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How can you say that the banner is fake... Why would anyone fake a banner. Its clearly real. enough people live near moscone... Someone should hopefully confirm it. I live in the UK so i cant
 
Haha, lucky me, my birthday is a couple days after the keynote, I'll see if I can get anything good.
 
No choice but to buy iTV

I've wanted such a box for a long time (no Tivo in Quebec AFAIK), and I need to buy one for my company... :D
 
OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

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Is it me or do the sides of the elevator looked warped? Looks real though! Although suspiciously not grainy enough...
 
Living in the Bay Area, I can confirm that that is indeed Moscone South. I haven't been by to check out the banner, but the escalators and lobby configuration are genuine. So, I'm going to vote for legitimate on the banner image.

[Edit]:

Hee hee - next floor, the great chasm and fall to the lobby!
I can also confirm that that is indeed Moscone South as I've been to an AES convention there (Audio Engineering Society). The escalators lead to a lot of doors (which can be seen under the banner) and through them will be the exhibition floor. Its freaking huge (link is a pdf of the floor plan). Took me most of the day to walk around it and check out all the booths and I still didn't see everything. I'm not sure if that is where the keynote will be but most likely as it is the biggest room in the building. Although there are some other large ones on the second floor to the east of the exhibition floor which, if I remember correctly, have collapsable walls. The keynote may take place there.

In all honesty, that banner looks real. Probably taken on a camera phone by someone working at Moscone (janitor, etc.) which is completely believable and possible. Also, you wouldn't be able to see that banner from the street as its on the lower level (LL [like a basement]) and a good way back from the front doors.
 
That's NOT what iTV Does!!

But you're missing the point. Your Mac is the Media Center. iTV is simple a device to allow all your media on your Mac to be displayed. The last thing Apple is going to do is build the iTV into another computer when we all have our Macs already. Keep the iTV as simple as possible to wirelessly display all your content on the TV. Then, if they add full Media Center capabilities into the Mac that would be OK. However, aren't we trying to move form the model where we all have to wait for a broadcast time, setup our devices to record it, store it, and then watch it when we want, to a model where we get anything we want on demand over the internet ? I think Apple will move us away from TiVO and Media Centers as we know it to getting content from the internet (or owned media) any time we want with it all managed on our Mac, displayed on your TV, iPod, or computer anywhere you want it.

yes, but the point is that iTV is not reported to steam "ALL YOUR MEDIA," but only iTunes media!
That's a HUGE difference! If iTV indeed only steams iTunes media (iTunes downloaded content), then it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. The clue is that it says "Front-row like interface." The same reason Front Row sucks is that it doesn't display anything accept loaded dvds (you can't interface well with other media content, can't setup a prefered player like VLC, etc.
To succeed, iTV MUST:
--handle HD content
--stream ANY format of media content (or at least the standard video formats) and not just iTunes
--have an imput for external hard drives

If the iTV had dvr capabilities then it would REALLY rock and I'd buy it for sure, but it won't. But if it has the above capabilities, then I'd consider it. Honestly, it HAS to, or it's not innovative at all.
Check out this item from D-Link
http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=438
This streams other video content, has imputs for external drives, etc. It's also cheaper than $299. iTV has to be BETTER than this, or at least as good, or only the crazy mac uber-fanboys will buy it.
 
Anybody else notice that there is more light coming from that banner, as opposed to the one on Apple's homepage?
 
The banner is real, but it has nothing to do with iTV.

The banner, in fact, is a prequel to 2007 and OS X's complete eclipse of Vista...which isn't news to most of us.
 
yes, but the point is that iTV is not reported to steam "ALL YOUR MEDIA," but only iTunes media!
That's a HUGE difference! If iTV indeed only steams iTunes media (iTunes downloaded content), then it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. The clue is that it says "Front-row like interface." The same reason Front Row sucks is that it doesn't display anything accept loaded dvds (you can't interface well with other media content, can't setup a prefered player like VLC, etc.
To succeed, iTV MUST:
--handle HD content
--stream ANY format of media content (or at least the standard video formats) and not just iTunes
--have an imput for external hard drives

If the iTV had dvr capabilities then it would REALLY rock and I'd buy it for sure, but it won't. But if it has the above capabilities, then I'd consider it. Honestly, it HAS to, or it's not innovative at all.
Check out this item from D-Link
http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=438
This streams other video content, has imputs for external drives, etc. It's also cheaper than $299. iTV has to be BETTER than this, or at least as good, or only the crazy mac uber-fanboys will buy it.


thats what I have been saying all along! Why the hell do I want something that streams only low quality crap from iTunes to my HDtv? What's the point? Plus, I have owned the D-Link thing for like a year now....Apple isn't innovating anything. Without tivo/Dvr the iTv is just just a crappy product that is a year too late. The ONLY people that will buy this are crazy apple fans on this website.
 
Anybody else notice that there is more light coming from that banner, as opposed to the one on Apple's homepage?

Anyone know that there were probably a dozen plus different versions made with that look and feel before one was chosen for Apple's homepage? More light in the photo doesn't make me question it. The homepage graphic and banner are totally different dimensions, tweaking WOULD need to be made.
 
In all honesty, that banner looks real. Probably taken on a camera phone by someone working at Moscone (janitor, etc.) which is completely believable and possible. Also, you wouldn't be able to see that banner from the street as its on the lower level (LL [like a basement]) and a good way back from the front doors.
Forgot to mention this - indeed you would have to be inside to take the shot, since the the lobby configuration places the banner and red doors beneath it almost entirely below street level. IIRC, if you peek through the front doors of Moscone South, it may be possible to see the top of the banner only.

Incidentally, the exhibit hall should be through the doors below the banner (where all the vendors and product demos are located). Stevenote would probably take place on the first floor - there's a whole 'nother auditorium that could fit as many as 2,500 above the exhibition floor. Alternative locations for Stevenote could also be Moscone North across the street, or the relatively new Moscone West about a block away (which is freaking huge with a really tall glassed in lobby/atrium). Though also IIRC, Stevenote takes place in Moscone South so everyone can stream right from it to the exhibition hall below.
 
Soo you're saying apple invented a warp zone where elevator doors actually just beam people across large convention center entrances? SWEEET! I knew this would be a great MacWorld.

OMG LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

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the iTV will do more

obviously. it's not worth discussing. consider this:

the iTV is $300. the iPod is $250. with a $17 cable, you can connect your iPod to your TV and play anything on your iPod (so, anything in your iTunes), with video resolution of up to 640 across, or "near DVD resolution".

if jobs doesn't blow our minds with secret features like he CONSISTENTLY DOES, the iTV will do HALF of what the ipod does, only slightly more conveniently. only idiots would by it. and we aren't idiots, are we?

maybe some of us.

point is: our returning messiah, steve jobs, wouldn't put such a boastful banner on the site to talk about a product he already announced months ago. he announced the product with half the features to throw off competitors, who will scramble to meet (or slightly exceed) the features he announced previously so he can blow them all out of the water when he announces the device formerly known as iTV also performs fellatio the user (admin password required).

did i mention steve jobs is jesus? i'm not sure i did. well anyway, he's jesus.

and the "one more thing" is going to be the iBot. OMG RUMORS WAHT IS IT!!1
 
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