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Seems like Apple has kind of backed themselves into a corner with naming and upgrade timelines. Since the M1 Pro/Max were just announced, it is logical to assume that the new MacBook Air and Mac mini updates will be next. So does that mean they will have a standard M2 leaving the 14/16-inch MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro/Max? That is where I think that consumers will be confused because the M2 sounds better than the M1 Pro/Max.

Consumers see, "MacBook Air" and "MacBook Pro" they don't see M2 and M1 Pro.

They haven't backed themselves in to a corner... I believe the plan is to upgrade consumer systems every year (after the transition)... M2, M3, M4, etc. and pro systems every other year.. M1X, M3X, M5X, etc.
 
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Looking forward on how Apple will improve their chips.

Would it be like iPhones where it is incremental?
 
You don't need to buy new Macs every year. You don't need to buy new iPhones every year.

Just because Apple has new products each year, doesn't mean that we need to spend more money just to get the new shiny with incremental improvements. If you wait you can save money and when you do upgrade, the changes are actually noticeable.
This seems so obvious to me, but the same applies to cars as well and yet a ton of people go out and replace those every couple years. A lot of people lack the self control to delay gratification and they pay the price for it.
 
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My work laptop is a maxed out Intel 13-inch MacBook Pro and my baseline MacBook Air I use at home destroys it. Its kinda sad really.
I know how you feel.

If you look at my signature, I pretty much have some powerful personal hardware.

Meanwhile at work, I am forced to use a 2020 Intel 13" Macbook with 16GB of RAM...
 
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For sale…get yours while it lasts…vintage 1st edition Mac Mini M1.

Own the Mac that started revolutioM ….only $6,080….

Dude, first computer I ever used was the TRS-80 model I, the only computer in our elementary school, and I had to come in at 7am with a special small group of kids just to be allowed to use it. Then my parents bought me a TI-99/4A, which was my only computer for years. I feel special kinship with your sig.
 
So the upcoming 2022 model MacBook Air will skip the current M1 Pro chip as well as the (not released) M2 and go straight to an M3?
 
You don't need to buy new Macs every year. You don't need to buy new iPhones every year.

Just because Apple has new products each year, doesn't mean that we need to spend more money just to get the new shiny with incremental improvements. If you wait you can save money and when you do upgrade, the changes are actually noticeable.
For iphone it’s actually better pure out of cost perspective to purchase every year new. I am doing this since a while. Based on a 3 years assumption of having a phone, you purchase let’s say for 900 after 1 years you can sell it for 600. Loss every year 300. 300*3 years = 900. Same amount than waiting 3 years and than can’t get rid of the old phone anymore hence batteries need to be change etc. further advantage 1. Always the latest hardware and 2. Always in apples warranty.
 


Apple's chipmaking partner TSMC has kicked off pilot production of chips built on its 3nm process, known as N3, according to Taiwanese supply chain publication DigiTimes.

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The report, citing unnamed industry sources, claims that TSMC will move the process to volume production by the fourth quarter of 2022 and start shipping 3nm chips to customers like Apple and Intel in the first quarter of 2023.

As usual, this process advancement should allow for performance and power efficiency improvements, which can lead to faster speeds and/or longer battery life on future iPhones and Macs. The first series of Apple silicon Macs powered by M1 chips already deliver industry-leading performance per watt while running impressively quiet and cool.

The first Apple devices with 3nm chips will likely debut in 2023, including iPhone 15 models with an A17 chip and Apple silicon Macs with M3 chips — all names are tentative. The Information's Wayne Ma last month reported that some of the M3 chips will have up to four dies, which the report said could translate into those chips having up to a 40-core CPU, compared to the 8-core M1 chip and 10-core M1 Pro and M1 Max chips.

In the meantime, Macs with M2 chips and iPhone 14 models are expected to use chips based on TSMC's N4 process, which is another iteration of its 5nm process.

Article Link: Macs With 'M3' Chips Expected to Use TSMC's 3nm Chip Technology With Test Production Reportedly Underway
I heard that it’s .3nm. Just a rumor.
 
In other words, already obsolete at the time it is introduced.
The M2 is for the 2022 model.
The M3 won't be available until 2023.

Apple will probably be doing frequent "spec bump" updates to the computers in this range. Possibly annual updates, not unlike an iPhone. Do you complain that the processor in a new iPhone is obsolete before it is introduced just because we know that there will be another one the year after?
 
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Can’t wait!

I’m planning on getting a MacBook Air to use as my computer for when I travel and will definitely hold out to get an M3 now

I’m using the new M1 iMac as my main computer and it’s so much faster than my Intel iMac
I am patiently waiting for new iMac Pro next year. For now iPad Pro with M1 is doing all the heavy lifting with video production and audio editing.
 
For sale…get yours while it lasts…vintage 1st edition Mac Mini M1.

Own the Mac that started revolutioM ….only $6,080….
Yeah, and mine is a 16/512 M1 Mac Mini... so it's rarer... and therefore worth even more! $10,000!!! ?
 
Seems like Apple has kind of backed themselves into a corner with naming and upgrade timelines. Since the M1 Pro/Max were just announced, it is logical to assume that the new MacBook Air and Mac mini updates will be next. So does that mean they will have a standard M2 leaving the 14/16-inch MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro/Max? That is where I think that consumers will be confused because the M2 sounds better than the M1 Pro/Max.

Yes.



The M2 is better than the M1 Pro/Max, except at high-end workloads.

This is really no different than before, and kind of unavoidable. The Xeon W in an iMac Pro was nice if you needed that many CPU cores, but almost nobody does, and for those, it was actually a pretty slow chip. The same will happen here: core-for-core, the Pro/Max/etc. variants of Apple's chips will lag behind their consumer versions. But for high-end purposes, they add cores and more specialized features (such as accelerated ProRes encoding).

I honestly do not expect it will be that much of an issue. Apple Marketing addressed the issue a fair bit by calling the more powerful SoCs "Pro" and "MAX" as that sets the expectation in people's minds that these are the "performance" SoCs even if they are an earlier generation than what is in the cheaper "consumer" machines.
M2 will be more recent and efficient than M1Pro/Max but (hopefully) not faster or powerful than M2 Pro/Max. Pretty straightforward.
Each generation will have different “scale” versions enhanced with specific architecture features suitable to different workloads.
 
I heard the Apple Silicon progression will be M1 -> M2 -> M3 -> M4 -> M5 -> G6

That way all those people who have been waiting so long for a G6 in a Mac laptop will finally get it. Just won't be a PowerPC G6. :cool: :p
And the teaser will read “coming home”
 
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