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Wow. MacRumors.com is virtually useless now without the RSS feeds working properly. Why do so many sites "update" their layouts and web designs without actually testing all of the features first these days? I setup three separate feeds to test which one would work best for me, none of them updated after the site redesign until sometime overnight last night, and now they aren't updating again. What gives?

RSS feeds are updating just fine. Are you using the ones listed in the article? What reader are you using?
 
I've had no issues with RSS feeds and I touched nothing after the update. The only difference is getting full articles now.
 
It looked better before with the Minimal safari plugin:
http://cornellcampbell.com/extensions/#MacRumorsMinimalExt

Shame it doesn't work now.

But still its a good improvement.

It's updated to work with the new design.

Also, while most people really liked the extension, a few people complained that it stopped the ads from loading. Well, that was less an anti-ad campaign, and more to speed up the site (to the tune of some 4-5 second faster load time). However, now that macrumors loads *much* quicker, I'm no longer blocking the ads from loading. The extension still *hides* the ads, but they still load, and thus at least the pageviews still count.
 
Good way to vote on an article.

Find it's forum thread, and like the news post up or down.

:confused:

Umm... NO. That defeats the purpose of having voting on the front page where the article is, to get an instant snapshot of what people are thinking about a particular article. Having to switch to the forums to see is retarded.

We want the front page article voting BACK, the way it was.
 
RSS feeds are updating just fine. Are you using the ones listed in the article? What reader are you using?

I've had no issues with RSS feeds and I touched nothing after the update. The only difference is getting full articles now.

Yes, I'm using the ones quoted in the article, and I'm using the latest Safari on 10.6.7. The RSS feeds finally started working properly again a short while after my original post. But back to my original question, why didn't they work for 5 days? In this day and age, that is inexcusable for a site like this.

JEFF
 
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Useless without RSS? Geez, I haven't used RSS yet. HTF do I mange to survive? I don't do Facebook or Twitter either. The horror. :eek:

For those of us that spend our time viewing more than one site, yes, it is useless without RSS. Maybe you should give it a try. It's amazing how much time I realized I was wasting BEFORE I started using RSS once I finally did use it.

Do you still use dialup too? :rolleyes:

JEFF
 
For those of us that spend our time viewing more than one site, yes, it is useless without RSS. Maybe you should give it a try. It's amazing how much time I realized I was wasting BEFORE I started using RSS once I finally did use it.

I didn't say it wasn't useful, but I wouldn't use the word "useless" without it (i.e. Hence how did I manage all these years?). If I check here once a day, that's good enough. If I'm bored, I might check for replies to subscribed threads. What's RSS going to do? Make me spend more time reading things I don't want to read right then while doing something else? Every time I bring up the web browser for something else I might have updates waiting for me. It'd be too tempting to look at them. I waste enough time on sites like this arguing with people I shouldn't waste my time arguing with (this post for example).

Do you still use dialup too? :rolleyes:

Yes, the two have so much in common. :rolleyes:
 
Yes, I'm using the ones quoted in the article, and I'm using the latest Safari on 10.6.7. The RSS feeds finally started working properly again a short while after my original post. But back to my original question, why didn't they work for 5 days? In this day and age, that is inexcusable for a site like this.

JEFF

There was a bug in the feed that affected Safari's RSS reader selectively, and not consistently. The feeds worked for most other readers.

arn
 
For those of us that spend our time viewing more than one site, yes, it is useless without RSS. Maybe you should give it a try.

Ok, I gave it a try. It seems completely worthless/useless to me. The only feed I see on most sites is for all new messages/posts. WTF on earth would I want to read all new posts? I really would be there all day trying to find something useful. Now if I could set it up so all the forums I visit show up as one new "new messages in subscribed threads" it might be useful, but that's impossible from what I've read for most sites. I don't even see a 'new articles' RSS feed from MacRumors so I cannot even get a quick update on that through it. In short, I don't see how it's supposed to be useful at all, let alone make the site worthless without it (unless of course you want to read all posts on all forums you visit and want a quick list of all of them.... I can't be bothered to read all posts.) Maybe I missed something?
 
Geesh there certainly are a quite a few whiners in this thread. :p

I think the redesign looks pretty good. My only complaint would be some minor inconsistent UI. There are quite a few elements; reply buttons, reply box, folder icons, that seem a little out of place with the new design.

I appreciate that we can switch to an adjustable content width layout, but I was under the impression that fixed width designs were a little outdated. Then again Facebook uses fixed.

All in all there's just a little clean up of the previous design still lingering that needs to be done, after that the site will look pretty alright. :)


Thanks for the awesome site guys!
 
Geesh there certainly are a quite a few whiners in this thread. :p

I think the redesign looks pretty good. My only complaint would be some minor inconsistent UI. There are quite a few elements; reply buttons, reply box, folder icons, that seem a little out of place with the new design.

I appreciate that we can switch to an adjustable content width layout, but I was under the impression that fixed width designs were a little outdated. Then again Facebook uses fixed.

All in all there's just a little clean up of the previous design still lingering that needs to be done, after that the site will look pretty alright. :)


Thanks for the awesome site guys!

I think the point that Arn was trying to make earlier in the thread is basically that fixed width allows the designers to maintain some degree of control over how the page looks to viewers - it's kind of the digital equivalent to printing a page. If the content is allowed to scale to any size screen, there is no telling how the page elements are going to align.

Now, for a complex page like the NYT, I can see the need for this. For a blog format, less so - but the point still holds. That said, my complaint was less about the fixed width front-page, but the general enlargement of fonts and padding, and the removal of a great deal of content from the front page. Ultimately, I'd prefer fixed width on the front page, and fluid in the forums.
 
Ok, I gave it a try. It seems completely worthless/useless to me. The only feed I see on most sites is for all new messages/posts. WTF on earth would I want to read all new posts? I really would be there all day trying to find something useful. Now if I could set it up so all the forums I visit show up as one new "new messages in subscribed threads" it might be useful, but that's impossible from what I've read for most sites. I don't even see a 'new articles' RSS feed from MacRumors so I cannot even get a quick update on that through it. In short, I don't see how it's supposed to be useful at all, let alone make the site worthless without it (unless of course you want to read all posts on all forums you visit and want a quick list of all of them.... I can't be bothered to read all posts.) Maybe I missed something?

I never said I used RSS on the forums. I specifically said MacRumors.com, which is what this thread was originally about. With that said, however, there are several other web sites, forums, and bulletin board services that I do read via RSS. It is because it is much easier for me to scroll through a single list of new site updates or posts, selecting only the ones I want to actually read rather than having to click through all of them. However, in the case of these forums, you are right, there is much too much information for RSS to work effectively.

As far as my comment about dialup is concerned, it was a joke. It was a reference to you not using "newer" technology or whatever you want to call it...

JEFF
 
There was a bug in the feed that affected Safari's RSS reader selectively, and not consistently. The feeds worked for most other readers.

arn

Thank you for the explanation Arn. Skimming, scrolling, and searching through hundreds of forum posts, I could find no specific answer. I truly appreciate all the work you and others have done over the years. I was just frustrated that I had read several other posts from people reporting the same problem, but could find no response to any as to why.

JEFF
 
We want the front page article voting BACK, the way it was.

Exactly. What's the final word on this : why did the voting disappear, and why can't we get it back? After all it was a unique MR feature and we got used to it after all these years.

=> Please Arn, give it back :eek:
 
Exactly. What's the final word on this : why did the voting disappear, and why can't we get it back? After all it was a unique MR feature and we got used to it after all these years.

=> Please Arn, give it back :eek:

It really got abused. There wasn't much meaning behind the voting either.
 
Exactly. What's the final word on this : why did the voting disappear, and why can't we get it back? After all it was a unique MR feature and we got used to it after all these years.

=> Please Arn, give it back :eek:
Not having it in the new design is a real loss. Your site used to have a community feel because of this. Now it's just like any other in-your-face news site.

When I scan the front page for news I'll look at the title of the post, then scan down to see the pulse of the community. If there are a lot of votes and they're heavy to either side it's easy to tell if the story is something to be excited about or pissed off about. It really made the site unique.


Now, instead of seeing the positive / negative vote I just see how many comments. Whoop-dee-doo. If I want to get a feel for the reaction I have to go wade through all the comments. Ugh.

I hope you find a way to bring that back. Without it I may become less addicted to your site. And I don't run any ad blockers in my browser.
 
Not having it in the new design is a real loss. Your site used to have a community feel because of this. Now it's just like any other in-your-face news site.

When I scan the front page for news I'll look at the title of the post, then scan down to see the pulse of the community. If there are a lot of votes and they're heavy to either side it's easy to tell if the story is something to be excited about or pissed off about. It really made the site unique.


Now, instead of seeing the positive / negative vote I just see how many comments. Whoop-dee-doo. If I want to get a feel for the reaction I have to go wade through all the comments. Ugh.

I hope you find a way to bring that back. Without it I may become less addicted to your site. And I don't run any ad blockers in my browser.

It doesn't matter if you don't run any ad blockers....it only matters if you actually click the ads.

I don't think that the story voting added anything to the site. I prefer the site without it. I don't think it helped with anything.

I disagree that it made it seem like more of a community feel. How would it do this if the votes are private? It's not like you could tell who voted for what. The reason this place feels like a community is because when you read through the posts, you read comments made by members that you know or are familiar with. That's what makes it a community. It's like saying that you feel like you're more a part of the community you live in because people vote in elections.
 
I disagree that it made it seem like more of a community feel. How would it do this if the votes are private? It's not like you could tell who voted for what. The reason this place feels like a community is because when you read through the posts, you read comments made by members that you know or are familiar with. That's what makes it a community. It's like saying that you feel like you're more a part of the community you live in because people vote in elections.
Well, I disagree with your disagreement :D

How would it do this if the votes are private you ask. It's true that the votes are private. If you want to know how people voted just look at the comments. You'll find people freely sharing their feedback about why they think a particular rumor is BS or why they're super-excited about the possibility of the next MacBook Air weighing in at 9 ounces and only 10 mm thin. If you wanted a summary of the comments you could get that from the vote count on the front page.

Just because *you* didn't like a feature of the site or think it's useful doesn't mean that I can't like that feature or find value in it. And by *you* I mean not just you Surely, but other posters who gave similar responses earlier in the thread.
 
How would it do this if the votes are private you ask. It's true that the votes are private. If you want to know how people voted just look at the comments.

I've always looked at it as a community POLL to get an idea of how people feel about a given article as a community. Of course, people don't have to vote and sometimes it's hard to tell what they feel given the way the articles are worded (what part are they voting positive/negative against?). But in some cases it's very clear. For example, if an article announced no USB3 on the latest MBP and it shows 30 up and 300 down, it's a pretty good indicator that most people bothering to vote in that thread don't like that decision and it also would tell you that those people wanted USB3 on Macs, regardless of their feelings for TB (and if the poll numbers went the opposite way, it would mean most Mac people on here don't give a crap about USB3). I still find that useful and I would want my votes to be private in some cases. If people want to vent their ideas, that's what the forum discussions are for.
 
Like the new design, it's more like a blog now and has a cleaner, simpler interface. The only negative is that I missed the "Like/ Dislike" voting under each news like we used to have. I think I miss seeing how people reacts to the specific news because it's just fun to know and urge you to find out more about the certain article. :rolleyes:
 
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