possible perception reads (to me at least) that macOS Ventura can be supported by M2 iPad Pro's.
"macOS Ventura Expected to Launch in Final Week of October With Support for New 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro"
I heard a rumor that 640K is all you'll ever really need. 🤣
I am tempted to sell my M1 MBA and M1 11" iPad Pro and then get a 14" M2 MBP.
What is the likelihood we will get HDMI 2.1 with the new MBP?
I don't understand why Apple needs to have both a 13" and 14" Macbook Pro M2, especially with a 13" Macbook Air. That is where I would merge them together at some point into one product line.
But I would think that they would have some event for the Ventura OS update.
Now the big question is if they will do a software dynamic island type of thing on these new laptops and if the notch gets removed in favor of being able to use a cellphone camera as the front facing camera...
But I would think that they would have some event for the Ventura OS update.
Now the big question is if they will do a software dynamic island type of thing on these new laptops and if the notch gets removed in favor of being able to use a cellphone camera as the front facing camera...
Um, okay. Did you upgrade your Intel Macs with each tick and tock processor generation? If not, why would it be remarkable that you’re not doing an upgrade no one is expected to do?
The problem is that M processors are primary mobile. What's their biggest advantage is their biggest limitation in the same time. They are great with the own embedded graphic processor, but can't compete with truly high-end pci graphic cards like Nvidia or AMD. What's the point for making the iPad or Macbook without the advantage of mobility by putting the same hardware into a desktop box? Moreover when you increase the price? That's why we have plenty of portables and no truly desktops on the way.
The 13" Macbook Pro makes a lot more sense when you realize it's really the Macbook SE — an old chassis with parts they can pump out hela cheap, with occasional spec bumps.
Hope your 2019 lasts a long time for you. I doubt Boot Camp is ever coming to M series chips.
Jumped into Ventura for the first time given its imminent release. Unpopular opinion: I'm totally getting Stage Manager. It was confusing for about 2 minutes before I abandoned my old habit of manually minimizing apps I no longer want to see and realizing that Stage Manager's role is to clear the clutter by letting you focus on one app at a time. When I habitually need 2 apps side by side, I create a space for them. I no longer minimize apps.
The way I'm looking at Stage Manager is that it's a more dynamic version of the minimized windows in the Dock, except that it takes care of minimizing apps for you in app groups, rather than you having to do it manually. Once I saw it that way, it all made sense.
Stage Manager isn't about creating yet another window management system for macOS that nobody asked for, it's about introducing one that also works in an iPad context so that users can find consistency across devices. I'll continue to use this ahead of buying the new iPad Pro and going back to working with both Mac and iPad, picking up the tool that works best for what I'm doing and eliminating the friction of having two wildly differing user interface languages.
The way I'm looking at Stage Manager is that it's a more dynamic version of the minimized windows in the Dock, except that it takes care of minimizing apps for you in app groups, rather than you having to do it manually. Once I saw it that way, it all made sense.
Stage Manager isn't about creating yet another window management system for macOS that nobody asked for, it's about introducing one that also works in an iPad context so that users can find consistency across devices. I'll continue to use this ahead of buying the new iPad Pro and going back to working with both Mac and iPad, picking up the tool that works best for what I'm doing and eliminating the friction of having two wildly differing user interface languages.
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Second unpopular opinion. The Settings app came out great. Yes, there were lot's of bugs, visual inconsistencies, UI experimentation and other growing pains in the betas but... that's the point of a beta process. Figures, people complaining about beta software not looking finished.
It's great to have macOS consistent with Settings in iOS and macOS that we're all long used to by now.
It's great to have macOS consistent with Settings in iOS and macOS that we're all long used to by now.
Doubtful, because you don't have HDCP supported for external displays via HDMI if I am not mistaken.
Earlier changes to the previous MacOS system settings that were more separated showed Apple returned many times in MacOS revisions to fix how it worked. The Ventura system settings are likely to follow that path after this initial release.
Unfortunately M chips seem to have run out of steam. The start 2 years ago (November 2020) was great, performance was high.
Then there was extremely slow rollout of higher end chips – M1 Pro, Max, Ultra (who does that?! look at Intel and AMD, the best chips are released first for power hungry pro users).
Then M2 was released with rather lackluster performance improvements and worse thermal characteristics. (Almost overlapping with M1 Ultra, so now you are paying 5K+ for previous gen chip in Mac Studio? Doesn't make sense.)
So now we are supposed to wait another 2 years and hope M3 does OK? Meanwhile AMD and Intel aren't resting on their laurels and releasing one new generation after another.
Pretty much the same in a different form factor, slightly or significantly. For a broad swath of folks, you could put them in front of an Apple IIGS an iPad, and a Mac Studio and they’d end up doing pretty much the same things… with allowances for scale (editing pictures with millions of colors instead of 256, having 99 tracks in the music editor instead of 8, etc.) And, as always, there will be folks buying their first system that will be excited about the possibilities, some buying their third that’s wondering why it’s not really that much different and those buying their 8th that will likely never buy another one.
I'm guessing the updated MacBook Pros will be coming in the new color variants. In which case going to be hard to pass up, I mean who wouldn't want a MacBook in a Midnight finish? IMO it really should have been implemented earlier, there's really no Space in the Space Gray MBPs lol.
I think the general thought of a predictable evolution of Apple Silicon is diffidently in question. Some here think AS SoC's are almost an annual improvement process. Others see that Apple has a longer process to releasing more powerful/complex SoC's that are eventual paired with the base itrideration M1-> M2 -> M3.
All you got right now is the M2 that is a improvement over the original M1, we don't have any basis to guess about more powerful AS SoCs except to guess when they might come out, and which might be used in new products.
The promised Mac Pro still haven't arrived and that makes all of this more of a mystery then something you could have an analyst make predictions.
I am in a bubble considering I am participating on a website not trafficked by your average user. But here I am, just booted up my 2015 MBP and replying to you in Safari on Catalina. The reason why I was doing this, something is wrong with VirtualBox 7 on my Windows laptop, so I was hoping I had a backup on my Intel Mac I could copy over. But it just shows how spoiled we are these days. At the same time, what more can we do or expect from these systems? BTW, I have a playlist playing in iTunes 2.0 on my vintage PowerBook G4 running Mac OS 10.1; something I could do just as well on my MacBook Pro M1. Sigh, #firstworldproblemsiguess
Unfortunately my M1 Max MBP developed two patches of dead pixels several months after I bought it (which I did not seek repairs for), so in a sense I am in need of an upgrade, though likely I will not be upgrading this year. What I am most interested in is an M2 Pro Mac Mini, but I will believe it when I see it. I still find it hard to believe they would continue to keep the Intel Mac Mini around if they were not planning on replacing it. Someone mentioned the iMac Pro discontinuation, but they discontinued the iMac Pro right when the 24" iMac came out. Discontinuations often seem to correspond with the release of new products (even if that product is not a direct successor). The 27" iMac was discontinued right when the Mac Studio came out. I guess we shall see.
Want a laugh, look at the almost mothballed trade in process Apple runs.
Apple Trade In
From now until 18 June, get extra trade-in credit towards a new iPhone. Save $200-$650 in credit when you trade in iPhone 12 or higher. Terms apply.
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What a change from 3-4 years ago.
The Forbes link a few posts above yours says Apple is planning an event in November just for the Mac Pro.