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marriages and stuff

Hey Paul!

Thanks for your reply... Which state in the US permits gay marriages?

Also, if I were to marry in that state, if I later moved to California, would I lose that recognition?

BTW, I am not English though I have been living here for 4 years now. I am actually American AND Portuguese, but yeah, my accent is a bit of American and English all together in one package...

A mess, but it's fun :)

I haven't been to the states since 91 and I'm finally going back for a week for the WWDC in May, so I'm dying to go there again :)

It's gonna be exciting!

Later all,
Afonso
 
Re: something we'll agree on

Originally posted by 3rdpath
no stinkin flavored liqours!

no fru-fru apple martinis

no chocolate martinis

if you want something cute-order a grasshopper-at least its a classic:D
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I'm wading into this thread at the end, sorry.

There's nothing wrong with a margueritta, either.

A quick search at google:
As for same-sex marriages, check out the site

http://www.grasshopperdesign.com/gay_marriage/legal/legal.htm

They have it broken down by state.


I went to the Dominican Republic in 2000 and came back with a box or two of Cohibas - mmm, tasty. I went to the local cigar shop to get some more and was shocked to see the prices on cigars I bought for $1 on the island were going for over $10 in DC. If I ever go back and figure out how to stash away a couple boxes I'd be able to pay for the trip.:D
 
Re: marriages and stuff

Originally posted by afonso
Hey Paul!

Thanks for your reply... Which state in the US permits gay marriages?

Also, if I were to marry in that state, if I later moved to California, would I lose that recognition?
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Afonso,

Check out the website posted earlier, it can give you a better description. Hawaii offers some sort of partnership benefits, but they've been wobbly on the subject. A lot of people want them to reverse that. Vermont (Up in New England) offers Civil Unions, which is marriage but without using the word "marriage"... Unfortunately, like 37 states have passed "sanctity of marriage" laws so that they won't have to recognize the Union, and even the states that haven't passed them don't have to recognize 'em. So you won't get much by marrying in Vermont and moving elsewhere. Fortunately, any number of corporations want to show solidaridy for gay rights, so you can often get health/profit sharing/etc for your partner... It's no legal recognition, but it's a start :)

To find gay friendly companies...
http://www.hrc.org/worknet/asp_search/detail_search.asp
Incidently, Apple ranks fairly highly:
http://www.hrc.org/worknet/asp_search/results.asp?skey=sDetail&id=1326
:)
pnw
 
i wonder if i could marry my ibook? i love it so much for something that is simply a machine

only motorcycle and car buffs are as passionate from what i have seen:D
 
Re: Re: marriages and stuff

Originally posted by Rower_CPU

I'm pretty sure it's Hawaii...
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Nope, Hawaii gave it a try and it was defeated. I think what happened is that they made too big a deal of it in the media. Oddly, I think there's still one state which recognizes gay unions, and it's one of the New England states (either Vermont or New Hampshire, I think). Someplace you wouldn't really expect, and they passed it without much fanfare.

Or I could just be out of my mind about that. But I know the Hawaii proposition went down in flames.

[addendum: wow, I should learn to read other replies before posting]
 
Re: Re: Re: marriages and stuff

Originally posted by Gelfin


Nope, Hawaii gave it a try and it was defeated. I think what happened is that they made too big a deal of it in the media. Oddly, I think there's still one state which recognizes gay unions, and it's one of the New England states (either Vermont or New Hampshire, I think). Someplace you wouldn't really expect, and they passed it without much fanfare.

Or I could just be out of my mind about that. But I know the Hawaii proposition went down in flames.

[addendum: wow, I should learn to read other replies before posting]
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it passed in hawaii, but not in california
 
-RE:HIV research.

I wasn't saying that there isn't a point to research or that the individuals doing the work are not focussed on the issue at hand.

What I was pointing out is that US businesses are pushing chemical anti-viral attacks on a RETROVIRUS. Retroviruses are incredibly adaptable and sneaky. A frontal assault only succeeds in killing the patient slowly. HIV is not the real problem underlying AIDS as a desease.AIDS is a complex syndrome of secondary, oppertunistic infections brought on not only by the exhaustion of an immune system chasing it's tail but by tissue dammage caused by the immune response itself.

The problem is the collateral dammage caused by a confused immune system attacking human cells that have been "Tagged" by free-floating molecules that have come off the surface of roaming HIV. The same molecule that the human immune system uses to "see" HIV winds up on the surface of countless human cells and the immune system responds, killing healthy tissue and causing far more dammage than the virus itself. The answer is relatively simple: Remove the immune response by selectively killing off the immune cell types associated with HIV. Treat the patient's now simplified infection of JUST HIV the same as other chronic viral conditions such as herpes complex.

The point being made is that trusting pharmaceutical companies and HMO's to lead the research is naive, foolish and counter productive.

Trusting Academics to do the job is naive for the following reasons:

As well-meaning as the are academics are not business men and have serious control issues. I know a researcher that has been working on the approach above for YEARS and has nearly killed his own efforts through a combination of the incompitance of the non-proffit model (everything by comittee) and his own need to control the technique. While he has been covering his own butt and focussing on "Being the man who cured AIDS" others have found the same facts about the desease so all his efforts at patenting something that should be public knowledge have been in vain anyway.

About Africa: No American company will provide a simple-elegant solution to Africa while the world is watching cuz they're selling a complex, highly toxic innefective solution for A LOT OF MONEY at home. How do you sell AZT at thousands of dollars a dose when there's a cheap and more effective answer being praised by Koffi Annan?

The answer is this: Someone has to buck up and decide to do the right thing. An entrepreneur must step foreward and found a company in Kenya to manufacture the generic drugs for the simple solution. Someone has to take it all out into the light.

There is a simple answer. There are a lot of myths out there among even the scientific community about HIV. THIS MUST STOP.

HMOs and USA drug companies are the money changers at the steps of health care. There are many techniques and technologies being ignored in medicine because they make less money than the existing fallacies. The blind trust people have for their health care providers is not only dangerously irresponsible but dammaging to the system. Doctors know it (they're getting screwed here too), Researchers know it and anyone who deals in HMO contracts knows it.


I am by no means suggesting that current research is invalid no the intentions of researchers ingenuine, I'm saying it's time to get off our collective ass. Research does no good if it never gets out of the lab.
 
My two cents

Well, back in middle school (early 90s), my friends kept deriding my decision to use a Mac, calling it "gay" and a "toy" among other things given its user-friendly interface and slick design. They proudly boasted how they were tapping away at their DOS beige boxes, as if needless suffering was a requisite to prove their masculinity.

But of course, we all know where those guys ended doing--they all converted en masse to Windows 95, which was practically a copycat version of the OS they once derided as "gay." Now these guys will probably boast how they have figured out how to work or debug Windows NT or 2000, never questioning why their OS should crash so much in the first place. So my opinion is that a lot of guys apparently believe that it is "macho" to use the crappy, crash-prone software. Women, on the other hand, just use what sense.

Well, that's my two cents. I'm a straight guy, so I might not know what I'm talking about.
 
i have a friend who hates gui and the mouse, so he is strapped with 8088's and post vacuum tube stuff for the us govt and he has a state of the art, for the defense dept, 486, so he is very protective of it

he teaches programming and multimedia and scientific rendereing of numbers is not in the curriculum where he teaches so the whole system...military, civil service, and contractors, could afford to live in a pre-widows 98 environment which they created with hundreds of millions of dollars and the democrats are not willing to spend on due to the fact that it is foreign policy related and the republicans won't spend on because why fix it if it aint broke mentality

of the three military bases in the area, one has no computers, one has no pentium 3s, and the other ie dedicated to programming and thus will never have the need to have anything over 100 mhz...being a techie i know that some programmming needs horsepower, but not the military proproetary type

one officer i know who graduated from one of these bases told me he used to carry a slide rule on his belt and the funny thing is, in the civilian world, slide rules were replaced by calculators...but if the us government cannot find a best provider of something like calculators, then by committee, they will have a standoff and end up not buying anything at all


...and try to convince either the democrats or republicans on capitol hill, lawyers by trade as opppsed to techies, to give and constantly resupply literally millions of employees and service people with computers then one can see the root of the problem

now i am way off topic but these are some of my gripes having been a computer guy for the defense department
 
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