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There is absolutely no need for a special event on spec bumped products. A Tuesday press release for a spec bump was normal for a long time. Unless the product is re-designed or new, a press release is more than sufficient absent an event that they're holding anyhow at the same time.

As someone who has 0 need for a Mac Pro, I can't wait for that event. An M1X to M2X bump.... just do the press release.
 
I have the beta on one of my M1's and I've used Stage Manager a grand total of one time.

Otherwise, Ventura seems like a decent update, even if I don't like what they did to system preferences.
Stage manager should’ve never existed on macOS, period. It’s inferior in every way compared to iPadOS counterpart and any existing macOS multitasking features. I don’t know why Apple even bother wasting their engineers time to develop that.
 
I'm guessing the updated MacBook Pros will be coming in the new color variants. In which case going to be hard to pass up, I mean who wouldn't want a MacBook in a Midnight finish? IMO it really should have been implemented earlier, there's really no Space in the Space Gray MBPs lol.
Midnight Blue is the WORST colour you can get. Check out all the videos on how it's a FINGER PRINT magnet and how easily the paint chips around the ports. It is going to look real bad in couple of years when you try to sell it.
 
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It's applecare'd for infinity.



I disagree.
Craig Federighi (Apple VP of software engineering) speaking about the new M processors: "We’re not direct booting an alternate operating system. Purely virtualization is the route. These hypervisors can be very efficient, so the need to direct boot shouldn’t really be the concern."
 
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It's a shame Apple didn't maintain a LTS MacOS like Mojave for the next ten years to keep getting security updates.

I'll give this one thing to Microsoft, you can run windows 10 on old machines to new machines, you're not forced to buy new hardware to get new security updates.
This is one thing I don't like about Apple. Hell, even my Mid 2012 cMBP that I'm still using today is more than fine for basic tasks. But Catalina will likely stop getting security updates as soon as the new OS drops here since it will be over 2 generations old at that point. I kind of wish apple would dial back the yearly OS releases to every other year, or alternate new features/stability update years and make the stability update long term support OS's. Then they can cut down the number of OS's they have to support for extended periods drastically.
 
Boot Camp for M1/M2 Macbook Pros would be awesome!
It would be, but as you can see the deplorable state that iTunes for Windows is in right now, Apple just straight up doesn't want to support Windows anymore...they are already up to their feet with regards to Stage Manager, and the less software they have to support, the better....
 
I want to get excited about Macbook Pros, but I just can't until they get Boot Camp. I guess I will ride my 2019 forever.
The only trouble with Boot Camp is that then you run Windoze... ;~)

Seriously though, I would look first to Parallels.
 
No Mac Pro this year if we don’t get an event. Apple didn’t complete their 2 year transition to Apple Silicon, like they originally planned.
Its just that not many are calling for one and I believe the Mac Studio was their way of gauging the market for something like the Mac Pro. Apple as much as they claim they are not about quantity, but quality, they really are. The Mac Pro is niche, not high volume. Apple could easy wait until the current 2019 Intel Mac Pro is EOL before they release a Apple Silicon model.
 
Midnight Blue is the WORST colour you can get. Check out all the videos on how it's a FINGER PRINT magnet and how easily the paint chips around the ports. It is going to look real bad in couple of years when you try to sell it.
I agree. I really wanted Midnight Blue, but because of the finger print issue, I passed.
 
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It's a shame Apple didn't maintain a LTS MacOS like Mojave for the next ten years to keep getting security updates.

I'll give this one thing to Microsoft, you can run windows 10 on old machines to new machines, you're not forced to buy new hardware to get new security updates.
Especially since Mojave is the last 32 bit compatible OS. For that matter they never bothered to write a Metal driver for the stock video card in a 2012 Mac Pro. Mine keeps nagging me to install Mohave, but it won't install without a vidoecard that no longer is made. So a dual core 2012 Mac min can run Catalina, but a six-core 2012 Mac Pro can not.
 
Especially since Mojave is the last 32 bit compatible OS. For that matter they never bothered to write a Metal driver for the stock video card in a 2012 Mac Pro. Mine keeps nagging me to install Mohave, but it won't install without a vidoecard that no longer is made. So a dual core 2012 Mac min can run Catalina, but a six-core 2012 Mac Pro can not.
If you are willing to get a new GPU card for your Mac Pro, the thread below might help.

 
If Ventura is going to be anything like the iOS 16 update debacle has been on my iPhone SE2, definitely a very easy on updating to it once it’s released.
 
I feel like we are reaching a peak with all of Apple's product line.
I believe that the phone and the iPad will be superseded by Apple's AR/VR products, but the Mac will persist as the development platform until someone comes up with a way to write code in a 3D environment that beats a keyboard.

There's a shift in computing coming, from 2D GUI to 3D immersive UI, and that shift will be bigger than when we went from the command line to the GUI.
 
What's the point for making the iPad or Macbook without the advantage of mobility by putting the same hardware into a desktop box?

Power efficiency. The CPU on my Intel MBP ran hot as hell whenever I plugged in an external monitor, giving rise to annoying fan noise. I’ve never heard the fans switch on at all with my M1 MAX MBP.
 
It's a shame Apple didn't maintain a LTS MacOS like Mojave for the next ten years to keep getting security updates.

I'll give this one thing to Microsoft, you can run windows 10 on old machines to new machines, you're not forced to buy new hardware to get new security updates.

I couldn't agree more. My 2008 Mac Pro would be long dead with OS X El Capitan if it wasn't for Windows 10 which is still getting plenty of updates. And this is why I fear a perfectly capable Apple Silicon machine could be labeled 'obsolete', 'vintage' and the likes just because Apple couldn't bother to support it anymore.
 
Power efficiency. The CPU on my Intel MBP ran hot as hell whenever I plugged in an external monitor, giving rise to annoying fan noise. I’ve never heard the fans switch on at all with my M1 MAX MBP.
You didn't get my point. M1 processors are great for portables, no discussion. That's why we have so many Macbooks and they are upgraded sooner than anything else. I was talking about a lack of real desktops. If M processors can't work with PCI cards (specially graphics), memory slots, SSD cards etc., there is no point to make a "desktop" computer. You can buy M1 MAX MBP and plug it to a monitor and it's even a better deal than to buy the same powerful and efficient M1 MAX Studio. No advantage to have a desktop.
 
You didn't get my point. M1 processors are great for portables, no discussion. That's why we have so many Macbooks and they are upgraded sooner than anything else. I was talking about a lack of real desktops. If M processors can't work with PCI cards (specially graphics), memory slots, SSD cards etc., there is no point to make a "desktop" computer. You can buy M1 MAX MBP and plug it to a monitor and it's even a better deal than to buy the same powerful and efficient M1 MAX Studio. No advantage to have a desktop.

I get your general point but this is definitely wrong. M1 Max on Studio costs less than M1 Pro on MBP.
 
Yes, but you can't be in the coolest clique unless you own everything Apple sells. ;)

Worse, any friends with X-ray vision may look inside and see that 1 is painted on the M chip instead of a 2. :eek: Heaven forbid friends & strangers discover you aren't using the 2. :eek::eek:

My MacBook Pro is so old, people would likely believe me if I said it's a beta of an M3 MacBook... It's just bulkier to fit all the testing sensor things.

It's old but yeah, it browses MacRumors nicely.
 
I get your general point but this is definitely wrong. M1 Max on Studio costs less than M1 Pro on MBP.
Again, not the main point. I would pay few hundred more for perfectly portable MacBook instead of Studio any time. Moreover when I get (and need) the second monitor (lid) and Touch ID included in the Macbook price. But when we talk about the Mac Pro price, it's much bigger so tell me who would be willing to pay much more for a "pro desktop" with no ability to expand / change components? Idea of putting 2, 4 or even 8 (sure efficient) but still just mobile processors doesn't change anything. You still can't compete with the real desktop where you can switch the graphic card for the new generation / expand memory / change ssd when needed.
 
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