I really like the dynamic outlines in Pages. Replaces OmniOutliner Pro for me. And it's not "a few" new themes. It's closer to 40 new themes across all the applications.
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Macworld 2009 Keynote Stream Available
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They were... wait for it... RUMORS. Look up the top of the page. MacRumors.
A big thumbs down to Apple.......
You might want to scroll up 2 postings. Macworld Expo 2009 keynote was exactly on par with every other Macworld Expo keynote for the last 5 or 6 years.
So many people, so upset about stuff not happening that Apple never said was going to happen in the first place. Apple can never hope to live up to people expecting the imaginary.
rumors
I think the keynote should be a sign that rumor websites just aren't reliable. Macrumors and other sites like it were full of rumors, often cited to "reliable sources": updated iMac, new Mac Mini, iPhone nano, etc, etc.
But almost all of them turned out to be wrong. And you never see a post on Macrumors or Apple Insider or wherever admitted as much.
Sure, someone may have guessed about the 17 inch MacBook Pro and new iLife, but if you make a prediction that pretty much every product will get updated, you'll almost always have one correct. Even the DRM-free iTunes was first broken by CNet, a reputable news site likely with real sources.
I used to read these sites to get excited about what might be coming down the pipe, but I don't see the point anymore.
I think the keynote should be a sign that rumor websites just aren't reliable. Macrumors and other sites like it were full of rumors, often cited to "reliable sources": updated iMac, new Mac Mini, iPhone nano, etc, etc.
But almost all of them turned out to be wrong. And you never see a post on Macrumors or Apple Insider or wherever admitted as much.
Sure, someone may have guessed about the 17 inch MacBook Pro and new iLife, but if you make a prediction that pretty much every product will get updated, you'll almost always have one correct. Even the DRM-free iTunes was first broken by CNet, a reputable news site likely with real sources.
I used to read these sites to get excited about what might be coming down the pipe, but I don't see the point anymore.
The "Outrage" over the mac mini
It's funny....no one really cared about the Mac Mini a month ago until "rumors" started floating around. Now everyone is up in arms? Please.
There is a reason Mac Mini is not a hot seller, it's like AppleTV...a work in progress. It will be updated or discontinued soon, either way it's a niche market at this point. Those of you that are "furious" are either real Mac Mini users or more likely just mad at yourself for believing a rumor.
Fact is Apple is pulling out of Macworld. They put together some nice software updates to address the masses, released the much anticipated update to the 17" MBP and satisfied the hardcore music lovers too. By their own admission they want to do their own product releases and media events on their own time. So the fact that this may of been underwhelming to some only points to the reason they are abandoning this event in the first place!
It's funny....no one really cared about the Mac Mini a month ago until "rumors" started floating around. Now everyone is up in arms? Please.
There is a reason Mac Mini is not a hot seller, it's like AppleTV...a work in progress. It will be updated or discontinued soon, either way it's a niche market at this point. Those of you that are "furious" are either real Mac Mini users or more likely just mad at yourself for believing a rumor.
Fact is Apple is pulling out of Macworld. They put together some nice software updates to address the masses, released the much anticipated update to the 17" MBP and satisfied the hardcore music lovers too. By their own admission they want to do their own product releases and media events on their own time. So the fact that this may of been underwhelming to some only points to the reason they are abandoning this event in the first place!
The Mac mini is a great product for what it's for and I can't see them eliminating them. One of the cruise lines (not sure what it is) uses a whole boatload of them (literally, LOL). Renewed Vision - a worship media company that also sells to a lot of other large event customers now, recommends minis as network notes for their video player software.
They have a lot of uses in large businesses... Apple doesn't wanna lose that even if they're aren't the hottest thing among consumers...
They have a lot of uses in large businesses... Apple doesn't wanna lose that even if they're aren't the hottest thing among consumers...
Ok, I stand corrected. All in all still not that impressed, but hey... they can't please everyone. And like I said, I can't wait to upgrade my iLife, but I'll probably just be sticking with iWork '08. Don't get me wrong, iWork is great, the new features just don't justify the cost of the upgrade at this time, for me.
Ilife09? Imovie fixed?
i wonder if the iMovie 09 is really that much of an improvement from iMovie08. maybe they should just put imovie hd back in there because it was so much better! Can't wait till its release to find out. Anyone have any ideas?
Rafiullah Ahmadi
i wonder if the iMovie 09 is really that much of an improvement from iMovie08. maybe they should just put imovie hd back in there because it was so much better! Can't wait till its release to find out. Anyone have any ideas?
Rafiullah Ahmadi
this is why apple is pulling out of macworld. too much anticipation of things that don't happen, then the wave of bitching. who needs it?
these announcements today weren't that bad. no home runs, so it's seen as a failure. that's what happens when you set the bar so high.
these announcements today weren't that bad. no home runs, so it's seen as a failure. that's what happens when you set the bar so high.
ru⋅mor [roo-mer]
noun
1. a story or statement in general circulation without confirmation or certainty as to facts: a rumor of war.
2. gossip; hearsay: Don't listen to rumor.
3. Archaic. a continuous, confused noise; clamor; din.
verb (used with object)
4. to circulate, report, or assert by a rumor: It is rumored that the king is dead.
Do you subscribe to the "Apple Keynotes" podcast? Because if you do, it'll be streamed to the podcast in due time. And if you don't subscribe to it, you might consider it. The podcast already contains every major keynote, from all the major events, going as far back as Macworld 2007.
Exactly. That's about all there is to a rumour.
Synonyms of rumour: gossip, hearsay, talk, tittle-tattle, speculation, whispers, canards, word on the street, buzz, dirt, scuttlebutt, loose lips.
What if this site was called MacSpeculations or MacGossip?
2003 Keynote
I remember watching the 2003 keynote streamed live. There was a new imovie and iphoto which could be downloaded FREE that day. I believe iCal was first released that day, also a free download. Safari was first released that day as well - free download. Then they announced 12 inch and 17 inch powerbooks. Good stuff.
I remember watching the 2003 keynote streamed live. There was a new imovie and iphoto which could be downloaded FREE that day. I believe iCal was first released that day, also a free download. Safari was first released that day as well - free download. Then they announced 12 inch and 17 inch powerbooks. Good stuff.
The 2003 Macworld keynote is particularly memorable, but you're a bit inaccurate. iMovie was first released in 1999, and both iPhoto and iCal came in 2002. I believe the latter two were free downloads, but the former never was. Macworld 2003 introduced Safari as a public beta (the final release came months later), and it also introduced the 12'' and 17'' PowerBooks (again, introduced... they weren't released until a month later.)
Note how very few products ever get released immediately after Macworld. This is why Apple is moving away from Macworld, because it never fits their schedule. Have you noticed how Apple's smaller music-focused events in September have always given us at least one iPod model available immediately? Did you notice that during the October 2008 event, both the MacBook and MacBook Pro were available immediately, instead of having to wait for months? Macworld was great for showing off products, but it was always disappointing because you had to wait, often for a month or longer. But Apple is now focusing solely on smaller events. The upside is there will be more product releases more frequently (over the course of the year instead of all at once), and we can look forward to them very, very quickly, typically not much longer than a week. Isn't that better in the long run?
iMovie was free. Free as can be. Macworld 2003 was when they first coined "ilife". All programs were free to download except idvd. It was silly because you paid $49 for basically just iDVD if you actually bought the disc since everything else was free. You may be right about ical being 2002.
Regardless, I miss feeling like a kid watching the Keynote live and then downloading the new goodies to try out.
Blu-Ray
Early in the Blu-Ray HD-DVD war Apple sided on the Blu-Ray side. Now that the war is over where has Apple's support gone? Methinks it has gone to the idea of if they supported blu-ray they would not sell/rent as many movies through iTunes store.
The problem with the iTunes store is that it doesn't provide 1080p movies. If it did even my cable internet would be a pain in the backside to use to download them. My hard drive is not big enough to store my collection (I have over 2 TB but I use it for work). My hard drive is going to fail before my Blu-Ray discs do.
I also would like to backup to Blu-Ray and I have clients who want their videos in a Blu-Ray format - what am I to do, switch to a PC because Apple and Final Cut Studio don't support Blu-Ray properly.
Even just having the option as a consumer would be a nice thing to have. The technology is mainstream, Apple is fighting it.
An internal Blu-Ray player can be found for about $90 and a Blu-Ray, DVD, CD burner can be found for about $230.
Don't give me that load about it being a world of hurt - many other manufacturers are doing it. Quicktime already has the H.264 support built in.
When it all boils off I think Apple is just being greedy in that they want to sell/rent more movies in iTunes so they don't offer us the other option (which has some obvious advantages).
Apple - Think Different? or only if Different isn't different from Apple's thought process and bottom line?
Early in the Blu-Ray HD-DVD war Apple sided on the Blu-Ray side. Now that the war is over where has Apple's support gone? Methinks it has gone to the idea of if they supported blu-ray they would not sell/rent as many movies through iTunes store.
The problem with the iTunes store is that it doesn't provide 1080p movies. If it did even my cable internet would be a pain in the backside to use to download them. My hard drive is not big enough to store my collection (I have over 2 TB but I use it for work). My hard drive is going to fail before my Blu-Ray discs do.
I also would like to backup to Blu-Ray and I have clients who want their videos in a Blu-Ray format - what am I to do, switch to a PC because Apple and Final Cut Studio don't support Blu-Ray properly.
Even just having the option as a consumer would be a nice thing to have. The technology is mainstream, Apple is fighting it.
An internal Blu-Ray player can be found for about $90 and a Blu-Ray, DVD, CD burner can be found for about $230.
Don't give me that load about it being a world of hurt - many other manufacturers are doing it. Quicktime already has the H.264 support built in.
When it all boils off I think Apple is just being greedy in that they want to sell/rent more movies in iTunes so they don't offer us the other option (which has some obvious advantages).
Apple - Think Different? or only if Different isn't different from Apple's thought process and bottom line?
Phil was ok, but not as good as Steve.
Personally I'm disappointed because nothing exciting was shown or happend.
The Mac Software Pack was quite cool. Perhaps I'm going to buy this when SL is out. Time will tell.
Personally I'm disappointed because nothing exciting was shown or happend.
The Mac Software Pack was quite cool. Perhaps I'm going to buy this when SL is out. Time will tell.
Let me guess, you get paid by the hour. Salaried people like me do not think 79 bucks is much. Heck, my monthly bill for my iPhone service cost more than that "before" taxes.
I agree...
I agree with people who say the reason people are upset is because there was too much anticipation for new products.
I agree, the mini did sound cool, the nano not as realistic...but the list of rumors was quite long...so long that I was slightly upset that all Apple released was a software update to their products and a "new" computer.
Of course, after seeing the pretty cool face recognition software, map related software, and ilife/iwork upgrades, I could see the value behind the release. I mean, I'm sure the other products are coming, and the things released today were pretty interesting, so why complain that the keynote was bad??
I mean, Schiller did great in substituting Steve. It needs some work, but he's doing fine. Also, the software upgrades were good. Many of those features would WOW any casual consumer. I agree that the 17" pro may not have had as much speed bumps as some people would like, but it's pretty good as long as the new battery lives up to the standard Apple placed on it.
So there is pretty much two reasons to be unhappy:
1) You didn't see any of the rumored products.
Answer: Duh...they're rumors... Being angry that a rumor was false is comparable to being angry that you didn't find gold under a rainbow.
2) The stuff that was released wasn't good enough. (As in the new mbpro isn't very good or the programs lack features...)
Answer: I could understand this opinion. And it IS an opinion, so I can't argue that it's wrong. But I believe that face detection software, the great UI for all the new features (They learned a lot from the iphone XD), and a good solid update for the mbpro justifies a small convention that isn't completely Apple's to begin with. As long as Apple releases the good stuff somewhere around March/June, I'll be happy.
I agree with people who say the reason people are upset is because there was too much anticipation for new products.
I agree, the mini did sound cool, the nano not as realistic...but the list of rumors was quite long...so long that I was slightly upset that all Apple released was a software update to their products and a "new" computer.
Of course, after seeing the pretty cool face recognition software, map related software, and ilife/iwork upgrades, I could see the value behind the release. I mean, I'm sure the other products are coming, and the things released today were pretty interesting, so why complain that the keynote was bad??
I mean, Schiller did great in substituting Steve. It needs some work, but he's doing fine. Also, the software upgrades were good. Many of those features would WOW any casual consumer. I agree that the 17" pro may not have had as much speed bumps as some people would like, but it's pretty good as long as the new battery lives up to the standard Apple placed on it.
So there is pretty much two reasons to be unhappy:
1) You didn't see any of the rumored products.
Answer: Duh...they're rumors... Being angry that a rumor was false is comparable to being angry that you didn't find gold under a rainbow.
2) The stuff that was released wasn't good enough. (As in the new mbpro isn't very good or the programs lack features...)
Answer: I could understand this opinion. And it IS an opinion, so I can't argue that it's wrong. But I believe that face detection software, the great UI for all the new features (They learned a lot from the iphone XD), and a good solid update for the mbpro justifies a small convention that isn't completely Apple's to begin with. As long as Apple releases the good stuff somewhere around March/June, I'll be happy.
Some things I liked
I guess I'm not so hung up on the next hardware iteration as tools that will help me get things done. Here's a few things I heard that pleased me.
1. iTunes changes. I like the idea of being able to upgrade my library to iTunes Plus. Pricing model is interestinggreat for catalog miners like me, not so good for people buying the latest hits.
2. iWork collaboration could be a big win for my dispersed work team. We're writing a business plan, so sharing Pages and Numbers files over the web looks like a good solution. I'll happily beta the program. If it is good, I might even be okay about paying for the service.
3. Outlining in Pages make it a contender for the first time. Perfect imports of complex Office documents make it a no-brainer to switch our project to iWork.
4. iMovie caught my eye. I've invested some time this year learning some basic capability in Final Cut Pro. Looks to me that I would get more done and have more fun using iMovie.
5. Again, I'm not a hardware geek, but the coolest feature of the 17-inch was the new trackpad.
I guess I'm not so hung up on the next hardware iteration as tools that will help me get things done. Here's a few things I heard that pleased me.
1. iTunes changes. I like the idea of being able to upgrade my library to iTunes Plus. Pricing model is interestinggreat for catalog miners like me, not so good for people buying the latest hits.
2. iWork collaboration could be a big win for my dispersed work team. We're writing a business plan, so sharing Pages and Numbers files over the web looks like a good solution. I'll happily beta the program. If it is good, I might even be okay about paying for the service.
3. Outlining in Pages make it a contender for the first time. Perfect imports of complex Office documents make it a no-brainer to switch our project to iWork.
4. iMovie caught my eye. I've invested some time this year learning some basic capability in Final Cut Pro. Looks to me that I would get more done and have more fun using iMovie.
5. Again, I'm not a hardware geek, but the coolest feature of the 17-inch was the new trackpad.