MacWorld Boston... No Apple?

[iAryeh]

No iJobs

This means that Steve Jobs will not be doing the Keynote. That means no product announcments or anything of that nature. What will we ever do?

 

[JtheLemur]

Who would of thought eh? =)

Who would have thought, even!

New York City- our city can kick your city's ass.

 

[Freg3000]

Originally posted by yzedf
I thought Macworld was just some magazine.

Why doesn't Apple start their own expo? Or is this them trying to use someone elses dime?

Yeah, why not? It doesn't have to be a whole big thing, most people just want a keynote anyway. Why do they have to go through IDG?

 

[bostonjordan]

Originally posted by Eric-C
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Boston happens to be the most densely college student populated city in the USA. A statistic showed that the average age the people of Boston was 28. Getting students (who are usually more accepting to change) to switch, especially en masse, could potentially establish a concrete consumer base. As a soon to be college student myself, I notice that a lot of my friends are investing money on lap tops, as they are anticipating the need for portability. Many of them have not considered Apple.

I know that Stanford U. unofficially endorses Apple as most of their students use them (this is by word of mouth), and having Harvard, *MIT*, Tufts, or Boston College become an Apple majority school might not be so bad for the company's rep.

And Boston University! Let's not forget them. In the College of Communication, you are shunned if a PC walks through the door.

Unfortunately, the expo is held in the summer -- so most college students won't be around anyway. HOWEVER, it DOES provide Apple with the perfect opportunity to court the schools' IT departments.

I have a suggestion: Macworld MINNEAPOLIS. Right in the middle of everything and close to my summer residence.

 

[LinuxGigolo]

Originally posted by hvfsl
The only other expo is paris before 2004 and they do not normally release new products there.

If I recall correctly, the Indigo, Key (S)lime, and updated graphite (466) iBooks were intro'd at AEaris. Not saying that this makes Paris a more likely candidate for a big product intro, but hey... it could happen.

 

[Sedulous]

One has to wonder if the choice in MW has to do with target audience. Clearly Boston would be the place to go if you wanted education and research market exposure (numerous large universities such as MIT, Harvard, BU, BC, NorthEastern as well as the 2nd largest software development and the largest biotech industry in the USA). New York would have a larger business market.

 

[springscansing]

Originally posted by JtheLemur

New York City- our city can kick your city's ass.

Haha, it totally can too.

 

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Fender2112
Did Apple ever give a reason for not attending the Macworld Boston?

Yes it said because. And that is a damned good enough reason.

No they didn't want to hurt NYC economically even more then it is already. They wanted to be all american... haha.

Boston aint part of america.

 

[d00d]

Boston is a wonderful city

I'm not going to pick on New York or give in to the childish rivalry that seems to be between these two cities. I like New York, but I like Boston too. I'm closer to Boston so I might be able to make it out to one out here.

If you say that Boston sucks or that New York is just plain better, you haven't given it a chance.

I think this move by Apple is just inane. I can't figure it out. I can't understand the reasoning. Heck, even bad press is good press. Why would they pass this up? The excitement generated by these events is only a good thing for Apple.

 

[Trinity570]

NYC closer to more markets

IDG is not thinking here. Who's actually going to go to Boston if Apple isn't there?! NYC is a far better location since it's closer to more markets. Philly is close by, DC and Baltimore are closer and Boston is fairly close to North. NYC is a no-brainer. It's more centrally located so more people can get to it. This will be my last Macworld (provided Apple attends). IDG is just shooting themselves in the foot by making this move.

 

[PeteyNice]

It also should be noted that IDG is a Boston-area based company.

In response to d00d, MacWorlds generate a lot of buzz because usually Apple announces cool stuff. If they were just to show up and not announce cool stuff the buzz would die considerably. As has been mentioned before having an announcement schedule that matches up with MacWorlds is tough on Apple. They want to get out of it all together and do something more fliexible.

While I think MacWorlds are fun and unique I understand their point.

 

[3xtrmn8r]

New York has Madison Ave.

Most magazines are based out of New York.

These are two of Apple's key markets. A no brainer ASFAIC.

 

[Mudbug]

Originally posted by 3xtrmn8r
ASFAIC.

I know I'm not the "chatmaster", but what does this mean, please?

Oh, and I think (being in Louisiana) that Apple has one of it's biggest customer bases in the publishing industry as a whole, and most (generalizing - be nice) publishing co's are in New York, they should stay there. But either way, I'm not going. I like to watch on QuickTime, see the pictures on the Apple site, but I'm not plunking down the $$ equivalent of a new powermac to see what many journalists call an Apple "Revival."

Without any bias towards either city, New York sounds like a better venue to the non-northeasterner like me.

just my ¢¢.

 

[thepickledegg]

also canceled

Bagdad, Iraq 2003
and some undisclosed place in North Korea

 

[zaphoyd]

Originally posted by Mudbug
I know I'm not the "chatmaster", but what does this mean, please?

As far as i see/know i would guess

 

[springscansing]

AFAIK = as far as i know

ASFAIC Is just made up, heh.

 

[chewbaccapits]

Okay..This is supposed to be the most important year for APPLE...But All I read in the news is trouble for APPLE...You take this expo for instance...They should have resolved this last year...Then I hear that Apple is trying to give its users the shaft ; http://www.dailytrojan.com/article.do?issue=/V148/N15&id=04-bit.15c.html

Then Opera will stop developing its browser for the mac...And wasn't Apple being sued for infrigement on some company's "LED" patent. Apparently, or allegedlly, once Apple patented that idea, a company (I forgot where that one was..I know I read something on it here though..) alledges that APPLE stole the idea in the first place...I mean, doesn't all this court crap hold APPLE back? This post reads very negative but you add this with the slower processors , iPod batteries dying on or before its 1-year warranty, crappy economy and, well, ....you can help but think this could be the WORST year for APPLE..

 

[thabridawg]

does this mean there won't be a Steve keynote.. or that Apple with be COMPLETELY missing from Boston.

It's kinda weird if there wasn't any Apple stuff whatsoever... I mean.. even Microsoft and Adobe have booths and such. Wouldn't Apple have at least a booth?

 

[ryan]

Pay attention people

Apple does not want to tie their product release cycles to arbitrary dates established by the Macworlds twice a year. Traditionally Apple would see their sales dry up in the weeks preceding a Macworld, after which one of the following would occur. Either Apple would announce a new/upgraded product at a Macworld and suddenly they would be crushed with orders that they would have a hard time filling or, if they didn’t announce new/upgraded products the “Apple faithful” would cry bloody murder (on forums like these) for not getting what the rumor sites said would be announced. Either way this boom and bust cycle would cause havoc with Apple’s financial books. With Apple pulling away from the Macworlds they are able to announce/release new/upgraded products when those products are ready, end of story.

 

[bignumbers]

Getting sick of this game

I'm really getting sick of this MacWorld game. Apple told IDG they WOULD participate in a MacWorld/Boston 2004. This was while IDG was in negotiations with Boston for moving the show. (This comes from good authority; I've discussed this with someone who works for IDG Expos.)

Then simultaneous with the big announcement (marching band and all), Apple changed its mind. I love Apple, but this was a horrid thing to do.

If Apple pulls out, there is no expo. Yeah, bad for us, but horrible for the hosting city (whether Boston or NYC). Did you know 90,000 people came to the MacWorld/SF last month? Can you imagine the damage that does to the local economy? How many people will/won't have jobs as a result? This is the game that Apple is playing.

I've been to every east coast expo for about 15 years, and a few SF shows too. Boston is the better city to host the east coast show. It's IMPORTANT to Boston, and they do it up right. To NYC, it's just something that takes place in a corner of the city. I'll go to it in either city; I just think Boston is a better place.

Size of city and local industry is irrelevant. The western show is in SF, while LA has more people and the entertainment industry. Anyone think LA would be a better place for the show?

But my real point is Apple deserves some significant complaining for this whole game. A Boston show, with its lower costs and new convention center, would lure back some big vendors (Adobe, Macromedia, etc) who no longer do NYC. It would be a great show. But the game has the potential to wreak havoc on real lives, making our complaining of the better city a paltry problem in comparison.

Hmmph!

 

[bignumbers]

Re: Pay attention people

Originally posted by ryan
Apple does not want to tie their product release cycles to arbitrary dates established by the Macworlds twice a year.

This I agree with. I've long believed MacWorldExpos should be rescheduled for more appropriate times to announce products. February/March for the education-buying season, and September/October for the holiday-buying season.

The current timing (mid-summer and just after the holidays) really are the worst times to release products.

 

[redAPPLE]

Originally posted by hvfsl
If there is no Apple at Boston, when are they going to release the PPC 970 Macs. The only other expo is paris before 2004 and they do not normally release new products there.

The PPC970 launch is too big to release at anything other than a US Mac Expo, I just hope this doesn't mean we have to wait until SF 2004 to get a new PPC970 Mac.

actually a scary thought isn't?

it's like santa claus saying, "ok folks, flying around in winter is killing my bones... and i've got athritis now... i will be just be bringing the goodies in May..."

like i said, a scary thought...

 

[Jaguar NYC]

I say keep it in NYC... I live in New York and want to keep the MacWorld Expo there.

 

[Xerov]

Originally posted by irmongoose
You guys in the US should have realised this ages ago...

What's the nickname for NYC? Big Apple!

Hehehe...




irmongoose

I did. And posted it in the other tread on this topic.

 

[squatch]

MWNC or even MWTX!!

Hey, I like the sound of that!! I'm from Asheville and the closest store to me is in Raleigh...they could hold it in the Queen City.

I'm actually in Texas right now in the Metroplex at school and with the overwhelming technological hub this whole area is....I could just see a MWTX....Steve walking on stage in cowboy boots and a hat doing a John Wayne type keynote..."Well what we have hear little lady is a new 64 bit computer that'll blow the dust right off your spurs"
Yee haw, forget ropin' "Longhorns"....let's rope some Apples down here!