does this mean it's free if you get an invite. I want the apps but i don't understand this whole thing at all.
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does this mean it's free if you get an invite. I want the apps but i don't understand this whole thing at all.
Now you get a free membership if you invite 4 people (ou can make them up if you've not got many mac friends).
Just order it if you want the 8 apps. Maybe Intaglio. Or maybe Joel (the guy that's running this) will pull something out of his rear to get us all 10.
Anywho....
The Easiest Way
The simplest way to get the most software is to simply use the MacHeist link to buy the software.
If you want the MacUpdate membership and don't already have a free membership, first go to MacUpdate and register for a free membership. Then go to the MacHeist link http://macheist.com/macupdate and when the MacHeist link takes you through to MacUpdate to purchase, you can just log in with your free MacUpdate ID to complete the purchase.
I did this, and even though my Safari session crashed upon the completion of the purchase, when I received the purchase confirmation email, the invite link was in the email. I went and sent an invite to ONE friend and once I did that when I checked my MacUpdate account it was indeed upgraded to a paid account automatically.
It really is a fairly painless process.
I wasn't really concerned about getting the MacUpdate membership originally, but since they were nice enough to add it as a bonus I am quite happy to check it out.
The simplest way to get the most software is to simply use the MacHeist link to buy the software.
If you want the MacUpdate membership and don't already have a free membership, first go to MacUpdate and register for a free membership. Then go to the MacHeist link http://macheist.com/macupdate and when the MacHeist link takes you through to MacUpdate to purchase, you can just log in with your free MacUpdate ID to complete the purchase.
I did this, and even though my Safari session crashed upon the completion of the purchase, when I received the purchase confirmation email, the invite link was in the email. I went and sent an invite to ONE friend and once I did that when I checked my MacUpdate account it was indeed upgraded to a paid account automatically.
It really is a fairly painless process.
I wasn't really concerned about getting the MacUpdate membership originally, but since they were nice enough to add it as a bonus I am quite happy to check it out.
Ya'll should use my sig: it hits the character limit for sigs.
"Little Snitch, GraphicConverter, Fetch, iWOW, GarageSale, Cocktail, ProfCast, Amadeus Pro, Browseback, Exces, a MacUpdate account, and MORE, FOR $50!"
Make sure to use http://mupromo.com/?buy=heist for the url.
If I don't get intaglio, I'm gonna be pissed. That was about 90% of the reason for me purchasing.
"Little Snitch, GraphicConverter, Fetch, iWOW, GarageSale, Cocktail, ProfCast, Amadeus Pro, Browseback, Exces, a MacUpdate account, and MORE, FOR $50!"
Make sure to use http://mupromo.com/?buy=heist for the url.
If I don't get intaglio, I'm gonna be pissed. That was about 90% of the reason for me purchasing.
That's crap. I purchased by going directly to ?buy=heist and I got everything.
Not to mention that /? is not the buy link, so referral information would be lost unless you did a cookie or something.
Also, you guys should digg this:
http://digg.com/tech_deals/MacHeist_joins_forces_with_MacUpdate
It's more recent so it'll probably get more views.
http://digg.com/tech_deals/MacHeist_joins_forces_with_MacUpdate
It's more recent so it'll probably get more views.
Should have held off until it's unlocked like everyone else
I've seen people saying that. Yet that seems a good way of making sure that it doesn't get unlocked, especially in the home stretch when a couple of purchases from some holdouts might make the difference.
Don't buy into the hype about the "Mac community" pulling together to make something wonderful happen here.I've seen people saying that. Yet that seems a good way of making sure that it doesn't get unlocked, especially in the home stretch when a couple of purchases from some holdouts might make the difference.
It is a for-profit operation that the organizers single-handedly managed to mess up, crippling the momentum at almost every stage. People bought in early on the reasonable assumption that it would be professionally managed and that the 9,999 was an attainable target.
Instead, the organizers created a massive bottle-neck with an ill-advised invite-your-friends scheme. At stake was a pretty much worthless MacUpdate membership but it was enough to make potential customers to hesitate and, as any salesperson will tell you, that kills a sale.
Even when it was obvious that their attempt to spur more sales had back-fired badly, they went into denial and, incredibly, blamed the slow-down on the people complaining about the scheme within their discussion thread. They became so attached to this delusion that they stuck with the compulsory invites scheme and refused to recognize that they needed to DO something to get momentum going once again, just as MacHeist did by bringing forward one of their unlocks.
Personally, I think it's a pretty good (but not great) deal but, if Intaglio is what makes the deal worthwhile for you, hold off, because it turns out you can't trust these idiots not to screw up even the simplest things. Just wait until it's in the bag and then order through MacHeist. Quite a few people now regretted jumping in early, not least because they were the ones who were really getting screwed on the invites thing, until we complained loudly enough to get that changed.
If the current rate of sales holds up, I estimate that Intaglio will unlock around 7hrs before the promo ends.
Ironically, if they were smart and humble enough to take a lesson from MacHeist, they would drop the confusing invites requirement, unlock Intaglio now (safe in the knowledge that this would automatically generate another 1000 sales), bring forward the Tech Tools unlock to 8,000 and relaunch the whole damn promo for the final 4hrs in a fire-storm of publicity. Again, actually unlocking Tech Tools would result in a further 2000 sales anyway, so, they can't lose and I'm sure the developers would be relieved to see the promotion actually succeed.
My goodness, you are getting better and better at slandering people. I am not so happy with how this was handled, but why all the anger? we'll see how it shakes out at the end. If we miss out on Intaglio, etc. that will be too bad, but that's how it goes. It's not like we're out in the cold for $50.
And we'll all know never to participate in a MU promo again. But who knows, maybe they have something nice planned. Don't make such a big deal out of this that you have to say rude things about people that you don't even know.
Not anger, you're taking me up wrong, I'm just calling it as I see it - incompetence is no excuse for misleading people.
Attention is the oxygen that drives these promos, they're designed to be a spectator sport and, if done right, make their organizers a lot of money.
Equally, if they're done badly, everyone gets to watch them go down in flames, that's just part of the trade-off.
Attention is the oxygen that drives these promos, they're designed to be a spectator sport and, if done right, make their organizers a lot of money.
Equally, if they're done badly, everyone gets to watch them go down in flames, that's just part of the trade-off.
Yes indeed
Donnacha is right, attention is what drives these promos, and all it really takes is a couple of people constantly deriding the organizers in the promo's forum to really drag things down.
Especially when they cross post in multiple forums, "mentioning" the bad things being posted about the organizers in other forums, without stating that they are the ones posting those things.
You have to love the internet.
Donnacha is right, attention is what drives these promos, and all it really takes is a couple of people constantly deriding the organizers in the promo's forum to really drag things down.
Especially when they cross post in multiple forums, "mentioning" the bad things being posted about the organizers in other forums, without stating that they are the ones posting those things.
You have to love the internet.
I've been keeping track of the reaction to this on quite a few websites but I've only been bothered to post here and in the promo's own discussion; I don't think there's anything wrong with reporting between the two.
Nobody made Joel promise that there were more surprises in the bag, more "big guns" as he put it, so, again, as it becomes more likely that this may have been deliberate lie to boost sales, it is 100% relevant to mention it and I am far from the only one to pick up on this.
One of the things that prevented the organizers from recognizing and fixing the problems early on was that they took the less painful option of convincing themselves that there was a conspiracy against them i.e. that people complaining about the problems were the problem. If they want to continue believing that as they dive-bomb into the final 24hrs, fine, it will give them a comforting excuse to tell themselves, but it's worth noting that I and most of the other people giving them a rough ride were consistently pointing out what they could, and still can, do to live up to the faith of all the people who bought in early.
Nobody made Joel promise that there were more surprises in the bag, more "big guns" as he put it, so, again, as it becomes more likely that this may have been deliberate lie to boost sales, it is 100% relevant to mention it and I am far from the only one to pick up on this.
One of the things that prevented the organizers from recognizing and fixing the problems early on was that they took the less painful option of convincing themselves that there was a conspiracy against them i.e. that people complaining about the problems were the problem. If they want to continue believing that as they dive-bomb into the final 24hrs, fine, it will give them a comforting excuse to tell themselves, but it's worth noting that I and most of the other people giving them a rough ride were consistently pointing out what they could, and still can, do to live up to the faith of all the people who bought in early.
Helpful
It's comments like this that cause me to cringe. If you wait to the end of the process and there is no surprise at all coming from MacUpdate, then your saying that he lied wouldn't be an issue to me. However, saying "this may have been a deliberate lie" before that time has even come to pass seems truly inappropriate. When discussing lies, it seems wrong and ironic to me to not wait until the facts are at least in.
Well, I came in from the MacHeist link right at the beginning, and for some reason I never thought the MacUpdate accounts were included for the inviter after I read the promo, so my faith was actually doing fine already. I thought Joel's addition of the MacUpdate membership for all was a nice gesture to try to quiet the "squeaky wheels", but unfortunately it didn't seem to work.
I personally thought it was a good bundle with clearly stated goals.
I then got to watch people disparage MacHeist and Arn on the first page of this forum and say they would rather pay full price to the developers, only to say on the ninth page that they were waiting for Intaglio to be unlocked before buying.(!?!) Oh, and they retracted their comments about MacHeist about halfway through the thread, long after anyone who wasn't still reading just to see how libelous people could be would have given up (with the impression this promo should be avoided.)
And yet everyone seems to think they are being magnanimous with their "helpful" reviews. We should start a restaurant forum; I can see the reviews already... Review 1 "try the fish, it's probably not poisoned", followed by review 2 "hey, why's nobody buying the fish?"
Anyway, I just found this a strange, frustrating forum that was like a wreck from which I could not look away... somehow a rather disturbing view on human nature. Considering the abuse Arn took at the beginning, I'm surprised he didn't shut this thread down, but I guess that would have only caused more dissent.
I'm just hoping this doesn't kill the possibility of any future MacHeist promos.
It's comments like this that cause me to cringe. If you wait to the end of the process and there is no surprise at all coming from MacUpdate, then your saying that he lied wouldn't be an issue to me. However, saying "this may have been a deliberate lie" before that time has even come to pass seems truly inappropriate. When discussing lies, it seems wrong and ironic to me to not wait until the facts are at least in.
Well, I came in from the MacHeist link right at the beginning, and for some reason I never thought the MacUpdate accounts were included for the inviter after I read the promo, so my faith was actually doing fine already. I thought Joel's addition of the MacUpdate membership for all was a nice gesture to try to quiet the "squeaky wheels", but unfortunately it didn't seem to work.
I personally thought it was a good bundle with clearly stated goals.
I then got to watch people disparage MacHeist and Arn on the first page of this forum and say they would rather pay full price to the developers, only to say on the ninth page that they were waiting for Intaglio to be unlocked before buying.(!?!) Oh, and they retracted their comments about MacHeist about halfway through the thread, long after anyone who wasn't still reading just to see how libelous people could be would have given up (with the impression this promo should be avoided.)
And yet everyone seems to think they are being magnanimous with their "helpful" reviews. We should start a restaurant forum; I can see the reviews already... Review 1 "try the fish, it's probably not poisoned", followed by review 2 "hey, why's nobody buying the fish?"
Anyway, I just found this a strange, frustrating forum that was like a wreck from which I could not look away... somehow a rather disturbing view on human nature. Considering the abuse Arn took at the beginning, I'm surprised he didn't shut this thread down, but I guess that would have only caused more dissent.
I'm just hoping this doesn't kill the possibility of any future MacHeist promos.
I won't go into all your points, valid though they mostly are, other than to say that there was clearly an awareness among the people complaining in the MU thread (as opposed to the initial complaints here) that their main worry was not that MU were profiting but, rather, that they taking a pretty good model, unlock bundles, and ham-stringing to an extent that it might discourage others from running similar promos.
The idea of waiting until the promo finishes to point out possible lies is nice but, unfortunately, there may be people making purchases NOW based upon the promise that they'd get more then they actually will. I'm not saying that Joel won't stand behind his promises, I'm just saying that, as time goes by, and we're heading into the final day now, he seems to be taking his damn time about it. Neither am I saying that the bundle necessarily needs extras to make it worthwhile, it all depends on your individual needs. Some people, however, may be taking Joel's promise at face value and, with 3,548 people now having a vested interest in persuading them to buy, they deserve to hear a voice of caution too.
Of course, it is only fifty bucks, not a big deal, my main interest has mainly been in following how this process unfolds and watching the herd mentality that kicks in when people stand to gain a bit of extra software.
Hi Everyone,
MacHeist just sweetened the deal tonight by adding another app, namely WriteRoom ($24.95), to this bundle if you buy through them (like I did). Read about the enhanced promo and all the apps in detail at:
http://macheist.com/index
Granted we'll need a minor miracle at this point in the game to unlock TechTool Pro at 10,000 bundles, but it looks like Intaglio will be ours by early tomorrow, which is great! Plus MacHeist says "at least one more application to be added to the deal by us, for our Heist customers" which I believe since they've already given us 2 extra apps since I bought through them.
I have no regrets about being an early buyer in this promo; I am very pleased with the apps, the delivery service, and am happily using several of them on a regular basis already.
To be frank, I'm so glad I ignored all the anti-MacHeist and anti-promo rhetoric on this thread and bought this fun and practical bundle from MacHeist/MacUpdate!
Have a good week,
--Alice
MacHeist just sweetened the deal tonight by adding another app, namely WriteRoom ($24.95), to this bundle if you buy through them (like I did). Read about the enhanced promo and all the apps in detail at:
http://macheist.com/index
Granted we'll need a minor miracle at this point in the game to unlock TechTool Pro at 10,000 bundles, but it looks like Intaglio will be ours by early tomorrow, which is great! Plus MacHeist says "at least one more application to be added to the deal by us, for our Heist customers" which I believe since they've already given us 2 extra apps since I bought through them.
I have no regrets about being an early buyer in this promo; I am very pleased with the apps, the delivery service, and am happily using several of them on a regular basis already.
To be frank, I'm so glad I ignored all the anti-MacHeist and anti-promo rhetoric on this thread and bought this fun and practical bundle from MacHeist/MacUpdate!
Have a good week,
--Alice
Damn it, I bought too early, before Phill came out and said that John Gruber and the other people crapping on him were misinformed, and I just went straight through MU. It's still a good deal, but I wish I hadn't erred on the safe side and been all suspicious of him.
Let's hope Joel has some cool ideas for tomorrow. Maybe he'll extend the promo a few days.
Let's hope Joel has some cool ideas for tomorrow. Maybe he'll extend the promo a few days.
What no group hugs? Not the touchy-feely type,eh?
Don't worry I'm not buying into any hype. Its just about numbers, if there's 1% (just a guess) of total purchasers holding out like you that could make the difference of getting Intaglio or not.I agree it wasn't handled spectacularly well.
Maybe. Delusion might be too strong of a word, perhaps inexperience? But you are correct in that they needed to try to recapture momentum. At the very least it could have countered a lot of the negativity in forums which though legitimate can also kill momentum.
No I already jumped in, and i'm not regretting it. My main interest was GarageSale, everything else is icing. Intaglio would offer a lot of value to the package if it gets unlocked.
I found the Macheist offer confusing, I think they were trying to be too cutesy and they scared off some with the isight business. Notice how Macheist has changed their pages now? It cleaner and easier to understand.
I think that you probably did help get things changed, and I have no issue with you complaining to get things moving in the right direction. But people may not listen if you are calling them idiots.
I'm with you on this one. I was getting a bad feeling about the promo, and I'm glad that i read through the entire post otherwise i would have taken a pass on the whole thing. I'm now happy that I did buy.
So youre saying he's lying.
So he's not lying?
So he maybe lying?
So now you are calling us all lemmings.
If you had the ability to read correctly i might be buying the mac update bundle (if intaglio unlocks).... the one that operates through REVENUE SHARING. I will not be touching the Mac Heist one. I only retracted personal insults to Phil as a matter of courtesy.
EDIT: Oh and Arn took no abuse. He was questioned appropriately about his involvement in the deal and whether he had posted news that he had financial interest in without disclosing it! No where was Arn given abuse. And as for Arn closing the thread.... Arn has me on his instant messenger list so if he had minded me writing what i had then he could have easily taken the discussion private.
Again to say to you all, the statement i made was on behalf of Phil. He makes a valid point that this is a Mac Update promo with the bundle terms negotiated by them not by Phil. This is why i was happy to post it. The rest is Phil saying the devs got more than Gruber stated etc for his MH1 promo. I have seen no paper work or evidence except what phil says to prove to me it is true. (That does not mean that i don't believe him but i don't know the guy in person, have seen no evidence and am taking his word)
If your happy to believe Phil's statement then buy away
iAlice said:
I have to say i am really questioning the validity of your posts. Joined a few days back, all 5 posts in this thread..... all 5 posts saying almost identical things getting far to orgasmic about a promo you are merely a consumer of? Hmmmmm.....not to mention your posts sound very spam/advertising like......
God, at this point, I don't know! Let's just say that I have grave mis-givings; he made a promise on the MU thread, presumably addressed to people who had bought or were considering buying through MU, stating that more would be rolled out at the appropriate time but, so far, he hasn't come up with anything and we're into the last 16hrs.
Now, he may have been talking about the (very good) additions at MacHeist but that doesn't seem to fit because, of course, none of the people who bought through MU, at exactly the same price, get any of that stuff. I guess, technically, that wouldn't have been a lie but, um, just very misleading.
It's unfortunate because, of course, the earliest buyers, the ones who took the real leap of faith, didn't know how much better the MacHeist version would be and it was also the early buyers who got screwed on the (admittedly worthless) membership thing until we kicked up a fuss about it. As has been said already by others, the whole thing seems a bit backwards.
Hey, I find lemming behavior interesting because I'm a lemming myself!So now you are calling us all lemmings.
Reading correctly
I was referring to this.
Back on topic i feel really sorry for those of you that have bought into the promo now as its looking very unlikely your going to get intaglio..... i hope you do though as i am waiting for it to unlock before i buy it
I was referring to this.