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Naaaah.

Me: I just upgraded to an F450! It can tow 31,000 pound! I took my boat to the lake this summer and it was a breeze!
Pro: That's cool. I drive an F150, myself. This year I've done about 100 contract jobs so far, and since I wasn't driving an F450 I probably saved a couple hundred bucks in gas. But yeah, I bet the lake was nice on that one trip. Good for you!


Here's my point: The Pro is likely to use both. The only difference is, the Pro uses them A LOT, and knows them inside and out.
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Whut? My phone was in my pocket when I took this. The Canon transferred the photo wirelessly to my phone, the second I took it, and from there I posted it.

Gotta use the right tool for the job!

I agree about the right tool for the right job. But I don't know why you posted a picture taken with a canon on an article showcasing photos shot on an iPhone. No one questions that a high end camera takes better pictures.

I was just trying to make a point that even though it takes better pictures it is not comparable to a phone. Not everyone has or wants a dedicated camera, but I speak for myself.
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How is that relevant?

The same way a dslr photo is relevant when talking about mobile phone cameras
 
I agree about the right tool for the right job. But I don't know why you posted a picture taken with a canon on an article showcasing photos shot on an iPhone. No one questions that a high end camera takes better pictures.

I was just trying to make a point that even though it takes better pictures it is not comparable to a phone. Not everyone has or wants a dedicated camera, but I speak for myself.

Well, someone started the thread out with, "here come the DSLR people, to tell us how much this sucks", and I figured I should throw in a few for a sane comparison. Personally, I'm quite excited about the artificial depth-of-field stuff the iPhone is doing. It will make the many millions of photos that iPhone users (myself included) generate, that much better, with a total minimum of effort. That is very useful. And, one thing a "pro" always appreciates: Saving time, and effort.
 
There's plenty of people that think they don't need a camera because they have a phone.

No, plenty of people who have a camera but don't want to carry it. For some, this is easy and good enough until it is improved again.
 
Sounds like the ones wound up are the ones that are trying to criticize those who aren't jumping on the omg amazing bandwagon. We know it's not a dSLR and will never be. That doesn't mean we can't offer an opinion - which is no different than you offering yours - that is contrary.

I think they are impressive images. But I prefer the straight image that the iphone produces vs those created with this effect "as is." That's not being an armchair gear head. That's just my opinion as a general user (who does happen to own a dSLR as well.)

My (bigger) objection was that the author of the article on MR implied that the pictures showcased bokeh. I didn't see any real bokeh effect in the pictures posted. That's an observation - not some gear head comment.

Non "Gear Head" Status duely noted. ;)
 
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Impressive for a phone camera, next year the 2nd gen version of it should be even better. I'm definitely no photography expert, so for me next year I'll have the only camera I'll need :)
 
If by uniform you mean on 9 levels...?

I'm sure it'll get better, but for now it just looks rather uniform. It's like it can't quite figure out how far everything is and the blur amount seems too much too suddenly.

It'll take time.
 
Someone needs to ask Apple why they are advertising a jet black iPhone case that doesn't exist....
 

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New Passport: $329
Used D50: $80
Used 18-200: $250
 
There's plenty of people that think they don't need a camera because they have a phone.

Yup. It's a great camera that meets the needs of many. And, it's always with you. Nothing wrong with that.

Most of my photography lately is with my iPhone, rather than my large cams.
 

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Beautiful! With discrete objects in the right scene it's astonishing how well it works I look forward to using it on my 8 Plus.

The effect doesn't work so well with objects that recede continuously into the background, like the wood or the pebbled ground, which is likely due in part to limited depth mapping levels. I wonder why there are only 9 levels? If the reason is ISP speed then we'll probably see more depth levels with each new SoC and thus better portrait mode performance. Another factor could be the short baseline between the two lenses. Moving the lenses apart would be far trickier due to usability concerns (more likely to place fingers over a lens) and packaging constraints (Ive waking in a cold sweat after a nightmare about a thicker iPhone).
 
Well, someone started the thread out with, "here come the DSLR people, to tell us how much this sucks", and I figured I should throw in a few for a sane comparison. Personally, I'm quite excited about the artificial depth-of-field stuff the iPhone is doing. It will make the many millions of photos that iPhone users (myself included) generate, that much better, with a total minimum of effort. That is very useful. And, one thing a "pro" always appreciates: Saving time, and effort.

Fair enough. Field of depth on iPhone is very cool and you are spot on with it being useful for the masses
 
Am I the only one that thinks this is a creepy prop and the two black containers behind it look like motor oil? How bizarre right in that beautiful garden...
 
New Passport: $329
Used D50: $80
Used 18-200: $250
Nikon user here and.. That seems a very random list of prices? Why would anyone buy a used D50 nowadays? :D (there are newer, lighter, better models for similar prices out there?)
 
No - not most places. But I personally don't think I would use this effect on my phone given the results. I would rather shoot it normally and do my own blur effects when/if I wanted to. Did you see the odd borders on the images in the thread mentioned. Maybe when reduced down to a mobile screen they look perfect - but not full size/desktop size. Also I'm not really sure you can call the effect in the photos I've seen bokeh. They simply look DoF blur.

Here's an example of bokeh - it's not just about blur.

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I don't see why Apple's processing couldn't be enhanced to add those "bokeh" circles to any bright spot in the out of focus parts of the photo. Apple could singlehandedly ruin bokeh for everyone who never even heard the word until recently. This could be like the "lens flares" that became a staple of CGI space shots on TV a few years back.

Now when I see real lens flares (created by the imperfections of real lenses), I think, "Isn't there some way they can turn that annoying thing off?" We'll all be so sick of bokeh that real photographers using big expensive cameras will start doing anything they can to filter out the obnoxious circles.
 
Really enjoying the portrait mode feature! Far from perfect, and it definitely doesn't work for every photo but l am impressed with the photos it does work on. I lucky enough to also own a Full Frame DSLR, but I don't always have it with me so its nice to have the option to take a candid portrait if want to (without my DSLR.)
 
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