Macworld 2009 Keynote Stream Available

[xbjllb]

As a creative professional running both 3D design and sound architecture in the same studio I'm a little more than irritated at apple right now.

I'll break this down for you on a personal level. Top 10 Style.

#1. Having invest $30,000 in apple products just in the last 2 years, buying 3 Mac Pro's, a macbook pro and a macbook. I'm not only mad at the fact that apple seems to care more about how thin their next iPod is than how fast a Mac pro can render, they have had absolutely piss poor communication with 3rd party application developers that basically make it necessary to OWN a high end mac.

#2. They rarely let people know what's going on internally, as an investor. I'd like to know if your next big release for an event we've waited a year for is simply an "iWork" update, so that I know not to waste my time buying tickets.

#3. What happened to the focus on independent companies, non-corporate creative companies, and the ARTISTS in general.. I remember years ago being so sold on apple because they seemed like the underdog who knew exactly what the people needed.

#4. There is NO other options available. They're so sue happy these days nobody can create anything to fill the void in the professional consumers needs. I mean, I'm %100 dedicated to apple as a company.. well .. I used to be.

#5. Is apple a toy company now? Seems like the focus is on iToy this and super thin that. Do I care if my macbook is 14oz's lighter than the one I spent $3,200 on last year? NO.. Do I care if it's cutting edge. Yes.

#6. Is Steve Jobs the only one with a brain at apple these days? I'll leave that one to you..

#7. Mac Mini? The red-headed step child thats not getting child support.. Name one company that makes a NEW computer, then doesnt mention it for years. Oh yea.. Apple.

#8. Blu Ray support. Not that I would ever want it in any of my computers.. but only because I own a home theatre. Why not give the people what they want? It's not like adding a blu ray compatible drive would change everything.. Meanwhile they're letting WINDOWS wave it in their face. Dying platform, Maybe? Is their a demand? Yes.. Supply? No..

#9. Lack of communication with 3rd party developers of professional applications. You know who I'm talking about.. why the 5 month gap. is ANY developing company going to be ready when they wiggle out snow leopard like a kid handing a fake ID to a cop?

#10. This is going to be a grab bag. Realllllyyyyyyy dumb people working at the apple stores. At least mine at Easton Town Centre. No reach around.. I mean, when you buy a nice car you get a call thanking you for your purchase a few days later.. where's my call apple? Nobody seemed to lift an eyebrow when I spent 20k in 10 minutes in your store. REALLY high replacement costs, repairs and over priced warranties.

Been reading here for years, I'm finally mad enough to register and make a post. Apple needs a swift kick in the ass. Also need to be weened off of Jobs, the poor guy's sick ya know?

Take care guys

Here here.

In summation: Jobs same lack of vision and foresight and basic intelligence to make a lifetime personal choice to fill his life with smoke, and the denial and refusing to accept responsibility therewith since becoming terminal, is the exact same lack of vision and foresight and denial and basic intelligence regarding abandoning power pro-content creator users who need Blu-ray, that will soon make Apple an irrevocably terminal overpriced toy hawker.

Who knows, maybe he's as stupid as Patrick Swayze who is STILL poisoning his DYING body umpteen times a day. That's usually the source of the denial for THAT half of the equation.

Only Steve Jobs isn't as famous as Patrick Swayze so he doesn't get Barbara Walters sticking him to the wall on it on national TV; instead, he gets ME.

And I've got a far bigger mouth.

Smoking kills, as does denial. You can't do the former without the latter.

Denial kills companies.

 

[Digital Skunk]

Obviously when you don't have much of anything good to say now, you say that better stuff is coming.

Or, when you can't prove to someone that knows better that the current Apple lineup is become more and more like garbage, you say that better stuff is coming.

Much like the iPhone SDK fiasco. There were SO many problems with the first run iPhones and their limitations and all anyone could say was, "Wait for the SDK, wait for the SDK!!!!11!" Then it came and everyone screamed, "WAIT FOR THE APP STORE, wait for the app store!!!!11!!!"

And in typical fashion, lame keynote with a backward step in 17" laptop technology and everyone is shouting, "WOW! Eight hours of batt life on a machine I'd never own, and is so thin it can't take processors from 4 months ago, COOL! that's what I always wanted"

 

[curmi]

In summation: Jobs same lack of vision and foresight and basic intelligence to make a lifetime personal choice to fill his life with smoke, and the denial and refusing to accept responsibility therewith since becoming terminal, is the exact same lack of vision and foresight and denial and basic intelligence regarding abandoning power pro-content creator users who need Blu-ray, that will soon make Apple an irrevocably terminal overpriced toy hawker.

Who knows, maybe he's as stupid as Patrick Swayze who is STILL poisoning his DYING body umpteen times a day. That's usually the source of the denial for THAT half of the equation.

Hey xbjllb, why are you being so mean about Jobs. Why make it personal?

I'm agreeing with you about Blu-ray, but there's no need to keep making nasty comments about cancer and smoking. Stick with the facts about Blu-ray, rather than cheap attacks on Jobs.

 

[waffle911]

Is it me or dose the song choice in the macworld keynote of 'the best is yet to come' raise thoughts that apple may be planning something in the coming weeks/months. Maybe even another event.

That's the first thing I thought of when I saw the keynote.
Either:
A. It could very realistically possibly be a hint of a probable clue that the best is in speculative fact yet to come. Maybe.
OR
B. It is a red herring thrown in deliberately to cause controversy and speculation among Apple enthusiasts and analysts to get our proverbial panties in a bunch.

 

[NT1440]

That's the first thing I thought of when I saw the keynote.
Either:
A. It could very realistically possibly be a hint of a probable clue that the best is in speculative fact yet to come. Maybe.
OR
B. It is a red herring thrown in deliberately to cause controversy and speculation among Apple enthusiasts and analysts to get our proverbial panties in a bunch.

I'd side with A) seeing as theyve already publicly stated that NEW products are on the way (i forget when they said that tho).

Can someone do me a favor and tell me what the paper on the keynote podium on the keynote icon says? I couldnt help but notice the new one for iwork had Q4 2009 on it. I dont really think it means anything tho because it just seems like what would be on a paper for a business keynote icon.

 

[xbjllb]

Hey xbjllb, why are you being so mean about Jobs. Why make it personal?

I'm agreeing with you about Blu-ray, but there's no need to keep making nasty comments about cancer and smoking. Stick with the facts about Blu-ray, rather than cheap attacks on Jobs.

I'm sorry, really. I guess I have a problem with famous and very influential people (who stupidly started smoking in the first place because not enough famous and influential people who were dying from it came out and tried to convince them otherwise) therefore who DON'T come out themselves and try to keep the next generation from making the same stupid and deadly mistake.

I will always see that as a lost opportunity, and a dereliction of duty as a human being. And the media is often too complicit by lying about the true cause of death.

What you are perceiving as "nasty" is merely anger at the useless loss of life too early, thrown away because of stupidity and/or denial and/or arrogance (it won't ever get ME.) We've lost too many good people who weren't through with their work, to that poison.

I wish Steve Jobs never smoked. I wish he might get better against all possible odds.

THEN, and only then, comes my wish that he'd added Blu-ray when he should have in time to keep the Mac's high end pro base and the Mac's cutting edge cachet.

That's probably why I keep linking the two. To concentrate on one while ignoring the other would be MY dereliction of duty as a human being.

If ONE SINGLE person quits because of the arguments here, they're worth it. I care more about that than I do Blu-ray. So I try.

But since I can't save Steve, and I'm not likely to save anyone here from the same fate, I'm trying to save the next best thing:

 

[natteaap]

The stock market is a multifactorial beast just like the weather. If we could predict how the market would react, we'd all be billionaires. Hell Apple's stock went down on news of their best year ever. I doubt investors care too much about what was released at Macworld and unless you are a day trader, it's not even worth a gander.

I am a day trader. Don't know the english word for it. (speculant?) But there's small profit with low risks in these uncertain times.

But the fact is that it is not really true what you say. The stock market follows the real world closely. One rumor about Steve Jobs health could make the stocks drop in an instant (hence the steep drop a few days ago, closely timed with the newsleak) The stocks did not go down on the news of their best year ever, but because of the uncertainty at what Apple would do with the money. Anyways, this isn't the place for that kind of discussion

 

[iasky]

I am a day trader. Don't know the english word for it. (speculant?) But there's small profit with low risks in these uncertain times.

Close.. speculator. Would have never guesses English was your second language. I see your point, I only do long term stock investment.

 

[iasky]

I guess these once valuable customers aren't so valuable now that iPod and iPhone money is pouring in. They can switch to Windows if they need Blu-ray? Other PC manufacturers can somehow include Blu-ray on far less expensive machines.

I bought an external Blu-Ray Burner from La Cie for <$400, and I use it with all my computers, which makes it an even better investment. That's what third party vendors are for. You don't have to change your computer for a choice of media. It's the $25/disk that's killing me.

 

[curmi]

Close.. speculator. Would have never guesses English was your second language. I see your point, I only do long term stock investment.

We actually use the phrase "day trader" in Australia, so given we speak English, natteaap's English was perfect, and also colloquial.

 

[mrrydogg]

I made no such claims or links. I have stated that certain segments will go down due to unrelated factors brought up by other folks. Straw man arguments do not serve to advance your position.

Lets take a look at YOUR WORDS...

"The Pro market is interconnected and linked like a house of cards; remove an essential card at the bottom that might not be holding up the entire pack but only a handful in the structure, AND THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE COMES DOWN TAKING EVERYTHING WITH IT.

Lose ANY segment of your Pro market because of corporate idiotic shortsightedness based on too-far-in-the-future stargazing, and you WILL LOSE ALL OF IT. The VIDEO Pro market needed Blu-ray DELIVERY. LAST YEAR.

Apple WILL NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT THE PRO MARKET.

As they are about to find out, the hard way."


Be careful about generalities, they often come back to bite you.

Don't tell me how my business works EVERY DAY. Or those in my profession, or my industry, O Clueless One.

You should also know that I reside in "your industry". So I am not as clueless as you would like me to be.

 

[xbjllb]

Lets take a look at YOUR WORDS...

"The Pro market is interconnected and linked like a house of cards; remove an essential card at the bottom that might not be holding up the entire pack but only a handful in the structure, AND THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE COMES DOWN TAKING EVERYTHING WITH IT.

Lose ANY segment of your Pro market because of corporate idiotic shortsightedness based on too-far-in-the-future stargazing, and you WILL LOSE ALL OF IT. The VIDEO Pro market needed Blu-ray DELIVERY. LAST YEAR.

Apple WILL NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT THE PRO MARKET.

As they are about to find out, the hard way."


Be careful about generalities, they often come back to bite you.

To whit, since you're having trouble following the logic: A Mac-based video editing suite company leaves the platform because they can't deliver Blu-ray to their customers (ALL of which are demanding it for commercials, corporate videos, music videos, the occasional TV show and feature film, and on the odd occasion, wedding videos) without going to the Windoze platform, and decide to completely switch over in disgust and anger with Apple. They previously dealt with a Mac-based jingle house to create music for those videos. The jingle-house can no longer make music for the video house because they can't read Blu-ray discs without running Windoze, nor properly link up music in FCP to that video without absurd and also highly-annoying workarounds.

The video house, upon changing formats, goes to a jingle house that can. Or the jingle house, using Windoze more and more, leaves Apple.

This is ONE specific example, of many, in the "generalities" I was referring to above. By the house of cards falling, I meant, over time, all Apple-based businesses being forced to use Windoze to do things they should be able to do on Mac OS, will merely chose to use Windoze more and more and leave the Mac Platform, and Apple with it.

Bottom line: the entire business community is interconnected; Apple loses market share in one segment because it is no longer serving the needs of one particular business, and it absolutely will lose it in many other related and interconnected businesses that might not have seem to have been connected on the surface.

Much like the way cancer kills a body.

You should also know that I reside in "your industry". So I am not as clueless as you would like me to be.

IF you resided in "my industry", you would know that Apple will not survive with the loss of the pro base. Furthermore, your customers would be screaming for Blu-ray delivery, you would be fed up with having to use Windoze after the money YOU'D spent, and you'd be bitching about it even louder than I am. I deal in both video and audio, and I needed Blu-ray last year.

And I will be proven right; Apple also needed Blu-ray, LAST year.

 

[natteaap]

Close.. speculator. Would have never guesses English was your second language. I see your point, I only do long term stock investment.

Thanx for the compliment

 

[natteaap]

We actually use the phrase "day trader" in Australia, so given we speak English, natteaap's English was perfect, and also colloquial.

Now there's a word I had to look up in the dictionairy But I guess you're right. I learned English mainly by speaking and watching television (and who said TV ain't good for you ) and reading books. Never had lessons. I guess it shows with that being colloquial and all

thanx for the compliment

cheers

 

[natteaap]

To whit, since you're having trouble following the logic: A Mac-based video editing suite company leaves the platform because they can't deliver Blu-ray to their customers (ALL of which are demanding it for commercials, corporate videos, music videos, the occasional TV show and feature film, and on the odd occasion, wedding videos) without going to the Windoze platform, and decide to completely switch over in disgust and anger with Apple. They previously dealt with a Mac-based jingle house to create music for those videos. The jingle-house can no longer make music for the video house because they can't read Blu-ray discs without running Windoze, nor properly link up music in FCP to that video without absurd and also highly-annoying workarounds.

The video house, upon changing formats, goes to a jingle house that can. Or the jingle house, using Windoze more and more, leaves Apple.

This is ONE specific example, of many, in the "generalities" I was referring to above. By the house of cards falling, I meant, over time, all Apple-based businesses being forced to use Windoze to do things they should be able to do on Mac OS, will merely chose to use Windoze more and more and leave the Mac Platform, and Apple with it.

Bottom line: the entire business community is interconnected; Apple loses market share in one segment because it is no longer serving the needs of one particular business, and it absolutely will lose it in many other related and interconnected businesses that might not have seem to have been connected on the surface.

Much like the way cancer kills a body.




IF you resided in "my industry", you would know that Apple will not survive with the loss of the pro base. Furthermore, your customers would be screaming for Blu-ray delivery, you would be fed up with having to use Windoze after the money YOU'D spent, and you'd be bitching about it even louder than I am. I deal in both video and audio, and I needed Blu-ray last year.

And I will be proven right; Apple also needed Blu-ray, LAST year.

Can I make one small contribution to this line of thought? I'm not a professional. I'm merely working in an small studio part-time and have written products for bigger projects. I'm Mac based (and yes I really need that new Mac Pro soon, because I'm need to move it up a notch). I am also producing a tutorial video at this moment. Maybe it is because I am not a professional, but i do work with top notch studio's from time to time an I have never been presented with a bluray disc. Small projects come on DVD. Big projects dodn't fit on a blu ray disc. They come in Ext HD. At least with what i'm working.
And those studio's I sometimes work with also would like to have Blu ray, but they have bought some ext Blu ray writers and use Toast (or maybe something else, the tech mentioned Toast)

So once again there is a difference between "need" and "want". I haven't heard anyone in my country speaking about "the end of Apple" for missing out on the Blu ray train. Quite the opposite actualy. Blu ray is a marginal phenomenon in my experience.

But then again, I'm not a producer for Hollywood blockbusters or Mastering the next "hiphop soon to be shot interchangeable big star" DVD. I'm merely making commercial tutorials and small assignments. So maybe I'm not qualified.

 

[johnsawyercjs]

Blu-Ray for the masses

I bought an external Blu-Ray Burner from La Cie for <$400, and I use it with all my computers, which makes it an even better investment. That's what third party vendors are for. You don't have to change your computer for a choice of media.

Pssst, iasky: as I found earlier, nobody posting here seems to want to listen when someone suggests that one can get Blu-Ray for their Mac by just buying a third-party Blu-Ray drive. They'd rather blast Apple for not providing Blu-Ray built-in.

Anybody care to hazard a guess why? I can't figure it out, beyond the inevitable non-answer "Why should I spend an extra $400 to buy a Blu-Ray drive when I just bought an expensive new Mac that should have had one built-in?" Which doesn't address the fact that, if Apple had built it in, the Mac might have cost that additional $400, if not more.

xbjllb:
Re smoking: I agree, it's obviously awful. I hate to see what it's done to several of the people closest to me--cancer, obstructive pulmonary disease, lugging around compressed air, pain and embarrassment of addiction, cost, confusion, death. But it's not so much stupidity--the smokers I know are quite bright. They got hooked on smoking years ago, when about the only word of warning was the occasional anti-smoking ad on TV. I suspect the same is true of Jobs. Nicotine gives quite a brain boost--maybe it's partly responsible for Apple's successes via Jobs.

I always wanted to scream when I saw tobacco company executives on TV over the years, getting away with selling their products, by never admitting nicotine was addictive--as if the law required a perpetrator to admit guilt before charges are brought.

 

[r0cki]

Has Macworld finished? I'm not paying much attention lately (bad English i know)

 

[Vanilla Thunder]

Why a comment like this? Are you a Pro-PC guy, Anti-Apple/Mac or part of the Apple community?

Seriously, just asking. Trying to understand the logic.


EDIT: just searched his posts. 'splains it all. nothing but driveling crap and loads of negativity.

TROLL.

You are a tool

 

[natteaap]

Nicotine gives quite a brain boost--maybe it's partly responsible for Apple's successes via Jobs.

Wasn't it LSD that gave the Mac it's breakthrough? Saw a documentairy about that once.

 

[Roessnakhan]

Wasn't it LSD that gave the Mac it's breakthrough? Saw a documentairy about that once.

You referring to "Pirates of Silicon Valley"? I don't think that would constitute a documentary.

 

[johnsawyercjs]

Apple and acid

Wasn't it LSD that gave the Mac it's breakthrough? Saw a documentairy about that once.

What led to the Mac, was a three-day trip Jobs and others at Apple made to Xerox PARC in December 1979 (I don't know if this decision was inspired by any acid trips though). That trip prompted him to work on developing the Lisa, but others to work on developing the Mac. Once he saw how good their work was, he sided with them, and then hired even more smart people to develop it further.

 

[CrackedButter]

Pssst, iasky: as I found earlier, nobody posting here seems to want to listen when someone suggests that one can get Blu-Ray for their Mac by just buying a third-party Blu-Ray drive. They'd rather blast Apple for not providing Blu-Ray built-in.

Anybody care to hazard a guess why? I can't figure it out, beyond the inevitable non-answer "Why should I spend an extra $400 to buy a Blu-Ray drive when I just bought an expensive new Mac that should have had one built-in?" Which doesn't address the fact that, if Apple had built it in, the Mac might have cost that additional $400, if not more.

You have a point but seems nobody wants to accept it, what is another $400 if you're a professional after all. It would be cheaper than buying back in windows wouldn't it?

 

[natteaap]

You referring to "Pirates of Silicon Valley"? I don't think that would constitute a documentary.

No It was a dutch documentairy. It was not about computers but about the wider social aspect of drugs in society. How it was once legal and even advertised and now outlawed. And in that context there was an item on the creative aspect of LSD and how amongst others Jobs and Wozniak had a vision during one of their trips.

But it was a long time ago since I seen it ;o)

 

[NT1440]

No It was a dutch documentairy. It was not about computers but about the wider social aspect of drugs in society. How it was once legal and even advertised and now outlawed. And in that context there was an item on the creative aspect of LSD and how amongst others Jobs and Wozniak had a vision during one of their trips.

But it was a long time ago since I seen it ;o)

Woz never used LSD, only jobs.

Id suggest reading iWoz, GREAT book that really gives some honest insight to the beginning of apple.

 

[xbjllb]

You have a point but seems nobody wants to accept it, what is another $400 if you're a professional after all. It would be cheaper than buying back in windows wouldn't it?

Let's see.. IF you'd spent $10,000 for YOUR Mac, and IF everytime you needed to hook up your iPhone or iPod to it or you needed to burn a CD, YOU'D have to switch over to Windoze and use a Windoze program to do it, I'd just bet YOU'D FINALLY GET IT.