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MacRumors WWDC 2005 Live Keynote Coverage

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efoto said:
Marketshare sure, but what about all of their quality products? If Apple does pull out of the hardware game and becomes, for argueable purposes, a software company (direct comparison to M$) then what are we supposed to think about our current hardware? Does it become a waste with this 'new' age of Apple/Intel products? I don't see this happening, they won't leave everyone behind but just a statement...

What happens with our durable iBooks and o-so-sexy PBooks? Are they to turn into the 3" ugly as hell notebooks that flood BestBuy shelves and make me queezy to look at them?
I never fully understood how partnering with Intel would lower heat issues, since all the Centrino systems I have used are hotter than my 1.5Ghz G4 PB....but whatever, have faith (gave up on that) and who knows, maybe its just for a new tablet like product and all existing will stay where it is, jump straight to G7s and we will all be wonderfully happy.
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I wasn't suggesting at all pulling out of hardware, I was simply suggesting letting Mac OS X run on competing hardware as well to expand MacOS X market share and attract more developers.
 
alandail said:
I wasn't suggesting at all pulling out of hardware, I was simply suggesting letting Mac OS X run on competing hardware as well to expand MacOS X market share and attract more developers.
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As a developer who wants to make some $$$ with Cocoa applications I'm all for releasing Mac OS X on x86. But as an Apple fan, I know this will hurt Apple. Piracy and viruses will run rampant on OS X too then.
 
Thanks, MR, wish I was free today to "watch" the keynote!

Looks like a great system that that Mac community has needed for some time :)
 
alandail said:
I wasn't suggesting at all pulling out of hardware, I was simply suggesting letting Mac OS X run on competing hardware as well to expand MacOS X market share and attract more developers.
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You may not have been suggesting it, but it is the most likely outcome if Apple ditches hardware and becomes an M$ equivalent pitching another product. If OSX is offered on other systems (for less $$$) only the diehard fans and fanatics will spend the big buck to get the actual Apple system instead of the hybrid pc/mac (not capitalized since I won't consider them the same thing) for less moulaw (how do you spell moulaw? :p ).

I think that it could perhaps be good news for business and bad news for fans, that is all I am trying to say. Right now I am frantically attempting to find a source to allow me internet usage so I can read and follow this thing to see what happens!
 
efoto said:
You may not have been suggesting it, but it is the most likely outcome if Apple ditches hardware and becomes an M$ equivalent pitching another product. If OSX is offered on other systems (for less $$$) only the diehard fans and fanatics will spend the big buck to get the actual Apple system instead of the hybrid pc/mac (not capitalized since I won't consider them the same thing) for less moulaw (how do you spell moulaw? :p ).

I think that it could perhaps be good news for business and bad news for fans, that is all I am trying to say. Right now I am frantically attempting to find a source to allow me internet usage so I can read and follow this thing to see what happens!
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You are assuming that Apple couldn't compete with the DELL's of the world on price when they are using the same chips inside their computers. I have more faith in apple's engineeers than that.
 
Forgive my ignorance.....

...but does it/should it matter to me what chips are in my Mac? I mean, if Apple decides to use Intel, will those newer Macs not "talk" to my older PPC eMac?
Will Intel chips mean cheaper Macs? Is that not a good thing? :confused:
 
alandail said:
You are assuming that Apple couldn't compete with the DELL's of the world on price when they are using the same chips inside their computers. I have more faith in apple's engineeers than that.
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But Dells look like crap and their material feels like crap compared to Apple. Cheap plastic versus alluminium or titanium. I don't think they will be able to compete on price, but rather on esthetics and quality.
 
biohazard_6969 said:
wow that sucks, i rele would like to be able to use this, but i'm at school all day and won't be able to check what things come out of WWDC untill i get home around 4:30 :(
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When I was in HS last year, Both WWDC and MacWorld use to be the longestttt days of the entire year :D

But We actually had a Mac Support Guy in the School, and use to let me into the labs to check what was going on during the keynote. :)

But Now I'm in College and have already been out for a month so I don't needa worry about that anymore. Macworld i'm on Xmas Break, and WWDC Summer. :)
 
efoto said:
You may not have been suggesting it, but it is the most likely outcome if Apple ditches hardware and becomes an M$ equivalent pitching another product. . . .

I think that it could perhaps be good news for business and bad news for fans, that is all I am trying to say. Right now I am frantically attempting to find a source to allow me internet usage so I can read and follow this thing to see what happens!
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I think financially for Apple they won't give up the hardware business. I don't know the hard numbers, but I would speculate they make the bulk of their money selling hardware and iPods. I think, in theory, that the hardware subsidizes OS X development.

To that end, OSX may only support Apple specific hardware configurations. This has a couple of benefits, not least of which would be a smaller size operating system. (compared to Windows, which has a voluminous amount of legacy hardware to support.)

My $.02, though I'm not super tech minded and may be way off base. Counting down to 1:00PM EST . . .
 
I'm pretty sure Apple makes software (including OS) for the purpose of selling hardware, not the other way around. All things considered, the supposed 'cold day in hell' is when they give up on the Mac.
 
evil

Remember when cars were beautifully hand-crafted? Only people who really needed them could afford them. But then a man “Henry Ford” said I am going to develop the production line. He had good intentions at first by bringing the usefulness of the car to the masses; he also was environmentally conscious and tried in everyway to keep his system balanced. Much like the race to make computers a home necessity, but now “much like the automobile industry” has become an unnecessary monster. And if Steve were to start the transition to licensing with good intentions it would only lead to evilness. “read” cradle to cradle, great book :D
 
I honestly think that Intel will be creating a chip exclusivley for Apple and their software/hardware. I am pretty sure you will not be able to go to Fry's and pick it up for your box that you are building and OS X will load right on it. That makes no sense compared to apple's long history.....

... but I may eat those words later.

This is more exciting than when apple announced the G5.
 
anastasis said:
I honestly think that Intel will be creating a chip exclusivley for Apple and their software/hardware. I am pretty sure you will not be able to go to Fry's and pick it up for your box that you are building and OS X will load right on it. That makes no sense compared to apple's long history.....

... but I am eat those words later.

This is more exciting than when apple announced the G5.
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It's also more important
 
Omen88 said:
As a developer who wants to make some $$$ with Cocoa applications I'm all for releasing Mac OS X on x86. But as an Apple fan, I know this will hurt Apple. Piracy and viruses will run rampant on OS X too then.
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Please explain to me mr developer how switiching to x86 will make viruses and piracy more rampant?
 
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