I know of one major newspaper that was going to replace photographers with journalists with iPhones.
But I'm not talking about that, but about people who just don't pay attention to proper cameras anymore and use phones the whole time.
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But I'm not talking about that, but about people who just don't pay attention to proper cameras anymore and use phones the whole time.
Depending on how you put the phone into your pants pocket:
Is that a DSLR in your pants or an iPhone
or are you just happy to see me?
I agree, these shots are excellent for an iPhone,...and that's what we should be judging by...I used to be a professional photographer,...I still have my full frame 5DmkII along with my trusted 50mm portrait lens,...I pull it out about 10-12 times per year to take pictures of my kids....now would I confuse photos from the two cameras? Probably not...am I impressed by these sample images from average users? Very much so...not because they are well framed, or not because they provide perfect professional style portrait shots, but because they are coming from the phone in my pocket...because with time, with the right light, we now can get the types of pictures we always felt we needed a big DSLR for...my photo library of my family is about 30,000 strong...I would say about 10% came from a DSLR...so if the 90% could start to get better from generation to generation of mobile phone,...then that makes me happy...
This is good! The photos are lovely, the feature itself needs work.. I mean this is a great first step, but look at that roof in the first pic.. Ooouuuch. That's not the effect Apple are trying to emulate at all. That's not even remotely what it comes out like in real "out of focus".. Once they've figured out things like that though it's nice.. Seems to work best when there's lots of detail at all distances.
Edit: Also the fact that this is waterproof(enough) and pocketable, it's clearly a great complimentary step.
Edit: Also the fact that this is waterproof(enough) and pocketable, it's clearly a great complimentary step.
No - not most places. But I personally don't think I would use this effect on my phone given the results. I would rather shoot it normally and do my own blur effects when/if I wanted to. Did you see the odd borders on the images in the thread mentioned. Maybe when reduced down to a mobile screen they look perfect - but not full size/desktop size. Also I'm not really sure you can call the effect in the photos I've seen bokeh. They simply look DoF blur.
Here's an example of bokeh - it's not just about blur.
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Exactly.
Depth of field? My god, welcome to 1884.... 
Seriously, this is why people still need real cameras with manual controls. That's nice that a phone can act like a camera in a pinch, but there are nice pocket sized digital cameras that have so much more control and without having to fiddle with touch-screens (real dials are so much nicer for making quick setting changes, even while looking through the lens).
Seriously, this is why people still need real cameras with manual controls. That's nice that a phone can act like a camera in a pinch, but there are nice pocket sized digital cameras that have so much more control and without having to fiddle with touch-screens (real dials are so much nicer for making quick setting changes, even while looking through the lens).
The halo effect is a huge giveaway. It's a pity, but let's hope they can improve it over time. The removal of the cat's hair was also very noticible.
Great comparisons though MR and well done for comparing to a real SLR, albeit a Sony!
Great comparisons though MR and well done for comparing to a real SLR, albeit a Sony!
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No kidding. I love all the wound up "Pro"
comments. Halos, bokeh, blur. Next we will have comments about alias filtering being sub par, and how the IS is sub par compared to the Nikkor 200-400 VR. I don't take my D700 everywhere I go. I take my phone. For the purpose this is intended for at this time I find it impressive at this stage of development. So let's get off the "It aint no DSLR bandwagon." Too many Arm Chair Gear Heads in here. But just like BT headphones, the masses will never notice the difference...
It's interesting that they're replacing lens effects with processed effects. I guess it's the only way they can compete considering the size of the lens they have.
I have no intention of getting rid of my SLR but I'm glad that others photos on Twitter and Facebook will look much better!
I have no intention of getting rid of my SLR but I'm glad that others photos on Twitter and Facebook will look much better!
It's certainly interesting and looks like it will be fun for many to use...
But the effect is rather unnatural looking since you have a large depth of field for your foreground and then suddenly everything beyond that is rather uniformly blurred.
I guess on the one had it means you don't have to worry about getting the focus just right. On the other hand, you could just do this from a normal photo in Photoshop and even a bit more accurately at that.
But the effect is rather unnatural looking since you have a large depth of field for your foreground and then suddenly everything beyond that is rather uniformly blurred.
I guess on the one had it means you don't have to worry about getting the focus just right. On the other hand, you could just do this from a normal photo in Photoshop and even a bit more accurately at that.
I like having a 50mm lenses. Very useful thing. So glad to have it on my new 7.
But calling the 50mm lens "telephoto" or this silly half-ass artificial effect, ... It's just kinda embarrassing for Apple.
But calling the 50mm lens "telephoto" or this silly half-ass artificial effect, ... It's just kinda embarrassing for Apple.
You all know how machine learning works, right...? This will only get better with time/the more pictures people take. Why do you think they released it in beta? Aside from that alone, can't think of any technical reasons they couldn't just test this internally, and the obvious answer is that the neural net needs more data points. Give it time and it will get better. Not the same as a real lens, but still much better than any other smartphone.
Very well said!Depth of field? My god, welcome to 1884....
Seriously, this is why people still need real cameras with manual controls. That's nice that a phone can act like a camera in a pinch, but there are nice pocket sized digital cameras that have so much more control and without having to fiddle with touch-screens (real dials are so much nicer for making quick setting changes, even while looking through the lens).
All this drivel about bokeh this and that.
Bokeh being nothing more than a 1998 label for a centuries old technique that's best accomplished using a conventional film or digital camera with manual controls.
The camera on an iPhone is nice for what it is, but please... it's just a basic camera with a little help from Apple.
For people that really know photography well i.e. Photographers, it's noticeable but the average person that just wants an awesome photo won't know and likely doesn't care...
Faux-keh
Creating fake blurred backgrounds since 2016
Creating fake blurred backgrounds since 2016
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Do you mean non-Plus iPhones? Don't hold your breath for that, bucko. iOS' depth of field can only be simulated while utilizing two lenses.
Exactly.
It's a choice. It's not meant to replace a DSLR, it's just a choice on your phone.
No kidding. I love all the wound up "Pro"
Sounds like the ones wound up are the ones that are trying to criticize those who aren't jumping on the omg amazing bandwagon. We know it's not a dSLR and will never be. That doesn't mean we can't offer an opinion - which is no different than you offering yours - that is contrary.
I think they are impressive images. But I prefer the straight image that the iphone produces vs those created with this effect "as is." That's not being an armchair gear head. That's just my opinion as a general user (who does happen to own a dSLR as well.)
My (bigger) objection was that the author of the article on MR implied that the pictures showcased bokeh. I didn't see any real bokeh effect in the pictures posted. That's an observation - not some gear head comment.
This thread (and the other one about this feature) summed up using an automotive example (the industry I work in).
Me: I just had an update done to my Ford F-150 truck. My towing capacity has just been increased from 5,000 to 7,000 pounds. Now I can tow that new boat I was looking at.
Pro: Amatuer. 7,000 pounds is nothing. Real tow guys use the F450 which can tow 31,000 pounds. Stop pretending your F150 is good at towing when it sucks.
Me: I just had an update done to my Ford F-150 truck. My towing capacity has just been increased from 5,000 to 7,000 pounds. Now I can tow that new boat I was looking at.
Pro: Amatuer. 7,000 pounds is nothing. Real tow guys use the F450 which can tow 31,000 pounds. Stop pretending your F150 is good at towing when it sucks.
I think most of the time the phone is good enough. And for most people, the phone is good enough 100% of the time. Most people do not NEED to have professional quality photos on a regular basis. It's pretty amazing to read this thread, with quite a number of comments by serious photographers insisting they know what other people need.