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MacUpdate Software Bundle Sale [Update]
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Well your attitude to a news story that was posted with financial backing behind it whilst not disclosing it at the time is interesting then!
Above i was just correcting the post where you called it an advert, had it been one of those the whole issue would never have occurred.
Back on topic i feel really sorry for those of you that have bought into the promo now as its looking very unlikely your going to get intaglio..... i hope you do though as i am waiting for it to unlock before i buy it
looks like MU responded... free memberships for all, and now 4 invites. Nice. I hope they can get the word out.
No iPhones here
i'd feel sorry for you if you guys didnt get consoles etc first!
@shadowfax is that in response to the forum post by donnacha?
EDIT: Not seeing the free memberships for all!? All i can see is 4 coupons instead of 2......
Yaaaay!!!
That's fantastic; I just donated my 4 additional invites on:
http://www.cedrik.fr/mupromo/
I love this promo, am grateful to MacRumors for telling us about it, and am enjoying the chance to work with other participants in getting at least Intaglio unlocked for all of us who plunked down our $50.
Join the ride if you need the apps, it's a good deal I think!
--Alice
www.mupromo.com said:
There it is, bolded.
I think it was in response to a lot of us. Increasing the number of invites was their idea.
I guess any improvement is welcome but, sadly, they've missed the opportunity for real change here.
All the doubling of invites does is ease a bottle-neck that should not exist in the first place. Is is good that customers who jumped in early can now get their own membership but it is a bit scandalous that, in order to do so, they must divulge 4 of their friends email addresses. That's pretty scummy, although I understand what the MU crew think they're doing. All the same, this is classic bait and switch because the original wording of the offer, upon which many based their purchase, definitely gave the impression that a membership was included. It's pretty shocking that they think they can get away with simply changing the wording and not addressing the liability they've created - I get the impression they aren't aware of how expensive credit card charge-backs are. Damaging too - if as few as 1% dispute the charge, they'll lose their merchant account.
Donnacha, I am not comfortable calling it scummy. I don't think that what they've done or are doing is expressly misleading, it's just that the things they put in bold seem better than the details, when you read them. I don't think people feel particularly cheated, or that it's unethical. It's just that it's disappointing from the point of view of the prospective buyer.
That sucks, and it's probably going to cost us all TTPro, but it's not scummy or evil.
That sucks, and it's probably going to cost us all TTPro, but it's not scummy or evil.
Yeah, fair enough, not deliberately scummy but demanding email addresses does have fairly seedy connotations/associations. Also, they have been less than upstanding in admitting that they made mistakes or even acknowledging that they did, indeed, change the wording after the promo had already started and been widely reported upon.
But, yes, I agree that the saddest thing is that they've blown TTP for everyone. That would have been great and, ironically, they could still do it if they had the balls to make the necessary adjustments.
I think they botched the mupromo page by not making links from the application names to the descriptions. It's not obvious that clicking on that row of icons gives you that.
Some people may be too lazy to look up the application home pages on the internet, and when they see just a bunch of mostly unknown app names they just forget about it.
Some people may be too lazy to look up the application home pages on the internet, and when they see just a bunch of mostly unknown app names they just forget about it.
Uh here's the digg link to this.. you guys should probably digg it if you want to get intaglio.
I'm not buying until it's unlocked
http://digg.com/tech_deals/MacUpdate_Promo_Big_discounts_on_Mac_software_every_day
I'm not buying until it's unlocked
http://digg.com/tech_deals/MacUpdate_Promo_Big_discounts_on_Mac_software_every_day
Just a quick update to let you know that one of the MU guys (turns out there are only 2 of them struggling to keep up with all this), Joel, has contacted me and others who raised concerns to say they are doing their best to streamline the process, starting with making the free membership available to every customer, including those who bought in early - with the sole condition that they divulge the email addresses of 4 friends.
The majority (but not all) posters in the MUpromo discussion are willing to stomach this and many pointed out that, if you are concerned about privacy, you can always give fake addresses - you get your membership even if none of the 4 addresses you give results in a sale. Personally, I think it would have been a lot classier to make the giving of emails voluntary rather than compulsory and I'm sure that plenty of people would have been happy to help out in that way but, what the Hell, it's a move in the right direction and almost honors the original wording of the offer.
Up until now, I have given the organizers a pretty hard time, mostly because I couldn't believe how little they seemed to be doing to fix the obvious structural problems, but I accept that their mis-steps were down to inexperience and their lack of response down to there being so few of them.
While the steps they've now taken are not all we could have wished for, I accept their argument that their hands are tied with regard to real steps we might have hoped for to re-ignite momentum, such as lowering the target for TTP to a more realistic 8000. Joel tells me that, unfortunately, unlike MacHeist, such a move would be entirely in the hands of the developers.
Giving the membership to all buyers, including those who made the mistake of jumping in early, was the right thing to do and we should accept it as a gesture that the MU guys have not given up on turning this promo around. Indeed, Joel tells me that they still have every intention of seeing ALL the apps unlocked, including the $99 Tech Tool Pro.
SO ... at this point, I believe that it is in all our interests to do what we can to get this promo moving again, even if only to encourage future promos from other organizers.
With sales now at 2,900, here is what you currently get for your $49:
SRS iWOW 1.1.8
GarageSale 3.2.2
Cocktail 3.8.1
Amadeus Pro 1.0.3
Fetch 5.2.1
Little Snitch 1.2.4
MacUpdate membership $20 - but only if you also give them 4 email addresses
There is a reasonable possibility, if sales pick up once again, that the unlock target of 4000 will also be reached:
Intaglio 2.9.5
All the licenses will have the same upgrade entitlements as regular, full-price licenses expect for Intaglio, whose v3 is due soon after Leopard, but the special promo licenses will get some sort of discount if upgrading to the new version.
Sadly, due to the loss of momentum over the last 48hrs and the huge gap between unlocks, it seems highly unlikely that the 9,999 target will be reached:
Tech Tool Pro 4.5.2
... which, obviously, is a great pity, but, all the same, the bundle as it stands is a good deal.
So, I'm endorsing the bundle but there is one small thing that has to be noted: if you read their FAQ page, there is a long, rambling answer to the apparently frequently asked question "There's a lot of discussion about the free Membership coupon invites. What's the story?"
If you read through this, you'll discover that Joel feels that the people, like myself, who sacrificed our own time to point out the obvious problems in their little promo, were, in fact, being selfish. Joel doesn't like selfish people and had hoped that this promo would be an opportunity for everyone to be be selfless and good. So, clearly, it isn't that their inexperience and incompetence messed things up, it was in fact all my fault
Don't believe the hype folks, MU are running this promo to make money, they are hypocritical to suggest otherwise and are no cleaner than the MacHeist guys. All the same, it's a good bundle and, if you want to see this distribution model adopted by more developers, jump in as soon as Intaglio gets unlocked.
The majority (but not all) posters in the MUpromo discussion are willing to stomach this and many pointed out that, if you are concerned about privacy, you can always give fake addresses - you get your membership even if none of the 4 addresses you give results in a sale. Personally, I think it would have been a lot classier to make the giving of emails voluntary rather than compulsory and I'm sure that plenty of people would have been happy to help out in that way but, what the Hell, it's a move in the right direction and almost honors the original wording of the offer.
Up until now, I have given the organizers a pretty hard time, mostly because I couldn't believe how little they seemed to be doing to fix the obvious structural problems, but I accept that their mis-steps were down to inexperience and their lack of response down to there being so few of them.
While the steps they've now taken are not all we could have wished for, I accept their argument that their hands are tied with regard to real steps we might have hoped for to re-ignite momentum, such as lowering the target for TTP to a more realistic 8000. Joel tells me that, unfortunately, unlike MacHeist, such a move would be entirely in the hands of the developers.
Giving the membership to all buyers, including those who made the mistake of jumping in early, was the right thing to do and we should accept it as a gesture that the MU guys have not given up on turning this promo around. Indeed, Joel tells me that they still have every intention of seeing ALL the apps unlocked, including the $99 Tech Tool Pro.
SO ... at this point, I believe that it is in all our interests to do what we can to get this promo moving again, even if only to encourage future promos from other organizers.
With sales now at 2,900, here is what you currently get for your $49:
SRS iWOW 1.1.8
GarageSale 3.2.2
Cocktail 3.8.1
Amadeus Pro 1.0.3
Fetch 5.2.1
Little Snitch 1.2.4
MacUpdate membership $20 - but only if you also give them 4 email addresses
There is a reasonable possibility, if sales pick up once again, that the unlock target of 4000 will also be reached:
Intaglio 2.9.5
All the licenses will have the same upgrade entitlements as regular, full-price licenses expect for Intaglio, whose v3 is due soon after Leopard, but the special promo licenses will get some sort of discount if upgrading to the new version.
Sadly, due to the loss of momentum over the last 48hrs and the huge gap between unlocks, it seems highly unlikely that the 9,999 target will be reached:
Tech Tool Pro 4.5.2
... which, obviously, is a great pity, but, all the same, the bundle as it stands is a good deal.
So, I'm endorsing the bundle but there is one small thing that has to be noted: if you read their FAQ page, there is a long, rambling answer to the apparently frequently asked question "There's a lot of discussion about the free Membership coupon invites. What's the story?"
If you read through this, you'll discover that Joel feels that the people, like myself, who sacrificed our own time to point out the obvious problems in their little promo, were, in fact, being selfish. Joel doesn't like selfish people and had hoped that this promo would be an opportunity for everyone to be be selfless and good. So, clearly, it isn't that their inexperience and incompetence messed things up, it was in fact all my fault
Don't believe the hype folks, MU are running this promo to make money, they are hypocritical to suggest otherwise and are no cleaner than the MacHeist guys. All the same, it's a good bundle and, if you want to see this distribution model adopted by more developers, jump in as soon as Intaglio gets unlocked.
Yaaaay!!!
That's fantastic; I just donated my 4 additional invites on:
http://www.cedrik.fr/mupromo/
I love this promo, am grateful to MacRumors for telling us about it, and am enjoying the chance to work with other participants in getting at least Intaglio unlocked for all of us who plunked down our $50.
Join the ride if you need the apps, it's a good deal I think!
--Alice
I had tried to get an invite, but the people listed ran out or didn't answer.
Oh, well I went to purchased the bundle anyways and Safari up n crashed on me in the middle of it!
I've decided the Gods (besides a few demis around here) are against this offer. But hey I like to live dangerously (hopefully all the registration codes will work right). So now I'm enjoying iWOW and setting up GarageSale, I hope some people establish some threads on their new software and tell us about their experiences (hint).
I had tried to get an invite, but the people listed ran out or didn't answer.
Oh, well I went to purchased the bundle anyways and Safari up n crashed on me in the middle of it!
So now I'm enjoying iWOW and setting up GarageSale, I hope some people establish some threads on their new software and tell us about their experiences (hint).
I have two invites if anyone wants them. Just PM me here.
Guys, if you have any trouble getting your hands on an invite, just sign up and they'll give you the free membership anyway in return for 4 email addresses - might be quicker than getting one sent to you and they don't have to be real although, of course, real ones will spread the idea and increase the chance of them reaching the 4000 unlock.
I think there is a high chance this will need upgrading at leopard time. Its very near version 3.xx.
There were a couple of very interesting upgrading deals for some apps bundled with MacHeist. Several apps got free upgrades. Only for one the upgrade price was not a special deal. A pair saw no new versions.
I don't think that holding back to buy a newer full version later is such a good idea.
I don't think that holding back to buy a newer full version later is such a good idea.
I'll use Amadeus all the time. And I was skeptical about iWow, but after streaming some old Persian music pieces and adjusting some iWow settings, the sound is unbelievable.
I noticed Techtool has a defrag tool. I've been told many times HFS didn't need a defrag tool. What gives?
I've always understood that HFS generally didn't fragment as badly, but I don't think that fragmentation is avoidable, no matter how good your file allocation is. Especially if you fill your hard drive up a lot (which is bad for other reasons).
Defragmentation isn't as life-changing on the Mac as it is for FAT32 on the PC, but I think it's of some use.
No kidding!
The last time they did this, one of the guys made like $250k!
I don't feel bad for wanting a free macupdate membership. It seems really dumb to charge for that anyway since it really doesn't give you anything but a place to put your serials.