Or there are customers that still need Bootcamp with Windows capability, maybe that's why we'll see extended refreshing on Intel CPUs. I use Bootcamp for gaming and have no intention moving to Apple Silicon without Windows capability.
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Macs With Intel Processors Still Coming Amid Transition to Apple Silicon
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This mid-level Mac Pro rumor has been around for over a decade and not come to fruition. I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm curious if way to like have a multi-architecture (?) system? Such that it has capability to run both 'in' the 'same' operating system simultaneously? I guess at that point its just two computers in the same case with a shared folder of some sort but just always thought would be nice to have benefits of both in an integrated environment.
i'm a little skeptical to how long apple will support this machine. it'll only be a few more years into apple silicon that they can save money by discontinuing support for all intel machines. it would be nice if they support this machine for 10 years but it'll probably only get half that time. i really hope apple will come out and say something like "this machine will receive support for the latest operating system for at least 10 years". it would give a lot of us intel folks some peace of mind.
The reality is that you represent a very very small minority of users. Small enough that Apple doesn't care.
Most that are using VMs aren't running them locally. They can still use a M1 machine to login to their Windows VM running on a remote server, which is how they normally manage things anyways.
Not for in place workstations it’s not.
That would imply that Apple gives two sh*ts about Hackintoshes, which they don’t, nor should they.
With the current Mac Pro priced into the stratosphere, there definitely is a place in the line up for a Mac more capable than the Mac mini. Maybe a Mac Midi.
What are you talking about? The latest macOS has features only available to M1 chips. The separation has already started and it’s only going to get worse this coming October when a newer macOS releases.
Apple quickly transitioned from IBM (G5/G4) to Intel. Wouldn't think they'll really stick around Intel at this point. Moving people over to their own chips brings lots of advantages.
First, the quicker you transition, the less you have to invest in supporting legacy systems. Lowers support costs.
It also means they make more on the processor, as they're not paying Intel to license theirs.
I think Apple will make the transition as quickly as possible.
I think any new Intel chips are more an indication of developers who are laggards and late to the Apple Silicon party. With M1/M2, Apple is on the their own release cycle so there is no reason they couldn't release one new Mac Pro model featuring Intel and another model featuring Apple Silicon at the same time. Either way, Apple gets the sale and they also get to compare both models to each other in order too embarrass Intel and further pressure their own customers to switch to Apple Silicon.
It seems that there TSMC may be addressing high performance needs and that Apple might take advantage of this new advance. Performance per watt is not really that relevant with a potential Apple Silicon Mac Pro, just performance.
EDIT: Link - https://www.anandtech.com/show/17123/tsmc-unveils-n4x-node-high-voltages-for-high-clocks
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I think there is going to be a Mac Pro based on Apple Silicon and the Intel Mac Pro will stay in the lineup for a couple more years and it gets a CPU upgrade to keep it relevant. It’s also possible that the Intel-based Mac mini stays to to give customers a high and low-end option for Intel support.
The CPU upgrade may simply be a result of Intel pushing customers to the newer XEON chips becuse they have higher yields on that process and not something Apple planned to do on their own.
The CPU upgrade may simply be a result of Intel pushing customers to the newer XEON chips becuse they have higher yields on that process and not something Apple planned to do on their own.
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Yeah, you get an Intel processor, but all the new OS features only work on the M-series.
Low wattage high performance is still relevant. It’s better for all of us and the environment. Apple is focused on that.
All current Intel CPUs released for Mac OS do not have E-Cores. Alder Lake CPUs are a nice upgrade over Comet Lake / Rocket Lake, however getting full compatibility working with E-Cores is proving to be a bit of a challenge. How cores are assigned to which task is an issue. You could disable E-Cores on a motherboard but you're losing out on some performance. Enabling them also forces you to disable AVX-512 which Adobe apps use so it's not ideal for creative professionals. It all comes down to the fact that Intel took too long to release a hybrid CPU for Apple to use and get OS X optimized / compatible with the new chips.
Anyone looking to upgrade or build a Hackintosh SHOULD take into consideration Alder Lake CPUs.
no professional cares about the energy bill for a workstation computer.
Don't understand why you've been downvoted tbh ,people are so unrealistic..
Perf per watt isn't rly important for big desktop machines honestly
Speak for yourself. I care. Apple cares. And Apple likes to push what they care about.
name me one company that goes "oh no. that employee has been using adobe premiere for 8 hours today on the $15,000 mac pro. i am worried about the electricity bill for this month is going to cost a few dollars more! noooooo0o0o0o00o0o!!!!!!!!!!"
Wasn't expecting this, but think its a good move. Too bad they didn't start in price at about half of what they do as they'd pick up a good chunk of additional customers wanting this architecture and upgrade-ability.
Good news for the folks with Intel Macs and wanting OS updates in the mean time.
Good news for the folks with Intel Macs and wanting OS updates in the mean time.
You’ve totally missed the point and your screen name is perfect. ?